Israeli soldiers fire on Al Jazeera correspondent

[Developereo]

They aint brutal enough yet.
I say Indian armed forces become brutal enough so that these separatist vermin think twice about demanding secession from India.

Indian army seems to prefer dealing with self-determination movements by gang raping women. Very brave of them. NOT.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Well i have googled that many a times and i consider ourselves much better than you in this regards. Atleast our citizen dont declare with sheer shamelessness that our cops hate reporters.!!

As for the buner coverage i think you should stop watching the Saas Baho dramas on Star Plus and some heed to Pakistani and international reporting. Not only Pakistani media (which brainless and sensationalist as your media) but no international news coverers who have been to buner/swat have ever said that there were civilian casualties, apart from the very few collateral damages in the very start!

Agreed, If there had been civilian casualties, the tribal people would have by know started to speak up. Our media is MashAllah very independent now, swat people have gone back, they would have by now started to tell or channels would have started to show bodies or demonstrations.

 

[gubbi]

Well i have googled that many a times and i consider ourselves much better than you in this regards. Atleast our citizen dont declare with sheer shamelessness that our cops hate reporters.!!

Geez Xeric, really? Can you quote sources where it says that Pakistan has a better Human Rights record than India? Of course you consider yourselves better than India in every aspect, no surprises, but reality differs my friend. About cops, no one says that, but not accepting reality is a trait common a little west of India.

As for the buner coverage i think you should stop watching the Saas Baho dramas on Star Plus and some heed to Pakistani and international reporting. Not only Pakistani media (which brainless and sensationalist as your media) but no international news coverers who have been to buner/swat have ever said that there were civilian casualties, apart from the very few collateral damages in the very start!

Not that I am a fan of those stupid shows, but that comment on Star Plus was uncalled for from a person of your caliber.
Reporters were not allowed when the Buner/Swat operations were in effect. The forces did their jobs and cleaned up the mess. How do you think the reporters will report what happened accurately then? Even then reports indicate massive civilian casualties, let me find some neutral reports and will post links asap. For now read this, if you trust NPR:
Pakistani Civilians Forced To Flee Swat Valley

Gotta go to work now.
Yaaaah!! Weekend!!!

 

[gubbi]

Indian army seems to prefer dealing with self-determination movements by gang raping women. Very brave of them. NOT.

Is that all you can come up with? Oh such incidents are not done by the armed forces personnel, but by some 'rogue elements/ non-state actors' in the Indian army out to malign the formidable reputation of our armed forces! What to do? You cannot control such elements now, can you?
Have you seen a video of an Indian soldier kicking a dead militant, whom he shot, from a shopping mall onto a street? I like that kind of brutality for sadist bas!ards who kill innocents in the name of religion. We need more shots like those! I know such things happen, if only we get to show more such reports. But hey, the reporters would be all over the army and accuse them of human rights violations and what not!

 

[Developereo]

Is that all you can come up with? Oh such incidents are not done by the armed forces personnel, but by some 'rogue elements/ non-state actors' in the Indian army out to malign the formidable reputation of our armed forces! What to do? You cannot control such elements now, can you?
Have you seen a video of an Indian soldier kicking a dead militant, whom he shot, from a shopping mall onto a street? I like that kind of brutality for sadist bas!ards who kill innocents in the name of religion. We need more shots like those! I know such things happen, if only we get to show more such reports. But hey, the reporters would be all over the army and accuse them of human rights violations and what not!

I can respond but I do not want to derail the thread.
Let's focus on the topic at hand.

 

[Xeric]

Geez Xeric, really? Can you quote sources where it says that Pakistan has a better Human Rights record than India? Of course you consider yourselves better than India in every aspect, no surprises, but reality differs my friend. About cops, no one says that, but not accepting reality is a trait common a little west of India.

Rhetorical rant?

Not that I am a fan of those stupid shows, but that comment on Star Plus was uncalled for from a person of your caliber.
Reporters were not allowed when the Buner/Swat operations were in effect. The forces did their jobs and cleaned up the mess. How do you think the reporters will report what happened accurately then? Even then reports indicate massive civilian casualties, let me find some neutral reports and will post links asap. For now read this, if you trust NPR:
Pakistani Civilians Forced To Flee Swat Valley

Gotta go to work now.
Yaaaah!! Weekend!!!

One, you dont know me so let's not talk of my caliber. i am 'sorry' if i shocked you!

Two, Again you are showing how naive are you. If it had been so simple to hide and clean the civilian casuities why dont your occupant forces in Kashmir use the same tactics to 'hide' and 'clean' the atrocities there?

