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Why Indians like Israel so much i will never understand.

Jews hate Idol worshipper far more than they hate Muslims. Yet Indian's call Muslims intolerant and cheer for Jews.

What level of simping is this?
I guess they worship white nations only.. especially if they are anti pakistan or muslim.
 
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So it's a weird situation actually. Reason it's never a good thing to base your foreign policy on religion/ideology per se. Since you might often put your country's national interests on the backburner. :toast_sign:
Main players of OIC have realised this and have moved on. They have realised that ideologies are good in theory but may prove otherwise in geo-politics. Pakistan doesn’t see it yet to its folly.

Has it gained anything? None that is visible.

Few countries still think that they have achieved mighty big results by talking against Israel. They forget that Erdogan while criticising Israel plays a very smart game.
He keeps the trade going and makes fool of others.
 
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we are managing just fine

Who is this we ? I asked your opinion.

what conflict ?

Jammu and Kashmir was, is and shall forever remain an integral part of India !

do you disagree with that?

Fantastic, so immediately transfer those 700,000 military and paramilitary personnel from Kashmir to Delhi or crime-ridden UP state since you say there is no conflict in Kashmir.

But what I have done is write my humble solution for the Kashmir conflict in this thread :



1. Tell Mr. Hardeep Singh Puri that his claim of the government's big investment in public healthcare is duplicitous as there are many Indians who remain blind and die of cancers or kidney failures not because there is no cure but because they have no money. And a few of these cases are taken up by NGOs such as Ketto who raise crowdsourced funds for the treatment. The NGOs are doing what the government should be. Why does India not have free, universal healthcare ?

2. It is not just the Congress criticizing the Central Vista project it is also Yashwant Sinha, formerly a minister in the BJP central government. From this thread :
"People are dying of Covid but (Prime Minister Modi's) priority is the Central Vista project," tweeted Yashwant Sinha, the former minister of finance and external affairs. "Should we not be building hospitals instead? How much more price the nation must pay for electing a meglomaniac?"
 
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You were proudly talking of Indian culture taken to Israel. And I said that some of that "culture" is of culture-enforced socio-economic farmer suicides. Will those Indians who migrated to Israel go there and ask the Israelis to adopt this wonderful suicide culture of India ?

Let us talk about the bad and not just about the good.

Suicide culture of India ? you are too blind in your islamist anger against Indo-Israeli friendship that you are trembling your words with nonsense.

Israel has helped a lot in agriculture yield in India the farmers are the ones who benefitted the most out of it,since you care so much about farmers what is your view on it ?



