Israel-Palestinian Conflict Resurgence 2021: Al-Aqsa attacks, riots, rockets, military clashes and Jerusalem conflict 2v

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Can you point us new followers to what you explained? Can you provide links to some posts? Thanks

There are so many threads talking about it and hard to pinpoint one..

But the main issues is they failed to understand how conventional warfare is fought and the underlaying dynamics and took things from a hyberbolic stand point. So you often run into completely watered down material posts.

Example:

Israel is a tiny Country plus it doesn't have strategic depth and it does have high quality armements but others in the region match them in the conventional armements arena but Israel's advantage comes down to F-35s which is not hard to take out of the skies for most state countries.

All the remaining things such as the drone department, chemical warfare, conventional hardware such as tanks etc etc they have no advantage and outmatched in some departments.

Once the F-35s is taken out of the skies there is really not much left for israel to shoot with and their window of opportunities completely dies there and once the conventional engagement occurs they will be on the retreating end of things.

As far as defensive systems go they can be hit and I mean all of their cities can be levelled from the outside. In order for them to win such conflict they have to literally dog it out which is highly unlikely you ain't gonna dog it out against more battle hardened foes and I am not even thinking about a united front against them or whatever but just in 1 versus 1 scenario battlefield.

 

[m52k85]

There are so many threads talking about it and hard to pinpoint one..

But the main issues is they failed to understand how conventional warfare is fought and the underlaying dynamics and took things from a hyberbolic stand point. So you often run into completely watered down material posts.

Example:

Israel is a tiny Country and it does have high quality armements but others in the region match them in the conventional armements arena but Israel's advantage comes down to F-35s which is not hard to take out of the skies for most state countries.

All the remaining things such as the drone department, chemical warfare, conventional hardware such as tanks etc etc they have no advantage and outmatched in some departments.

Once the F-35s is taken out of the skies there is really not much left for israel to shoot with and their window of victory opportunities completely dies there and once the conventional engagement occurs they will be on the retreating end of things.

As far as defensive systems go they can be hit and I mean all of their cities can be levelled from the outside. In order for them to win such conflict they have to literally dog it out which is highly unlikely you ain't gonna dog it out against more battle hardened foes and I am not even thinking about a united front against them or whatever but just in 1 versus 1 scenario battlefield.

Oh I see, I am surprised if this was not understood already, since it is openly stated by Israel that a war fought on their teritory will be impossible to win

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Oh I see, I am surprised if this was not understood already, since it is openly stated by Israel that a war fought on their teritory will be impossible to win

What alot of people don't understand is that battlefield and war doctrines constantly change from an era to an era. Example in ww2 tanks were the deciding factor but nowadays they are obsolote but you still use them for defensive not offensive because just throwing them in against conventional forces means you are just sending them to their death and then later on it was the aircraft carriers but nowadays they are obsolote and then we are in the airforce era which has almost become obsolote in the next 10-20 years it will still be used but not be able to grant any Win against anyone except none-state actors..

The main core remains conventional forces, anti-drone systems, drone capabilities, Anti-aircraft capabilties and defensive systems against the air and the ability to neutralize everything in the sky your eye spots and also you need BM and Hypersonic missiles plus Submarine killers and strong navy forces come handy but if you are based on a huge land like Eurasian continent it doesn't become overly necessary but useful nonetheless

 

[PakFactor]

There are so many threads talking about it and hard to pinpoint one..

But the main issues is they failed to understand how conventional warfare is fought and the underlaying dynamics and took things from a hyberbolic stand point. So you often run into completely watered down material posts.

Example:

Israel is a tiny Country plus it doesn't have strategic depth and it does have high quality armements but others in the region match them in the conventional armements arena but Israel's advantage comes down to F-35s which is not hard to take out of the skies for most state countries.

All the remaining things such as the drone department, chemical warfare, conventional hardware such as tanks etc etc they have no advantage and outmatched in some departments.

Once the F-35s is taken out of the skies there is really not much left for israel to shoot with and their window of opportunities completely dies there and once the conventional engagement occurs they will be on the retreating end of things.

As far as defensive systems go they can be hit and I mean all of their cities can be levelled from the outside. In order for them to win such conflict they have to literally dog it out which is highly unlikely you ain't gonna dog it out against more battle hardened foes and I am not even thinking about a united front against them or whatever but just in 1 versus 1 scenario battlefield.

Tell me how you’ll take the F-35 out? Unless theirs ways to detect stealth when it’s internal bays are loaded and noting on the external phylons. With there capability they essentially have a first shot capability even in conventional warfare.

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Tell me how you’ll take the F-35 out? Unless theirs ways to detect stealth when it’s internal bays are loaded and noting on the external phylons. With there capability they essentially have a first shot capability even in conventional warfare.

Despite being semi-stealth and 5th generation aircraft it is not a great aerial performer fighter and older versions could shoot it down and might even gain advantage on it since they have better aerial performance capabilities and this may sound news to you but it has been known for sometime..