BTW, where did the others go, i mean the relatives, the locals etc etc whose 'civilians' were killed by the Army? 95% of Dislocated People have gone back and we dont see a single report where someone has claimed that any of their relatives have gone missing in the operations? i mean how kiddish can you be.

Three, what a cheap link you have quoited! IDPS..lolzz... even Martians know that people have to 'fled' Swat because of the operations, so? And for the civilian causalities i have already very clearly mentioned that collateral damages have to be there in these kind of operations, it's not new but thankfully we have been able to keep the figure low, very low!

 

[gubbi]

Rhetorical rant?

Nope, truth bites.

One, you dont know me so let's not talk of my caliber. i am 'sorry' if i shocked you!

Aare bhaijaan, khamokhan khafa ho gaye ji, aap to. Of course I dont know you personally, but looking at your status of think-tank I presumed that you, atleast, would be a little less biased. Alas!

Two, Again you are showing how naive are you. If it had been so simple to hide and clean the civilian casuities why dont your occupant forces in Kashmir use the same tactics to 'hide' and 'clean' the atrocities there?

BTW, where did the others go, i mean the relatives, the locals etc etc whose 'civilians' were killed by the Army? 95% of Dislocated People have gone back and we dont see a single report where someone has claimed that any of their relatives have gone missing in the operations? i mean how kiddish can you be.

Three, what a cheap link you have quoited! IDPS..lolzz... even Martians know that people have to 'fled' Swat because of the operations, so? And for the civilian causalities i have already very clearly mentioned that collateral damages have to be there in these kind of operations, it's not new but thankfully we have been able to keep the figure low, very low!

By civilian casualties I also meant IDPs. My bad, should have clarified earlier. Yes, collateral damages -read civilian fatalities - do occur in operations of the magnitude undertaken by the Pak forces in Swat/Buner etc. There are reports of civilian bodies lying around after the operation, civilian deaths etc. I will get the links asap.
Doesnt mean its justified, but Indian forces are involved in similar - COIN - operations in Kashmir. Things happen.
And NPR (89.1FM in US, hear it on my car radio) is a very good source of news. A little left leaning with a favorable view of Pakistani efforts in WoT. Assumed you would know.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

 

[Canaan]

Do you really think they would miss if they fired real/rubber bullets?

well my friend that's what they claim when they kill someone, "oops it was a mistake.!"
even though they tend to do a lot of "mistake" head shots.

 

[Canaan]

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what the heck is the poor guy being shoot with? explosive ammo?

 

[gubbi]

Do you really think they would miss if they fired real/rubber bullets?

well my friend that's what they claim when they kill someone, "oops it was a mistake.!"
even though they tend to do a lot of "mistake" head shots.

Yes, I know what goes on in the territories. And I don't like it a bit. Whatever Israel does there is very wrong!! There are countless instances where IDF has targeted journalists, which is definitely a dastardly act. I really think with Obama in the white house, there's really some hope. Please dont equate your struggle with a religious jihad, for yours is a legitimate struggle for your usurped lands, not some stupid ideology. Also, India FYI was/is a very big supporter of Yasser Arafat and his PLO/PLA.
oh btw, I do like the cartoons by Carlos Latuff, especially his "I am Palestinian" series.

 

[graphican]

^^^^ LOL @ 1:36.
What an erroneous title!! That reporter is reporting about some protesters and the Israelis are firing tear gas shells to disperse the crowd. One lands near her and the press goes bonkers about Israelis shooting a reporter!!! That was a ******** tear gas shell, not a grenade!!!
Do you really think they would miss if they fired real/rubber bullets? But hey what can be said of such a mentality which creates such reports.

This shows why we were told forteen hunderd years ago that "Yahood and Hanood" will never be your friends. You are so lost in the love of Zionists that you are overlooking the fact that a women reporter has been hit by Soldiers in Uniform. Forget Israel/Palestine conflict, a tear-gas shell has been thrown at the reporter, the media personal who is just commenting on what is happening.. where are your democratic values?

There are few moments when Individual Indians prove themselves worthy of hatred and this is one of them.

 

[graphican]

If Indian forces were brutal enough, vermin like Geelani, Malik would have disappeared long ago. They aint brutal enough yet. I say Indian armed forces become brutal enough so that these separatist vermin think twice about demanding secession from India.

You are proving yourself too lame again. Those 70,000 Kashmiris were assassinated by Indian Army because of their love for them? Feel some shame before claiming your "whore mating" soldiers to carry values and not being "brutal enough".

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

How come the nusrani salibees never turn up in these threads? Or do they prefer to attempt to controvert items that may be vague and/or hard to prove without physical evidence? Just wondering...................

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

These orthodox jews are non-zionist but jews nevertheless.

So what would you expect from these zionazis when dealing with Muslims????