"New Delhi: India and Israel are set to jointly develop new crop varieties and share post harvest technologies following the success of the 10-year-old Indo-Israeli Agriculture Project (IIAP) whose accomplishments include growing cherry tomatoes in Haryana, rejuvenating mango orchards in Maharashtra and demonstrating to Indian farmers the effectiveness of state-of-the-art irrigation technologies.
For a country like Israel where 60% of the area is desert, exporting high-value farm produce like mangoes and avocados is a matter of pride, whereas for India, among the largest food producers globally, the challenge is to counter the effects of erratic rainfall, raise productivity and use water efficiently.
So, it was with the objective of sharing best practices and technical knowledge from Israel that the agriculture cooperation project was launched in 2008. The implementing partners for the project are the National Horticulture Mission (NHM) under the agriculture ministry, MASHAV, Israel’s agency for international development cooperation, and Indian state governments which help set up centres of excellence as per their local needs.
“Our goal is to help the Indian farmer by exposing them to new technologies tailored to their local needs," said Dan Alluf, counsellor of science and agriculture at MASHAV, Delhi.
“There is a lot of focus on drip irrigation and how to design better farms by using canopy management and use of improved irrigation and fertigation technologies," Alluf said, adding, “Each centre showcases a range of greenhouses to farmers depending on their needs and capabilities. A unique focus is to teach farmers the language of irrigation - when to irrigate and by how much - to increase water use efficiency."
So far, 20 centres of excellence are functioning in different states and five more will be operational by next month. Notable among these are centres for vegetables in Karnal, Haryana, for mangoes in Dapoli and for citrus fruits in Nagpur, both in Maharashtra, and one for pomegranates in Bassi, Rajasthan.
Among the unique projects are a functional centre of excellence for bee-keeping in Haryana and a centre for dairy which is in the pipeline.
Following Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Israel in July last year, a new action plan for the years 2018-2020 envisages joint development of new crop varieties and sharing of post harvest technologies.
Further, the plan is to establish a partnership on water conservation that includes waste-water treatment and its reuse for agriculture, desalination, water utility reforms, and the cleaning of the Ganga and other rivers using advanced water technologies.
According to a MASHAV document, vegetable intervention in Haryana showed how crop productivity could be increased 5-10 times under protected cultivation of tomato, capsicum and cucumber, coupled with 65% decrease in water use and substantial reduction in fertiliser and pesticide costs.
Similarly, the mango orchard rejuvenation project in Dapoli resulted in a three-fold rise in productivity within three years.
“Every year, between 10,000 and 20,000 farmers visit each of these centres, and we hope the technologies we are showcasing will echo, carried forward by state governments and the private sector," said Alluf.
“One of the key ways to boost overall agricultural production is to implement better soil-water management techniques that would provide the arid and semi-arid lands better access to irrigation water, without actually increasing the stress on available water resources," said a NITI Aayog concept paper released in October last year.
However, data from the report showed that out of 160 million hectares of cultivable land in India, only about 65 million hectares or 41% is covered under irrigation. Also, just 8.6 million hectares are currently covered under micro-irrigation compared to a potential 69.5 million hectares.
“In states which are water-stressed such as Maharashtra, Karnataka, Telangana and Gujarat, adoption of drip irrigation has been faster but so far, adoption of these technologies among north Indian farmers has been lower due to easy water availability," said Siraj Hussain, former agriculture secretary and currently a fellow at the Delhi-based Indian Council for Research on International Economic Relations.
“The centre and state governments also need to push these technologies with more funding. Last year’s budget announced a Rs5,000 crore micro-irrigation fund, but it took almost a year to operationalise it," Hussain added."



Many, if not most, will be Hindus. I don't think there will be Muslims as suicide is considered haram in Islam ( the Islamic socio-economic system sees to it that this does not happen ). Some of the suicidees will be Sikhs ( in Punjab ). I don't think Christians will also do it, or maybe in Tamil Nadu they will. I don't know about Buddhists and Jains.

Telangana/Andhra Pradesh has some of the most farmer suicides and rural telangana has a lot of christians rather than having some fake care about farmers and downtrodden on pakistani forum,you should spend sometime in learning more about India,
 
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Comment section is full of Indians licking clean the asses of israel.

this is how 99% of Israelis feel about Indians inside:
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Ofc when Indians see that response they can’t even reply with arrogance, they got to respect their masters
 
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Who is this we ? I asked your opinion.



Fantastic, so immediately transfer those 700,000 military and paramilitary personnel from Kashmir to Delhi or crime-ridden UP state since you say there is no conflict in Kashmir.

But what I have done is write my humble solution for the Kashmir conflict in this thread :




1. Tell Mr. Hardeep Singh Puri that his claim of the government's big investment in public healthcare is duplicitous as there are many Indians who remain blind and die of cancers or kidney failures not because there is no cure but because they have no money. And a few of these cases are taken up by NGOs such as Ketto who raise crowdsourced funds for the treatment. The NGOs are doing what the government should be. Why does India not have free, universal healthcare ?

2. It is not just the Congress criticizing the Central Vista project it is also Yashwant Sinha, formerly a minister in the BJP central government. From this thread :

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Major crimes lowest in seven years: Uttar Pradesh government data



Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Comment section is full of Indians licking clean the asses of israel.

this is how 99% of Israelis feel about Indians inside:
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Ofc when Indians see that response they can’t even reply with arrogance, they got to respect their masters



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Suicide culture of India ? you are too blind in your islamist anger against Indo-Israeli friendship that you are trembling your words with nonsense.

