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We didn’t know they were inside”
testimony catalog number: 16337
rank: Staff Sergeant
unit: Infantry
area: Northern Gaza strip
period: 2014
There were 30-40 [Palestinian] guys in the first house at which we arrived. An opening was made [by our forces] in its outer wall with a breaching frame




it’s this device with explosives in it – and then we entered.

Was there a public warning for people to get out?
We didn’t know they were inside at that moment. Before that stage there had been all these leaflets (warning people to leave), and we saw them running away when we started entering [the Gaza Strip]. It was evident that the civilians understood that we were coming. At this point there was a massive deployment of backup forces, of the various relief forces. This specific house hadn’t been hit by any tank shells when we entered it. As far as I could tell this was due to a mistake – it was supposed to have been hit. Lucky for them it hadn’t. But in general, every house you were meant to enter was supposed to have been fired at beforehand, if not with a tank shell then with a tank-mounted 0.5 [machine gun]. This one was a house with a very, very large courtyard, and that’s where they were all gathered; there were signs indicating that they had packed quickly. I think they may have been under the impression that they would be able to stay. The field interrogator grabbed one of them and took him aside with the company commander; I have no idea what happened there, I suppose he tried to get as much information out of him as was possible. Ultimately, it was made clear to them that now they need to get the hell out of the place. They did.

Where to?
Further south, I guess. This absolutely did not concern me. At 04:00 AM, four or five women came over – they had put bags on a stick, like white flags. I don’t speak Arabic, but from their gesturing I gathered that they had come back – so they claimed – to take stuff they had forgotten in the house, stuff they considered critical. Obviously that didn’t happen.

What did you do at that point?
We fired toward their feet.
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This testimony can also be read in Hebrew

@Solomon2 This is indeed very dangerous. the enormous stress these soldiers have to go through killing innocent lives. Their conscious is killing them. What steps can be taken to prevent such thing from happening?
 
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Oh, good, you've finally started a separate thread.

Unfortunately, the information all comes from Breaking the Silence, an NGO that specializes in slander. None of its stories can ever be independently verified and attributed. That's not a fluke or exaggeration, that the BTS modus operandi. And they get a sizable subsidy from the guilt-wracked E.U. for it. (It's true, some Jews will do anything to make money!)

Check your sources more carefully, next time.
 
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@Solomon2 pehaps you didnt get the first notification. But never mind i am tagging you again. Perhaps you can shed some good light on the account of defenders of Israel

@solomon I am tagging you once again. Perhaps you can shed some good light on the accounts of defenders of Isreal

Oh, good, you've finally started a separate thread.

Unfortunately, the information all comes from Breaking the Silence, an NGO that specializes in slander. None of its stories can ever be independently verified and attributed. That's not a fluke or exaggeration, that the BTS modus operandi. And they get a sizable subsidy from the guilt-wracked E.U. for it. (It's true, some Jews will do anything to make money!)

Check your sources more carefully, next time.
Oh so anything that goes against Israel is Inauthentic ?
Will then the ministerial statement suffice ?

http://www.auphr.org/index.php/news/5460--israeli-ministers-threaten-violence-against-bds-activists
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/192309
 
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@Solomon2 pehaps you didnt get the first notification. But never mind i am tagging you again. Perhaps you can shed some good light on the account of defenders of Israel

@solomon I am tagging you once again. Perhaps you can shed some good light on the accounts of defenders of Isreal


Oh so anything that goes against Israel is Inauthentic ?
Will then the ministerial statement suffice ?

http://www.auphr.org/index.php/news/5460--israeli-ministers-threaten-violence-against-bds-activists
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/192309
Unfortunately, that is the effect of being overly sanctimonious in defending Israel. Intellectual honesty is totally lost.
 
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@Khafee @Moonlight

Unfortunately, that is the effect of being overly sanctimonious in defending Israel. Intellectual honesty is totally lost.
or is it the fear of repercussions or isolation from the community as a whole if crimes are acknowledged ?

ll there is to say about this video posted by a friend is, Watch it. A former Israeli soldier named Ido Gal Razon who was a hero of an Israeli operation in Gaza eight years ago called “Clear as Wine” testifies before a parliamentary committee about his PTSD.

“I killed for you, with these hands. You say terrorists with blood on their hands? I killed more than 40 people for you. ..

“[At night] he comes to me and says, ‘Why did you kill me?’…

“The data you present is rubbish.”

At 3:33, a voice says, “Ido let me speak” and his mother rises from the gallery to describe how her son’s mental injuries have torn the family apart.

This is sort of the Israeli version of American Sniper, a lot shorter. And yes, it’s about occupation. It’s about resistance. It’s about the price few are paying for war crimes.

- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/11/killed-israeli-veteran/#sthash.ChCWDG31.dpuf

 
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@Khafee @Moonlight


or is it the fear of repercussions or isolation from the community as a whole if crimes are acknowledged ?

ll there is to say about this video posted by a friend is, Watch it. A former Israeli soldier named Ido Gal Razon who was a hero of an Israeli operation in Gaza eight years ago called “Clear as Wine” testifies before a parliamentary committee about his PTSD.

“I killed for you, with these hands. You say terrorists with blood on their hands? I killed more than 40 people for you. ..

“[At night] he comes to me and says, ‘Why did you kill me?’…

“The data you present is rubbish.”

At 3:33, a voice says, “Ido let me speak” and his mother rises from the gallery to describe how her son’s mental injuries have torn the family apart.

