Israel ‘upset’ with India’s ties with Palestine

[kaykay]

Another sourgrape comment from India. We can make as many as we want. There is nothing Ukraine can do about it. Same as HQ-9. As if Russian can stop us competing with their S-300 for Turkey missile bid which we won them fair and square which proves our HQ-9 is better than their S-300.

Can India make as many as you want? Indian can't. They need to beg and paid. That is the different from between China and India. Nobody can stop China and nothing they can do to stop our military advancement becos we make everything ourselves.

Our World class PL-45 beat US M-109 and British SPH for Kuwait bid and Saudi has purchase it too and the better news is PL-45 is second rated for PLA. We reserve the best PL-05 for PLA service. India has no world class military product that can export and be proud of.

aah the butthurt Chinese. Living in lala land assuming arms embargo on India. Sorry we are not China or North Korea. Talk when this happens not based on assumptions from rear. lol
And no so called 'Chinese' copied weapons are better only in CPC propaganda.

 

[Beast]

Wrong actually nowadays there more sellers in arms market than buyers , Countries are literally forced to close factories as they don't have any orders . Saudi Arabia , India etc are very few countries who have big orders and money to pay for them and compare them with countries supplying weapon systems.

As if Military industries control the government agency? Do US need to sell F-22 to balance it check book?

Turkey demand all TOT transfer for its SAM bidding in the end can't get a success deal signed becos all tender refuse full TOT that left Turkey need to build their own new LRSAM Air defense system.

Can India get hydrogen bomb technology or MIRV through open arm purchases? No.

aah the butthurt Chinese. Living in lala land assuming arms embargo on India. Sorry we are not China or North Korea. Talk when this happens not based on assumptions from rear. lol
And no so called 'Chinese' copied weapons are better only in CPC propaganda.

Its not propaganda. Its a reality can't accept by India that China surpass India in arm industrious by 1000miles. Go google more about China arm export for our SAM, SPH , UCAV , Military jet trainer like K-8.

 

[kaykay]

As if Military industries control the government agency? Do US need to sell F-22 to balance it check book?

Turkey demand all TOT transfer for its SAM bidding in the end can't get a success deal signed becos all tender refuse full TOT that left Turkey need to build their own new LRSAM Air defense system.

Can India get hydrogen bomb technology or MIRV through open arm purchases? No.


Its not propaganda. Its a reality can't accept by India that China surpass India in arm industrious by 1000miles. Go google more about China arm export for our SAM, SPH , UCAV , Military jet trainer like K-8.

See now you are talking about 'we surpass India in arm industries by 1000 miles'....oh definitely you have, in copying copycatted systems.

 

[Whazzup]

As if Military industries control the government agency? Do US need to sell F-22 to balance it check book?

There's always a balance to these things if US thinks F22 tech is too much advanced to be shared then they won't share it but same doesn't applies for F16 in that case there would be some lobby in govt plus Congress also wants to create jobs.

Turkey demand all TOT transfer for its SAM bidding in the end can't get a success deal signed becos all tender refuse full TOT that left Turkey need to build their own new LRSAM Air defense system.

I never said Seller has to play by our tunes if they think deal ain't favoring them they can backout from deal anytime but my point still stands there are more sellers than buyers and we definitely have more options than Israel . So no we don't need to bend over.

Can India get hydrogen bomb technology or MIRV through open arm purchases? No.

Russia shared a lot of nuke tech with us we may never know what money can or cannot buy. But yeah we do need to increase our indegenious capability which we are doing.

 

[Beast]

I never said Seller has to play by our tunes if they think deal ain't favoring them they can backout from deal anytime but my point still stands there are more sellers than buyers and we definitely have more options than Israel . So no we don't need to bend over.

What option do you have when your INS Kollkata class already gear everything towards Israel system from radar to LRSAM and point blank air defense? If you ripped out all Israel system and tinking you can justr easily swapped another one. You just living in a fantasy. You might as well buy another new class of destroyer which will push back IN modernise of destroyer by a decade.

 

[Whazzup]

What option do you have when your INS Kollkata class already gear everything towards Israel system from radar to LRSAM and point blank air defense? If you ripped out all Israel system and tinking you can justr easily swapped another one. You just living in a fantasy. You might as well buy another new class of destroyer which will push back IN modernise of destroyer by a decade.

Deals are signed for some particular number of systems b4 construction of ship starts these things are planned its not like we go to Israel just when we need to integrate these system onto our ships . For example if we're planning to make 3 ships then a contract will be signed with Israel for these systems b4 construction starts . Yes they can backout from deal won't do any good for their credibility in the market (I'm sure u're familiar with these things as they re same in every day business ).

 

[Beast]

Deals are signed for some particular number of systems b4 construction of ship starts these things are planned its not like we go to Israel just when we need to integrate these system onto our ships . For example if we're planning to make 3 ships then a contract will be signed with Israel for these systems b4 construction starts . Yes they can backout from deal won't do any good for their credibility in the market (I'm sure u're familiar with these things as they re same in every day business ).

French do the same thing to Russian and they seems care more for national security than business credibilities. Same as Israel, letting Palestine gaining a foothold is a threat to Israel nation at stake that even USD 50billion cant make them budge.

See now you are talking about 'we surpass India in arm industries by 1000 miles'....oh definitely you have, in copying copycatted systems.

At least we do not need to bend them over for others

Did you see Israel ask China not to recognised Palestine? You shall known China stance towards Palestine state is positive. Israel do not hold any triumph card over us since we made 99% weapon by ourselves. Instead they are eager to curry favour us. They are looking towards China as their next superpower.

While India do not have the leverage compare to China.

 

[Whazzup]

French do the same thing to Russian and they seems care more for national security than business credibilities. Same as Israel, letting Palestine gaining a foothold is a threat to Israel nation at stake that even USD 50billion cant make them budge.

