Israeli imprint in India’s ‘indigenous’ missile test

[KashifAsrar]

A news cast in todays (3rd december 2006 ) TOI.
Kashif

TALL CLAIM?


Israeli imprint in India’s ‘indigenous’ missile test


Rajat Pandit | TNN



New Delhi:In yet another indication of the deep but often covert strategic ties between New Delhi and Tel Aviv, it’s now clear that there was an Israeli imprint in the incipient ballistic missile defence (BMD) system tested by India last Monday.
The crucial long-range tracking radar (LRTR) used in the Indian ‘‘exo-atmospheric’’ BMD system, which ‘‘successfully intercepted’’ an incoming Prithvi missile on November 27, owes its origins to the Israeli Green Pine early-warning and fire control radar. India had imported two Green Pine radars, which constitute a crucial part of the Arrow-2 BMD system deployed by Israel to counter the threat of Iranian and other missiles, in a hush-hush manner in 2001-2002. ‘‘Other than the basic radar, which we modified to meet our requirements, all the other elements, hardware and software, are homegrown,’’ said DRDO chief controller R&D, V K Saraswat.
Since missile defence can take place both inside (endo) or outside (exo) the earth’s atmosphere, DRDO will now test an ‘‘endo-atmospheric interceptor’’ in the next four-five
months. The ‘‘exo-atmospheric’’ hypersonic interceptor missile tested on Monday destroyed the Prithvi missile at an altitude of 50-km.
The ‘‘endo-atmospheric interceptor’’, in turn, will shoot the ‘‘hostile’’ missiles much closer to earth with a 30-km range. ‘‘Our endo-atmospheric interceptor will be similar to the American Patriot-3 AMD system, which has a 15-km range,’’ said Saraswat.
Though the indigenous BMD system is still several years away from becoming operational, as reported by TOI earlier, it will be a ‘‘unique’’ two-tier system once it is ready.
The system will have a mix of the two types of interceptor missiles for a kill probability of 99.8%. ‘‘A couple of these missile batteries, for instance, should be able to protect Delhi,’’ said Saraswat. ‘‘We have made a very good beginning. At least half-a-dozen tests would be required over the next three years before the system can become ready,’’ he added.
DRDO claims to have modified the Green Pine radars, which can detect targets at ranges up to 500-km and can track them at speeds over 3,000 metre per second.
The modifications included making the radar capable of tracking intermediate range ballistic missiles.

 

[Adux]

The imprint is called Green Pine Radar, and that is were the buck stops.

 

[Cheetah786]

shooting a bullet with a bullet.
most of the American missile test incoming missiles had homing becons on them i wonder if the indians did the same or bulls eye
and i wonder if the israelies have this tech why they couldnt stop hizbullahs **** rockets.

 

[Adux]

shooting a bullet with a bullet.
most of the American missile test incoming missiles had homing becons on them i wonder if the indians did the same or bulls eye
and i wonder if the israelies have this tech why they couldnt stop hizbullahs **** rockets.

Please dont compare a home made rocket the hizbullahs used to that of a Anti ballistic missile shield syste,

 

[KashifAsrar]

But even the Americans do not have even 30% success rate with these missile intercepters. It is a fact. More over the tests conducted under highly known parameters and assumptions, far from practical battle situations. I am still not clear what is this up to?
Kashif

 

[KashifAsrar]

Please dont compare a home made rocket the hizbullahs used to that of a Anti ballistic missile shield syste,

By the way what is different? Altitude and range? But then the shield must work equally efficiently against all incoming missiles!
Kashif

 

[Adux]

But even the Americans do not have even 30% success rate with these missile intercepters. It is a fact. More over the tests conducted under highly known parameters and assumptions, far from practical battle situations. I am still not clear what is this up to?
Kashif

Let me put it this way, we fired one test missile it got shot down, 100%. Sucess rate, We got lucky or maybe everythin went to plan, The second or the third or after that doesnt have to be a success. Nothin is 100% in life.

Tests are conducted in known parameters, conditions and assumptions, otherwise it cant be called a test, right. Eventually they will try to bring to the real war like conditions as close as possible. Every machine of war is made that like that.

