Israeli Father and baby die after being hit by stones from Palestinians

[westtowel]

Arabs threw rocks Wednesday at an Israeli car between Migdalim and Tapuach Junction in Samaria. A 20 month old girl was injured in the face.

Arabs Throw Rocks at 20 Month Old Baby - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News

 

[Patriot]

This is as low as one can get, those Palestinians were responsible for the death of two innocent people including a child. Anyone that harms a child is the lowest form of life there is--right up there with pedophiles. In any case if it were me I would have aimed the car at those low lives.

And why the disconnection when the Palestinian murder one another? The Palestinian authorities round up innocent Palestinian and either kill, beat, or imprison them for petty acts such as dancing at weddings. Why is no one weeping over such events? If the Palestinians kill and suppress their own people it's okay because well they are Muslim, if a Palestinian is kill by a Jew all hell breaks loose and we hear battle cries.

Let me guess you consider setellers innocent?Even Israel's biggest ally USA is Against settlement which is nothing short of 21st century colonization.If tomorrow Germans were to occupy Moscow with active protection from German Armed Forces would you also be sad if some Russian kills German civilians who are occupying Moscow?It is what it is.NO matter how much you sugar coat it we cannot deny that settlement is absolutely wrong .Wiki: The International Court of Justice and the international community say these settlements are illegal, and no government supports Israel's settlements.he ongoing settlement construction by Israel is frequently criticized as an obstacle to the peace process by the United Nations and third parties including the United Kingdom, the European Union, and the United States.I have similar stance against Drone Strikes by USA in FATA - So Long as Tribals continue to provide refuge to insurgents US is fully justified in drone attacks similarly all those who live in settlements are criminals and deserve to be treated as such.

 

[T-Rex]

Sky News: Israelis die after being hit by stones

An Israeli settler and his 18-month-old son were killed when the man lost control of his car after being hit by stones hurled by Palestinians.

'Preliminary results of the investigation lead us to conclude that the father was hit in the head by a stone, which made him lose control of the vehicle,' police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said on Sunday. The crash occurred on Friday.

The settler, 25-year-old Israeli-American Asher Palmer, and his son, Yonathan, lived in the Kiryat Arba settlement near Hebron in the southern West Bank.

Police had initially ruled out an attack against the car.

On the day of the crash, Palestinians had hurled stones at settlers' vehicles, particularly in the region where the settler and the child were killed.

There were also clashes between Palestinian demonstrators and police in several West Bank localities the day when the Palestinian leadership officially applied for UN membership for Palestine.

A Palestinian was killed and three others injured that day near Nablus in the northern West Bank by Israeli army fire in the wake of clashes between Palestinian villagers and Israeli settlers.

At the funeral of Palmer and his son on Sunday in the Jewish cemetery of Hebron where several hundred were gathered, Danny Dayan, a leader of the settlers, accused Israeli authorities of intentionally trying to cover up the cause of the deaths by presenting it as an accident.

They died because the car lost control. The car was hit by stones, they were not. So, it was an accident. On the other hand, the Palestinian children are deliberately being killed by the israeli bullets and bombs, almost everyday of the year.

Israeli Atrocities in Palestine

 

[ptldM3]

Let me guess you consider setellers innocent?Even Israel's biggest ally USA is Against settlement which is nothing short of 21st century colonization.If tomorrow Germans were to occupy Moscow with active protection from German Armed Forces would you also be sad if some Russian kills German civilians who are occupying Moscow?It is what it is.NO matter how much you sugar coat it we cannot deny that settlement is absolutely wrong .Wiki: The International Court of Justice and the international community say these settlements are illegal, and no government supports Israel's settlements.he ongoing settlement construction by Israel is frequently criticized as an obstacle to the peace process by the United Nations and third parties including the United Kingdom, the European Union, and the United States.I have similar stance against Drone Strikes by USA in FATA - So Long as Tribals continue to provide refuge to insurgents US is fully justified in drone attacks similarly all those who live in settlements are criminals and deserve to be treated as such.

Yes actually I would feel sad if German civilians were killed. There is no excuses for killing any civilians. Here is the problem--Palestinians are fools and I’m being nice with the word fools, they can not run a country let alone run a Mc Donald’s. If the Palestinian weren't so busy organizing anti Israel protests and draping children with fake AK-47's maybe Palestine wouldn't be such a failure? Perhaps the Palestinians should use there time and resources more wisely and productively? The Palestinians behave like a bunch of children, instead of focusing on how to better the Palestinian state and gaining some real political credibility they continue their charades. I don't think you will see anyone building settlements on Israeli land and do you know why? Because Israel is an organized government, and in an organized country such things do not happen. Palestine is a joke as is Hammas.