Yes, suicide culture. I didn't mention the student suicides in India. Read some of that here. Or will you also call that as nonsense ?

Israel has helped a lot in agriculture yield in India the farmers are the ones who benefitted the most out of it,since you care so much about farmers what is your view on it ?


"New Delhi: India and Israel are set to jointly develop new crop varieties and share post harvest technologies following the success of the 10-year-old Indo-Israeli Agriculture Project (IIAP) whose accomplishments include growing cherry tomatoes in Haryana, rejuvenating mango orchards in Maharashtra and demonstrating to Indian farmers the effectiveness of state-of-the-art irrigation technologies.
For a country like Israel where 60% of the area is desert, exporting high-value farm produce like mangoes and avocados is a matter of pride, whereas for India, among the largest food producers globally, the challenge is to counter the effects of erratic rainfall, raise productivity and use water efficiently.
So, it was with the objective of sharing best practices and technical knowledge from Israel that the agriculture cooperation project was launched in 2008. The implementing partners for the project are the National Horticulture Mission (NHM) under the agriculture ministry, MASHAV, Israel’s agency for international development cooperation, and Indian state governments which help set up centres of excellence as per their local needs.
“Our goal is to help the Indian farmer by exposing them to new technologies tailored to their local needs," said Dan Alluf, counsellor of science and agriculture at MASHAV, Delhi.
“There is a lot of focus on drip irrigation and how to design better farms by using canopy management and use of improved irrigation and fertigation technologies," Alluf said, adding, “Each centre showcases a range of greenhouses to farmers depending on their needs and capabilities. A unique focus is to teach farmers the language of irrigation - when to irrigate and by how much - to increase water use efficiency."
So far, 20 centres of excellence are functioning in different states and five more will be operational by next month. Notable among these are centres for vegetables in Karnal, Haryana, for mangoes in Dapoli and for citrus fruits in Nagpur, both in Maharashtra, and one for pomegranates in Bassi, Rajasthan.
Among the unique projects are a functional centre of excellence for bee-keeping in Haryana and a centre for dairy which is in the pipeline.
Following Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Israel in July last year, a new action plan for the years 2018-2020 envisages joint development of new crop varieties and sharing of post harvest technologies.
Further, the plan is to establish a partnership on water conservation that includes waste-water treatment and its reuse for agriculture, desalination, water utility reforms, and the cleaning of the Ganga and other rivers using advanced water technologies.
According to a MASHAV document, vegetable intervention in Haryana showed how crop productivity could be increased 5-10 times under protected cultivation of tomato, capsicum and cucumber, coupled with 65% decrease in water use and substantial reduction in fertiliser and pesticide costs.
Similarly, the mango orchard rejuvenation project in Dapoli resulted in a three-fold rise in productivity within three years.
“Every year, between 10,000 and 20,000 farmers visit each of these centres, and we hope the technologies we are showcasing will echo, carried forward by state governments and the private sector," said Alluf.
“One of the key ways to boost overall agricultural production is to implement better soil-water management techniques that would provide the arid and semi-arid lands better access to irrigation water, without actually increasing the stress on available water resources," said a NITI Aayog concept paper released in October last year.
However, data from the report showed that out of 160 million hectares of cultivable land in India, only about 65 million hectares or 41% is covered under irrigation. Also, just 8.6 million hectares are currently covered under micro-irrigation compared to a potential 69.5 million hectares.
“In states which are water-stressed such as Maharashtra, Karnataka, Telangana and Gujarat, adoption of drip irrigation has been faster but so far, adoption of these technologies among north Indian farmers has been lower due to easy water availability," said Siraj Hussain, former agriculture secretary and currently a fellow at the Delhi-based Indian Council for Research on International Economic Relations.
“The centre and state governments also need to push these technologies with more funding. Last year’s budget announced a Rs5,000 crore micro-irrigation fund, but it took almost a year to operationalise it," Hussain added."