This is sort of the Israeli version of American Sniper, a lot shorter. And yes, it’s about occupation. It’s about resistance. It’s about the price few are paying for war crimes.

- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/11/killed-israeli-veteran/#sthash.ChCWDG31.dpuf

@Solomon2 why is that soldier yelling at them ?
 
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Oh so anything that goes against Israel is Inauthentic ?
In theory, no. In practice today, probably.

Will then the ministerial statement suffice ?
This one does: http://www.timesofisrael.com/minister-boycott-movement-a-threat-to-the-whole-world/. BDS, by stooping to unsupported charges, fantasy, and inversion, is indeed a threat, and as I pointed out earlier when engaging in slander intended to promote mass murder it is a crime against humanity.
 
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In theory, no. In practice today, probably.

This one does: http://www.timesofisrael.com/minister-boycott-movement-a-threat-to-the-whole-world/. BDS, by stooping to unsupported charges, fantasy, and inversion, is indeed a threat, and as I pointed out earlier when engaging in slander intended to promote mass murder it is a crime against humanity.
But he admits it " he talked too much about it' why would he say such something ? out of fear of boycott at international event ? I may not know
 
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In theory, no. In practice today, probably.

This one does: http://www.timesofisrael.com/minister-boycott-movement-a-threat-to-the-whole-world/. BDS, by stooping to unsupported charges, fantasy, and inversion, is indeed a threat, and as I pointed out earlier when engaging in slander intended to promote mass murder it is a crime against humanity.
How much false rubbish can one utter....Do the zionists have something called consicence....humanity, shame, values.?..of course not...you will term anything that is against Israel is not authentic, what favor the terrorist illegal country..is authentic right?
 
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How much false rubbish can one utter....Do the zionists have something called consicence....humanity, shame, values.?..of course not...you will term anything that is against Israel is not authentic, what favor the terrorist illegal country..is authentic right?

Seemingly endless going by the Zion Brigade on this forum!
 
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@Khafee @Moonlight


or is it the fear of repercussions or isolation from the community as a whole if crimes are acknowledged ?

ll there is to say about this video posted by a friend is, Watch it. A former Israeli soldier named Ido Gal Razon who was a hero of an Israeli operation in Gaza eight years ago called “Clear as Wine” testifies before a parliamentary committee about his PTSD.

“I killed for you, with these hands. You say terrorists with blood on their hands? I killed more than 40 people for you. ..

“[At night] he comes to me and says, ‘Why did you kill me?’…

“The data you present is rubbish.”

At 3:33, a voice says, “Ido let me speak” and his mother rises from the gallery to describe how her son’s mental injuries have torn the family apart.

This is sort of the Israeli version of American Sniper, a lot shorter. And yes, it’s about occupation. It’s about resistance. It’s about the price few are paying for war crimes.

- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/11/killed-israeli-veteran/#sthash.ChCWDG31.dpuf


So where did he go? This guy is Israeli baboon. Snoop so low to defend Israel and its cruelty. Like we are deaf, blind, and retarded to understand the cruelty of Israelis.

Pa: Mujhe to is Ke avatar Bhi zehar lagta hai. :/.
 
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@Solomon2 why is that soldier yelling at them ?
PTSD

Snoop so low to defend Israel and its cruelty.
Soldiers don't ask questions. they carry out orders. He was doing what was required of him to defend his people.

Do the zionists have something called consicence....humanity, shame, values.?.
They do, but not for the goyim. According to Talmud non-jews are no better than animals

Sanhedrin 58b
[In other words, if a non-Jew kills a Jew, the non-Jew can be killed. Punching an Israelite is akin to assaulting God. (But killing a non-Jew is NOT like assaulting God.]
If a goy killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed a goy he is not responsible.

http://rense.com/general86/talmd.htm


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Of course, Talmudic contempt for the goyim "beasts" incites the harshest treatment of Palestinians by IDF forces. Gen. Rafael Eitan said of the 19,500 innocent Arab men, women, and children in the refugee camps of southern Lebanon (blown into oblivion by Israel's saturation bombing during its 1992 invasion) that they were "cockroaches in a bottle."
https://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/toprabbigentilesexisttoserve.htm
 
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@Solomon2 why is that soldier yelling at them ?
It is very simple, he and a lot of his squad got wounded in close quarter combat,
and the next day he got transferred out of the unit, and his new unit told him to get lost.
The same in a series of other units.
His mother had to pay for his medical treatment for the wounds he got in that combat.
He did not get any treatment for his PTSD, and no payment as a wounded veteran,
as apparently he should have gotten according to Israeli law.
He got wounded in 2007, but they offered him payment three Years back.
Anyone would be pissed.

He is obviously a PITA at the moment, and his family has thrown him out.
He might have been a PITA before the wound, and thats why he has been mistreated,
but clearly it is mistreatment of a veteran.

PTSD

Of course, Talmudic contempt for the goyim "beasts" incites the harshest treatment of Palestinians by IDF forces. Gen. Rafael Eitan said of the 19,500 innocent Arab men, women, and children in the refugee camps of southern Lebanon (blown into oblivion by Israel's saturation bombing during its 1992 invasion) that they were "cockroaches in a bottle.

"WHEN WE HAVE settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle.”—Rafael Eitan, April 14, 1983

Had nothing to do with the refugee camps.
The refugee camps were not "blown to oblivion" by saturation bombing.
They were attacked by falangist which massacred Palestinians,
after the assassination of their leader, with the IDF halted nearby.
Israeli leadership was criticized internally, and Sharon was forced to resign,
due to this incident.
 
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