 

[ptldM3]

They died because the car lost control. The car was hit by stones, they were not. So, it was an accident. On the other hand, the Palestinian children are deliberately being killed by the israeli bullets and bombs, almost everyday of the year.

Israeli Atrocities in Palestine

I'm sure if some clowns threw stones at your family and as a result of that they died your attitude would be very different, lowering two caskets into the ground would change your mind I’m sure of it.

It's simple the perpetrators had the intent to hurt the occupants of the car, it is not difficult to see that a stone can directly kill a person or cause the car to lose control. The incident was definitely not in accident it was intentional what would be an accident is if a cricket ball inadvertently headed for the car but in this case it was no cricket ball and it was a deliberate act

 

[SyrianChristianPatriot]

Yes actually I would feel sad if German civilians were killed. There is no excuses for killing any civilians. Here is the problem--Palestinians are fools and I’m being nice with the word fools, they can not run a country let run a Mc Donald’s. If the Palestinian weren't so busy organizing anti Israel protests and draping children with fake AK-47's maybe Palestine wouldn't be such a failure? Perhaps the Palestinians should use there time and resources more wisely and productively? The Palestinians behave like a bunch of children, instead of focusing on how to better the Palestinian state and gaining some real political credibility they continue their charades. I don't think you will see anyone building settlements on Israeli land and do you know why? Because Israel is an organized government, and in an organized country such things do not happen. Palestine is a joke as is Hammas.

Lolz Palestine is no joke, it's like big thrill ride, like Uncle Joe said ''A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.''

 

[Patriot]

Yes actually I would feel sad if German civilians were killed. There is no excuses for killing any civilians. Here is the problem--Palestinians are fools and I’m being nice with the word fools, they can not run a country let run a Mc Donald’s. If the Palestinian weren't so busy organizing anti Israel protests and draping children with fake AK-47's maybe Palestine wouldn't be such a failure? Perhaps the Palestinians should use there time and resources more wisely and productively? The Palestinians behave like a bunch of children, instead of focusing on how to better the Palestinian state and gaining some real political credibility they continue their charades. I don't think you will see anyone building settlements on Israeli land and do you know why? Because Israel is an organized government, and in an organized country such things do not happen. Palestine is a joke as is Hammas.

OK i understand your point but they are acting wisely now and they went to UN and you noticed how US warned them?That's the problem .Dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.No body resorts to violence just for fun - They are pushed..Violence is the last resort.In any case, I am with you on this that no body can win war rebel style - They need proper Army but obviously they need a state before they can organize which they don't have so how do you expect them to have a proper government and resources when they don't even have any air space, sea lines or anything like that..It's one big ******* concentration camp.At the end of the day they problem will not go away unless Israel stops settlements and US allows UN to grant full nation status to Palestine.

 

[SyrianChristianPatriot]

Whether the Pals fail or succeed it will be big for them Abbas is certainly doing alot better then I excepted lol, Israeli father and baby die yea and fails to mention the Pal fathers and kids were shot in their beds by the Security forces.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Yes actually I would feel sad if German civilians were killed. There is no excuses for killing any civilians. Here is the problem--Palestinians are fools and I’m being nice with the word fools, they can not run a country let alone run a Mc Donald’s. If the Palestinian weren't so busy organizing anti Israel protests and draping children with fake AK-47's maybe Palestine wouldn't be such a failure? Perhaps the Palestinians should use there time and resources more wisely and productively? The Palestinians behave like a bunch of children, instead of focusing on how to better the Palestinian state and gaining some real political credibility they continue their charades. I don't think you will see anyone building settlements on Israeli land and do you know why? Because Israel is an organized government, and in an organized country such things do not happen. Palestine is a joke as is Hammas.

Much of what you say are wise and true.

But one thing bugs me is that the Palestinians are really just stateless people. The question is: What will happen to those people?
Maybe there are some possible solutions:
1. All Palestinians within Palestinian territories will become citizens of the State of Israel
Outcome: Israel will not do that since Arabs will outnumber Jews over time.
2. Have a Palestinian state.
Outcome: Theoretically sound. But then, the Israelis do not want a nation of Palestine.
3. Have all Palestinians migrate to neighboring Arab countries.
Outcome: Getting a citizenship in any Arab country is not easy. Even for Muslims from other countries, it is very difficult or rather almost impossible to get a let's say - a Saudi citizenship. Even the Palestinian refugees in Syria and Lebanon have been living there for several decades since the last Arab-Israeli war as Palestinian refugees. Even the ones born there don't become citizens of the host country. Many live in miserable conditions. I'd have to admit, the Arabs are using this for political purposes against Israel. This stance is really unfair to both the Palestinians and Israelis in my opinion.