Firstly, farmer suicide is not a natural issue but happens because of wrong economic, social and political arrangement. So change those. What is preventing you ?

Secondly, bhaijaan, is growing cherry tomatoes, carrots and mangoes more important than the suiciding farmers who grow wheat and rice and jowar and sugarcane ? Yes, Israel is quite successful in progressive agriculture and even I am interested in agriculture and I often speak on PDF about the concepts of Urban Farming and Vertical Farming which can use collectivized farmer work, computer automation, hydroponics, LED lamps and the mulch and drip irrigation that the farmer in the vid uses and that the article mentions. Be more ambitious. Use what I described above and what Israel has achieved to remove the technical problems that Indian farmers have ( erratic rain, salination etc ) for every kind of crop.

Telangana has some of the most farmer suicides and rural telangana has a lot of christians rather than having some fake care about farmers and downtrodden on pakistani forum,you should spend sometime in learning more about India,

Right and what I have learned about India more is that in the last election in Maharashtra the BJP lost government because the farmers there were angry with it for various issue including the suicides. This is from 2014 :
Coming on the heels of a dozen reported farmer suicides within three days in Maharashtra’s Vidarbha region, BJP MP Sanjay Dhotre has kicked up a major controversy after he said that farmers should be “let to die” if they are incapable of or cannot afford farming.

“Let these farmers fend for themselves. If crops fail, they will figure out what to do. And if they dying, let them die,” said Mr. Dhotre, the parliamentarian from Akola.

Mr. Dhotre’s comments came at a farmers’ conference in his constituency on Sunday. Revenue Minister Eknath Khadse was on stage and was seen nodding at Mr. Dhotre’s remarks.

"Very few of us know about organic and Genetically Modified crop even as they have been discussed for decades. If this is our situation, imagine the plight of the poor farmers. I have many times spoken in despair…let the farmers die if they must. Those who can afford farming will do it, others will not do it,” Mr. Dhotre said.

Mr. Dhotre came under attack from various corners for “casual” and “insensitive” comments. However, he later clarified that his words were highlighted out of context.

"What I meant was that the various schemes launched for farmers are not doing anything to improve their lives but only making it worse for them. So if the farmers are on their own they might as well be better off. I did not mean it in an offensive manner when I said that if farmers are dying we should let them die. I said it in anger,” Mr. Dhotre explained.

Within a span of 72 hours, 12 farmers had committed suicide in the cotton belt of western Vidarbha, according to the Vidarbha Jan Andolan Samiti, a local farmer interest group.

Mr. Khadse had last month raked up a similar controversy in Akola when he remarked that though farmers had the money to pay their mobile bills they were often found reluctant in clearing their electricity bills. Sena chief Uddhav Thackeray had criticized Mr. Khadse saying his comments were “insensitive.”


Another article on this :
Between 2015 and 2018, 11,995 farmers killed themselves; figure was 6,268 in 2011-2014, according to RTI data.

Farmer suicides in Maharashtra have almost doubled under the current BJP-led government’s watch, compared to the previous Congress-NCP regime, according to data received under the Right to Information Act.

Between 2015 and 2018, 11,995 farmers killed themselves; the figure was 6,268 in the 2011-’14 period, the data show.

Agriculture experts and activists on Monday said the government’s policies and loan waivers have failed to improve the situation. Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis, however, said suicide cases, especially from Marathwada, were not properly reported under the Congress-led government.

Activist Jeetendra Ghadge had sought the data from the revenue department. “From January 1, 2015, to December 31, 2018, 11,995 farmers committed suicide in the state,” it replied, giving month-wise and division-wise figures.

“The prominent reasons noted for farmer suicides in the state of Maharashtra are debt, crop failure, inability to repay debt resulting in pressure from debtors, inability to procure enough money for daughter’s marriage or other religious activities, chronic severe illness, vices like alcohol addiction, gambling etc,” the reply said.

