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A very interesting incident- What do members think about it?

There are two parts to this story.

1. The Israeli-Arab angle
2. The Male-female angle.

Israeli Court Calls Lying for Sex Rape
By ROBERT MACKEY

A married Arab man who lied to a Jewish woman to get her to sleep with him — telling her that he was a single Jew interested in a long-term relationship — was convicted of rape in a Jerusalem court on Tuesday for the consensual sex the couple engaged in two years ago.

As the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported, the man, Sammy Kashur, was sentenced to 18 months in prison by the Jerusalem District Court for “rape by deception.” The newspaper explained:

According to the indictment, Kashur met the complainant in September 2008 in downtown Jerusalem, presenting himself as a Jewish bachelor looking for a serious romantic relationship. The couple then went to a nearby building and had sex, after which Kashur left the building without waiting for the woman to get dressed.

When the woman found Kashur was not a Jew but an Arab, she filed a complaint that resulted in charges of rape and indecent assault.

The judge who handed down the ruling, Tzvi Segal, refused to consider a request from the Mr. Kashur’s lawyer that his client, who has been under house arrest for two years as a result of the complaint, perform community service instead of jail time, writing: “The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price — the sanctity of their bodies and souls.”

After the verdict Mr. Kashur, who is 30, said, “If I were Jewish they wouldn’t have even questioned me. That’s not called rape. I didn’t rape her in the forest and throw her away naked. She agreed to everything that happened.” He added, that when he met the woman, who was in her late 20s, outside a grocery store in Jerusalem, “I didn’t pretend. I said my name is Dudu because that’s how everybody knows me. My wife even calls me that.”

On Wednesday, Elkana Laist, who works as a public defender in Jerusalem, told Haaretz, “The test the court adopted is problematic, because it means that every time a man tells a woman he loves her, based on which she sleeps with him, he could be convicted of rape.”

In an interview with Al Jazeera on Wednesday, Merav Mor, a representative of the Association of Rape Crisis Centers in Israel, said “I really, really, don’t think there was any discrimination on any racial ground. I think this was a man giving false information.”

Given the demographic concerns that are often at the front of Israeli minds, sexual relationships between Jews and Arabs are actively discouraged in some parts of the country.

As the Israeli blogger and activist Dimi Reider noted last year, a public service announcement encouraging Israelis to prevent Jewish friends overseas from marrying non-Jews mournfully noted that “50 percent of young Diaspora Jews intermarry, and get lost.” The ad depicted young Jews who married non-Jews as being “lost.”

Last Setember, Noam Sheizaf, an Israeli journalist and blogger, discussed reports that the local government of Petah Tikva, a Tel Aviv suburb, had launched an initiative “to locate ‘and help’ Jewish girls that are meeting with Arabs.”

The following month, Sheera Frenkel of National Public Radio spent an evening on patrol with vigilantes from the Jewish settlement of Pisgat Ze’ev in Jerusalem who prowled the streets at night trying to spot and disrupt romantic encounters between Jewish women and Arab men.

One member of that patrol told Ms. Frenkel, “My heart hurts every time I see a Jewish girl with an Arab. It’s extremely upsetting. I asked myself: How did we get to this situation? How did we descend to this level? It is a serious step backwards, in our eyes.”

Israeli Court Calls Lying for Sex Rape - The Lede Blog - NYTimes.com
 
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It has to do both with race and gender.

Race in the sense that if the woman was Arab and the man was Israeli there probably would be no case.

Gender in the sense that if the genders were reversed (regardless of race), there would still be no case and vast majority of people would laugh it off. Furthermore, feminists have been trying to promote very wide definitions of rape (from what I understand) where something trivial or something that shouldn't be considered rape would be considered rape.

And something as trivial as this can't be considered a crime, let alone rape.
 
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It both has to do both with race and gender.

Race in the sense that if the woman was Arab and the man was Israeli there probably would be no case.

Gender in the sense that if the genders were reversed (regardless of race), there would still be no case and vast majority of people would laugh it off. Furthermore, feminists have been trying to promote very wide definitions of rape (from what I understand) where something trivial or something that shouldn't be considered rape would be considered rape.

And something as trivial as this can't be considered a crime, let alone rape.

I agree with both points. What it underscores is the religious and ethnic divide in Israel. I'm supposing that this is a lower court, and that if it is appealed in a higher court this ridiculous verdict will be reversed.
 
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I think its a BS decision. Half the men in the world will be charged with rape charges if they were expected to be totally honest while hooking up for a one night stand.

Lying about your religion, is not the same as lying about your identity. To assume so, means she'd be obliged to sleep with every Jew? I would've understood if he lied that hes her husband and she was blind and bought it.

But he just over represented himself to what she'd like and then she chose him and willingly slept with him. Imagine everytime a man says he loves a woman to get her into bed, he can be charged with rape? Ridiculous.

Stupid theocratic laws of Israel.
 
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This actually must be a first.. A Palestinian lying to be a Jew to get Laid.. Height of Desperation Ae.. ?

How stupid does the Israeli court get.. As if there is not enough bad press already for Israelis to deal with..

Stark Raving Madness.. If we go by the Israeli court definition/decision.. Many among us must be Serial Rapists.. Now thats food for thought..Hehh..
 
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In criminal law, rape is an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with another person without that person's consent.

He had her Consent so no Rape charges can be filed. Guess in Israel the Zionists operate differently.
 
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