So, what is the solution? What do the Israelis want? What does AIPAC want? What do the neighboring wealthy Arab states want? What will be the deliverables? These are the burning questions that need to be solved.

In my opinion, it doesn't matter if there is a Palestinian state or not. What matters are those Arabs living in Palestinian territories.

If the USA was truly committed to the Israel/Palestine issue, they could have resolved this many moons ago. And many unfortunate incidents like the topic of this thread would not have happened on both sides. The Arab states? Funnily, many of them are pro-American puppets for obvious reasons, what can they do?

The issue ultimately lies with the decision from the Americans themselves.

If no solution, the cycle will go on and on like a never ending hole.

 

[Anonymous user]

RIP to the deceased, its an unfortunate accident. My sympathy to goes out to the wife who lost both her love ones at the same time. Civilians caught up in politics.

 

[fd24]

I think nowadays people view the ethnic background or religion of any deceased or of victims. Sadly the thought of these people losing life or suffering becomes a secondary issue. So many issues round the world where i wish people would realize an innocent party or child is a sad loss and it really doesn't matter who it is.

 

[nirreich]

Much of what you say are wise and true.

But one thing bugs me is that the Palestinians are really just stateless people. The question is: What will happen to those people?
Maybe there are some possible solutions:
1. All Palestinians within Palestinian territories will become citizens of the State of Israel
Outcome: Israel will not do that since Arabs will outnumber Jews over time.
2. Have a Palestinian state.
Outcome: Theoretically sound. But then, the Israelis do not want a nation of Palestine.
3. Have all Palestinians migrate to neighboring Arab countries.
Outcome: Getting a citizenship in any Arab country is not easy. Even for Muslims from other countries, it is very difficult or rather almost impossible to get a let's say - a Saudi citizenship. Even the Palestinian refugees in Syria and Lebanon have been living there for several decades since the last Arab-Israeli war as Palestinian refugees. Even the ones born there don't become citizens of the host country. Many live in miserable conditions. I'd have to admit, the Arabs are using this for political purposes against Israel. This stance is really unfair to both the Palestinians and Israelis in my opinion.

So, what is the solution? What do the Israelis want? What does AIPAC want? What do the neighboring wealthy Arab states want? What will be the deliverables? These are the burning questions that need to be solved.

In my opinion, it doesn't matter if there is a Palestinian state or not. What matters are those Arabs living in Palestinian territories.

If the USA was truly committed to the Israel/Palestine issue, they could have resolved this many moons ago. And many unfortunate incidents like the topic of this thread would not have happened on both sides. The Arab states? Funnily, many of them are pro-American puppets for obvious reasons, what can they do?

The issue ultimately lies with the decision from the Americans themselves.

If no solution, the cycle will go on and on like a never ending hole.

Israel wants two simple things that the Palestinians can deliver but refuse to do that: to be accepted as the Jewish nation state in the Arab Middle East and to guarantee its security from any attempt to destroy it by its neighbours.

Very simple and elementary requests. Too bad the Palestinians refuse to give the above in exchange for establishing their own country in the West Bank and Gaza (which Israel already agreed and accepted).

 

[Nav]

I dnt feel any sadness or grief for the victimes, they r killing dozens of Palestinens every day...

 

[silko]

And when the occupied tried to oppose the occupiers they unleashed such genocide that makes the plight of palestinians look like picnic.

It WOULD be a different century event if in Turkey you could atleast talk about the genocide openly, but you can't. That means Turkey is fully behind an occupiers right to occupy - except when an evil jew does it, then its bad!

So the turks are extremely proud that they occupied other's land for century after century, but they are unhappy when its done to others, not even turks. There's a word for it, yes - RELIGIOUS HONESTY!

keep your hate for turks for yourself. you make it seem like every Turk is jumping of joy that someone just died.

comparing something that happened several centuries and decades ago in a Israel-Palestine conflict shows that you dont have an argument to say, rather rant and be butthurt.

what makes you think what ovarel said is what every Turk says?

i could come with counter arguments but wont.

what i have learned by studying some Indians in this forum is that if your country has done something wrong you have no right to speak about something that happens.

we are in a international forum, everyone can speak and opress their opinion.

SUCK IT UP!

 

[Bombay Dude]

keep your hate for turks for yourself. you make it seem like every Turk is jumping of joy that someone just died.

comparing something that happened several centuries and decades ago in a Israel-Palestine conflict shows that you dont have an argument to say, rather rant and be butthurt.

what makes you think what ovarel said is what every Turk says?

i could come with counter arguments but wont.

what i have learned by studying some Indians in this forum is that if your country has done something wrong you have no right to speak about something that happens.

we are in a international forum, everyone can speak and opress their opinion.

SUCK IT UP!

That's called Hypocrisy in a Civilized Language!