“Promises made by the government, including implementation of a life insurance scheme, were never kept,” Ghadge said on Monday. “The loan waiver did not change the plight of the farmers. Even claims by the victims’ families for compensation are largely rejected. Among the farmers, anger and frustration is high, as these superficial efforts are doing no good to them.”

Fadnavis did not contest the validity of the figures, but told the Mirror: “From 2011 to 2014, Marathwada figures were suppressed. They were not properly reported. Total suicides and those reported as farmer suicides (those verified by the government) also vary a lot.”

Loan waivers offer only temporary solutions, agricultural expert Dr Venkat Mayande said, adding that in the long term, crops should get better market value.

“An environment should be created that would allow the farmer to repay the loan and not fall into the debt trap. However, by giving a loan waiver, instead of farmers, the banks benefit more,” Mayande, a former vice-chancellor of the Dr Panjabrao Deshmukh Krishi Vidyapeeth, in Akola, said.

Satyashodhak Kashtakari Shetkari Sabha member Kishor Dhamale said the loan waiver programme was not even implemented properly.

“Many farmers were excluded from the process of loan waiver,” he said. “The waiver was declared late, no timely drought measures were taken. Many provisions in the new drought manual do not favour the families of those whose names have been added to the suicide list.”

The politics around cow slaughter and the fear it has generated have also affected the rural economy, Dhamale said. “The old cattle have become a financial burden on the farmer, forcing him to take the extreme step of ending his life.”


And read this post of mine on some of the socio-economic culture of India which leads to farmer suicides. Some of it is also mentioned in the article just above.

And if you don't like reality-writing Indians on this Pakistani forum you can exit the forum. :D Or you can stay and see that India is quite a non-harmonious society which needs change.

fake exaggerated Number,

Major crimes lowest in seven years: Uttar Pradesh government data

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

And then came the Hathras gangrape and murder case where the victim was a Dalit girl and the criminals were four Upper Caste men of I believe the same caste as the Chief Minister.

The Hathras police tried to shush up the matter but it went viral.

One Hindutvadi on this forum was trying to convince me that the crime was not a murder done by the four men but an accident done by the girl's brother. :lol:

And the Kerala journalist Siddique Kappan who was on the way to Hathras to report on the case is now under imprisonment by UP government and is being inhumanly treated.

INDIAPOSITIVE, are you Shri Sambit Patra ? :D
 
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Is that why the Israelis fought and died for the indians in the Gakwan Valley last year?






EXACTLY Which is why so many Israeli soldiers fought and died for india in the galwan Valley last year............. :azn:
Dont please dont. I enjoy these kind of discussions with Bhakts.

If looks closely bhakts act mad anyway.
Doing it.

We will put in more effort now considering your requests.😜
But why this love for Israel though ?

They hate idol worshipper, eats your holy cows and are circumcised .

You hate your muslim's for the same reason , then jump for joy for isreal for the same thing.

Why is it so wrong when muslims eat mummy Cow. But fine when israel does it?

Is mummy cow Only on sale for the highest bidder?
 
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Well, it's expected. India has forged close ties with Israel and agreed to award them huge contracts and cooperation to their companies. No reason for Israel to reject that, on the contrary it's a win-win for both countries. Especially considering the fact that Pakistan doesn't even recognise Israel(one of the very few countries on earth to do so, even Arab states, Turkey, Egypt etc recognise and have some sort of relations with Israel ) and its government and public have been brought up to hate anything Israeli anyway, so it's an issue that runs deeper due to religion and the very ultra religious nature of the country. Reason they are actually among the most anti Israeli country on planet earth despite Israel not posing any sort of threat to their country or even being anywhere close to their neighbourhood. In fact I'm sure most Israeli don't even know much about them since they don't figure much into their priority. So it's a weird situation actually. Reason it's never a good thing to base your foreign policy on religion/ideology per se. Since you might often put your country's national interests on the backburner. :toast_sign:
Really considering Israel has provided arms to india and attempted to strike Paks nuclear installations in the 90s?