Can you dig upon 30% success rate, I have heard PAC-2 is 70% success rate and Arrow , PAC 3 in the 90%,
PAC 1 had a dissmal record in the first Gulf War

Adu

 

[Adux]

By the way what is different? Altitude and range? But then the shield must work equally efficiently against all incoming missiles!
Kashif

Altitude,

isnt it clear in the name itself ABM, Anti ballistic Missile system

 

[joey]

hahaha my goodness Rajat Pandit Strikes again, dont believe in anything he says.
yes ofcourse we used Green Pine radar but "it has been modified" by us , if you have that eyes uou'll see the modified one in the video only.

its funny to see how silently propaganda goes on.
i can give a dezen examples to prove how worthless writer is he, check this

With China possessing over two dozen nuclear submarines, apart from being the only force in Asia with submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) capabilities, the lack of similar capabilities obviously troubles the Indian Navy.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...s_still_a_long_way_off/articleshow/690097.cms

Have fun!

 

[KashifAsrar]

What this rajat Pandit is doing by the way. he gets coverage on almost daily basis in news papers such as TOI and HT? Why these newspaper let him do this false propaganda and contribute to this?
Kashif

 

[Adux]

What this rajat Pandit is doing by the way. he gets coverage on almost daily basis in news papers such as TOI and HT? Why these newspaper let him do this false propaganda and contribute to this?
Kashif

Hey kashiff

Dont know about HT,
Everyone I know uses TOI for covering vegetables, meat and maybe even as toilet paper. It is a newspaper run for advertisements. It is slightly better than the british tabloids.

Adu

 

[Cheetah786]

Altitude,

isnt it clear in the name itself ABM, Anti ballistic Missile system

My friend iam confused so could u please explain it to me.if i were to launch a missile at u a or a rocket for just argument sakes.this system will call the incoming missile or rocket and ask for identification papers .when its clear to it that it isnt a missile it will just realx and let it fall .or what please explain?
Americans have 90 to 70 % win Rate news to me or probably to most Americans for that matter.i belive in all the tests they have done one was a hit.every one of them have homing becons on them and they are modified to max for the interceptors.could u please also explain it to me how 1 hit equals 100% for india and 70 or 90% for americans.Americans actually televised there tests iam to just take Indians word for the hit.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.is there a link with video.?
Americans are spending some where like 10 billion or more on this and no success yet indians with ist missile strike i say hell of a job

 

[vnomad]

1 hit equals 100% for india and 70 or 90% for americans.

That particular test could either had a 100% or 0% success rate. The Ballistic Missile Defence shield will have an expected 99% hit rate when it becomes operational which isn't going to happen any time soon. The Americans are leagues ahead and that's not debatable.

 

[Cheetah786]

That particular test could either had a 100% or 0% success rate. The Ballistic Missile Defence shield will have an expected 99% hit rate when it becomes operational which isn't going to happen any time soon. The Americans are leagues ahead and that's not debatable.

The Americans are leagues ahead u just said.and after spending billions they are no where near 99 % kill rate how is india going to achive that.

Bush administration is going to ask Congress for funding to begin development of an “orbital battle station” that will be able to attack enemy missiles in their vulnerable boost phase.

Each Battle Station would be a fairly large satellite that carried a number, perhaps 40 to 50 infrared guided “kill vehicles.” On orders from the ground, the battle station would launch these kill vehicles, roughly about the size of a loaf of bread, at incoming missiles. Professor Everett Dolman of the School of Advanced Air and Space Studies at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama and the author of %%Amazon= 0714681970 Astropolitik - Classical Geopolitics in The Space Age%%, says that space based systems are “the only viable option for global defense against the most likely threats, such as an attack by Iran against Israel or by Pakistan against India.”

 

[joey]

Vnomad we are using a diff way of system which will have 99% probability against IRBM's.
and cheetah we have really durprised the US, showed them we dont lack talents if there is money poured.
Why not just wait and see what the further tests say?

Cheetah US faces topols thats a HUGE ARRAY OF DIFF.
To make a missile ot Topol/Minuteman standars by India or any country it needs minimum of 15 to 20 years of research and repeated testing.