Buddy u're giving me one example out so many successful deals I'm not denying that they back out from a deal but such thing will backfire on their credibility also. Anyhow we don't need to bend over to them like u said earlier this also goes for Israel .

 

[Jamy]

Mr.Mukherjee has to come out of the old useless coward Congress mindset and as president of India he should reflect the Modi goverment's stance on foreign relations instead of Congress mindset. It seems Modi has courageously taken calculated risk on Israel relationship against Palestine. As a matter of fact since from the beginning India has taken Paestine pro stance and supported Palestine cause, but what India got in return is simply nothing and not only that it is the worst affected nation in the world by the Muslim terrorism till to date. No Muslim country till to date condemned or did any back door diplomacy to course correct Pakistan against terrorism. On the other hand Israel has taught the world on how to live, survive and prosper when you are surrounded by enemies. Please remember that even though they are minuscule in numbers, Jew's are one of the most influential community in the world, even to influence and redefine the foreign policy of US state department. Clearly, Modi's stance will yield concrete results on foreign relations not only with Israel and US but with many other countries in the near future. If Mr.PranabMukherjee should not be helpful, he should not spoil the party at least.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Naughty article based purely on hearsay, written with an intention to create confusion domestically. India's proximity to Palestine, rest of the Arab world or Iran was never a concern to Israel. What changed suddenly?

 

[SR-91]

Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has told President Pranab Mukherjee that Israel expects India to change its stand towards Palestine.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (left) speaks to President Pranab Mukherjee during a banquet hosted by Israeli President Reuven Rivlin (right) at President House, Jerusalem on Wednesday.​

Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has expressed his unhappiness with India’s “lenience” towards Palestine.

In a state lunch hosted by Mr. Netanyahu at King David hotel in Jerusalem on Thursday, he told Pranab Mukherjee that Israel expects India to change its stand towards Palestine, according to a person who was present at the lunch.

“The Israelis want India to end its pro-Palestine policy. They expect a decisive shift in India’s approach towards the issue under (Prime Minister Narendra) Modi,” said the person, who did not want to be named.

“The Israelis are not happy that he (Mr. Mukherjee) went to and stayed overnight at Palestine. The Palestinians are not happy that we have good relationship with Israel. But overall, the president has re-emphasised India’s Israel-Palestine policy, that it’s hyphenated,” said the person.

Mr. Mukherjee skipped the Palestinian issue in his Knesset speech on Wednesday. The focus of his speech was India’s economic and technological cooperation with Israel, while in Palestine and Jordan he said New Delhi remained committed to the Palestinian cause.

Mr. Netanyahu, on the other side, slammed the “Islamist radicals”, and drew parallels between India and Israel as victims of Islamist terror in his Knesset speech. He referred to Mr. Modi as “dear friend” twice in his speech, and said he speaks to the Mr. Modi “quite often”.

But diplomatic sources said a paradigm shift in India’s foreign policy is practically impossible. “Israel is important for us, for economic and technological cooperation, for critical defence supplies. But we don’t have any ideological association with Israel,” a diplomat told The Hindu, who also requested anonymity.

Asked what India is getting in return for supporting Palestine from a realistic point of view, the official said: “Most countries in the world support the Palestinian statehood. That’s a principled position in international diplomacy. Changing that would malign our image. Also, it’s a sensitive issue at home. We can’t afford to alienate sections of our population over this issue.”


Israel ‘upset’ with India’s ties with Palestine - The Hindu

Where was India's concern, when they sold us weapons n secretly gave US tech to China. We were upset too but they continuously provided military tech to china.

These people have one God, MONEY.

We should have only one relationship with them, Buyer n Sellers.

 

[kaykay]

French do the same thing to Russian and they seems care more for national security than business credibilities. Same as Israel, letting Palestine gaining a foothold is a threat to Israel nation at stake that even USD 50billion cant make them budge.



At least we do not need to bend them over for others

Did you see Israel ask China not to recognised Palestine? You shall known China stance towards Palestine state is positive. Israel do not hold any triumph card over us since we made 99% weapon by ourselves. Instead they are eager to curry favour us. They are looking towards China as their next superpower.

While India do not have the leverage compare to China.

So now your butthurtness gone to a whole new level. After getting eggs on your faces on so called 'Indigenous system' here you are again bragging on a cooked up scenario which have nothing to do in real world. Well for you let me tell you something, India and Israel will do business in years to come and India will still support both Israel and Palestine( like it has done till now and still get all the weapon deals done). Nothing that Chinese can do except wishing all the cooked up scenarios but rest assure likes of you will end up getting eggs on faces. lolwa

 

[saurav]

Source is The Hindu. So no reason to believe this piece of junk.

 

[SrNair]

China support Palestine policy and Israel can't even make a noise Becos we China made everything ourselves and China is the world fourth largest weapon exporter.
More or less beat india myth of made in China weapon
India is biggest buyer of weapon


What india sell? Old fart?

India is a backward poor technology countries. From tools, weapon and system. All need import. Poor thing

Get a life moron .If you have money you can buy arms from anywhere .But this is not about arms and weapons technology .But political position .India is world largest democracy and so our policy and words has its own weight and power.But China is just other authoratarian state .World expects nothing different from you.

 

[Beast]

Get a life moron .If you have money you can buy arms from anywhere .But this is not about arms and weapons technology .But political position .India is world largest democracy and so our policy and words has its own weight and power.But China is just other authoratarian state .World expects nothing different from you.

That is just an emotional rant from you. You know there is some technology nor weapon system that money cant buy. And also when alliance will turn sour when one interest clash with others which forces you to choose. India do not have that luxury to avoid such problem.