That said most recently india used Israeli weapons against Pak just last year

Too bad they ended up roasting their own troops in fratricide.
That's almost the number of indians who fell into poverty due to covid.
That said I doubt any country in the neighbourhood has the sort of extreme poverty india does.
Even other nations slums are perhaps towns if we go by indian definition of a slum. Basically a shanty town similar to ones in sub saharan Africa.
 
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There are no slums in China anymore you low IQ brain fart. Chinas per capita GDP is higher than Turkeys and 6x higher then Slumindia/Rapistan.

Chinas life expectancy is equal to most Western world countries where as India its equal to sub saharan africa. Dont ever compare rapistan with China again. You keep quiet until you win a single gold medal at the olympics.
 
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Comment section is full of Indians licking clean the asses of israel.

this is how 99% of Israelis feel about Indians inside:
View attachment 743334
Ofc when Indians see that response they can’t even reply with arrogance, they got to respect their masters
It is very natural for Sanghis to lick Israeli boots because the Sanghi's entire world revolve around hating Muslims. Let them cheer for Israel as much as they can. It does not effect the real conflict on the ground. The real tragedy is not whom Indians support from across the sea, but Arabs abandoning the helpless Palestinians, some treachrous Arabs even complicit with Israel killing and abusing Palestinians. Despite, Gaza being cut-off from the rest of the world with no supply without Israeli inspection(both Israel and Egypt imposed strictest blockade on Gaza), they managed to ruin the sleep of millions of apathetic Israelis. Can you imagine, what Gazan could have done if they had covert support of Egypt? Conventionally Israel can not be defeated at present and near future for two reasons,

1. The world's foremost superpower United States give everything in it's arsenal to Israel including the most sophisticated weapons for free and will replace any loss Israel suffer in battlefield.

2. The entire Israeli Jewish population is trained for war and Israel maintain a war economy where the entire economy is geared for wining the war. This is not a normal society or economy like others. Now which neighboring Arab country can afford or willing to match this dedication for armed forces? None. they have their own concerns than maintaining a regimented society and a war economy. It is much easier to abandon the Palestinians to their fate.

So, what Palestinians need is unconventional means by which Palestinians can retaliate and inflict damage at the heart of Israel and can bypass the Israel's overwhelming numerical and technological superiority. Israel is a country who are unwilling to take casualties. Long distance rocket and missile is a good option. But these rockets need to be guided and fast. Current Palestinian rockets are slow and unguided, which are very less effective and mostly destroyed by Iron dome. If they had support from Egypt, then they could have build an effective guerrila force capable of bleeding Israel through thousand cuts and destroy the zionist arrogance and myth of invincibility.
 
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Nice fake news and made up statistics lol. Does it also say how India's economy is larger than China's? How you came first in the olympics and is a superpower? Lol Spare me the fake news you people live like its 2021BC, no toilets, drinking cow urine and living in filth.

You can't run away from being the dirtiest and most disgusting caste slave rapist society on earth. Your people live worse than dogs in slums and you come with fake news about other countries lol. Try to at least win a single gold medal this time? China is going for at least 30-40gold medals as per usual ok?

There are no slums in China anymore you low IQ brain fart.
Of course, there are none 731 han IQ wumao
It is all a Western conspiracy to defame People Republic of Hania

Chinas per capita GDP is higher than Turkeys and 6x higher then Slumindia/Rapistan.

Chinas life expectancy is equal to most Western world countries where as India its equal to sub saharan africa.
And also nearly 1.5 times lower homeless population than India
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Dont ever compare rapistan with China again.
Ok, will never compare Naking with People Republic of Hania


You keep quiet until you win a single gold medal at the olympics.
Sadly, many Indian feels olympic medals are being won due to doping, then again Hanese do have thing for drugs from days of opium wars

To prove wrong, Chinese succeeded in a sport where doping irelevant by defeating a nation like Afghnistan in cricket
https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/china-9-all-out-against-afghanistan-1558018

Congrats on the victory, now Indians will whine above Hanese victory is due to Chinese consumption of gutter oil and pangolin soup with a touch of bear bile
 
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