Also It may be stealth but it is far from invisible soldiers from the ground can shoot it down if they lock unto it with their anti-craft missiles. S-400 is said to be capable of shooting it down and I would also assume that Hisar-O can do it. Turkey's new defensive systems and one of the reasons why they bought the S-400 in the first place to study it then they release the Hisar-O after that.

Hack Iran's 40-50 year old fighter jets could technically neutralize the F-35s..


The Iranians with their four-decade-old F-4s, F-5s and F-14s might not seem to have a chance against the Americans flying arguably the world’s most advanced fighter aircraft. But history, and recent testing show how Iranian pilots flying old planes could defeat Americans flying brand-new ones.


For one, the F-35, while new, isn’t necessarily a stellar aerial performer. In 2015 someone associated with the F-35 test effort leaked an official report explaining the stealth fighter’s limitations in air-to-air maneuvers with an F-16.

How Iran Could Shoot Down An F-35 Fighter In a War

Iran's F-5, despite its age, might still possesses the agility to gain the advantage over an F-35.

nationalinterest.org

for every dote there is and anti dote..

Similarly for stealth there is quantum radar or something similar like that exists.. It is far from invincible and in fact vulnerable but it is just overrated

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

So if we're to believe in Israeli claims, they claimed their Iron Dome intercepted 90% of the 4300 Palestinian rockets that was launched by the Palestinian resistance. That is 3,870 rockets that the Israelis are claiming to have intercepted. That means, only 430 rockets went through the Iron Dome missiles.

But wait a minute, Israel also claimed "5062 houses, cars & others were damaged". Now the question is how can 430 rockets cause all of that damage? The only explanation to the Israelis' logic is they were lying about the success rate of the Iron Dome.

We can also come to next point: How can anyone believe Israel's claim that they only lost 13 people if they lied about the success rate of the Iron Dome? Nobody should actually fall for anything that comes out of the Israeli government's mouthpieces. Everything they said about the war and its casualties is a complete lie.

Luckily, the truth aka facts and stats about the war cant be suppressed by ISrael's "free media":
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can you please repeat your fake Gaza war stats again?? how many rockets went through? Iron dome was left with iron holes ..lmaoo

 

[Trango Towers]

Everything is relative. In order to judge how Israel fights against insurgency u need to check:

How Russia was fighting in Chechnya.
How Pakistan was fighting in Bangladesh.
How US coalition was fighting in Mosul and Raqqa.
How Iran was fighting in Syria
......

How Germany fought the zionsist terrorist in ww2 right. Finish your sentences

 

[Titanium100]

So if we're to believe in Israeli claims, they claimed their Iron Dome intercepted 90% of the 4300 Palestinian rockets that was launched by the Palestinian resistance. That is 3,870 rockets that the Israelis are claiming to have intercepted. That means, only 430 rockets went through the Iron Dome missiles.

But wait a minute, Israel also claimed "5062 houses, cars & others were damaged". Now the question is how can 430 rockets cause all of that damage? The only explanation to the Israelis' logic is they were lying about the success of the Iron Dome.

We can also come to next point: How can anyone believe Israel's claim that they only lost 13 people if they lied about the success rate of the Iron Dome? Nobody should actually fall for anything that comes out of the Israeli government's mouthpieces. Everything they said about the war and its casualties is a complete lie.

Hamas knew exactly how to overwhelm it on before meaining their intelligence gathering is top-notch and some were saying it that the Iron dome was weak before this campaign and knew the ID was suspect

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1396687349740879873

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1396745612494872584

 

[terry5]

Isreali national anthem being played in Arab countries with respect and honour



כל עוד בלבב פנימה
י יהודי הומיה
ולפאֲתי מזרח קדימה
עין לציון צופייה -

עוד לא אבדה תקוותנו
התקווה בת שנות אלפיים
להיות עם חופשי בארצנו
ארץ ציון וירושלים


* As long as there is a Jewish soul * in the heart!

- * yearning forward, towards the east *

- * Our hope is not made yet *!

- * A thousand years dream on our land *

- * The land of Zion and Jerusalem *

- * Let those who are our enemy shudder *

- * Let all the inhabitants of (Egypt and Canaan *) tremble

- * Let the inhabitants of Babylon shudder *

- * To loom over their skies, panic and terror from us *

- * When we plant our spears in their chests *!

- * And we see their blood being shed *

* And their heads cut off *!

- * Then we will be God's chosen people where God willed *
I wonder why the world is not taught about the racist national anthem . How can a country get away with it ?

 

[Titanium100]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1396745612494872584

Exactly insiders knew whats up on before hand. I was always suspecting it and never bought into the hype as it has not proven itself in a conventional warfare before

Isreali national anthem being played

But there are no Babylonians, Canaanites or Ancient-Egyptians today.. With Egyptians they meant ancient egypt which means the song is talking about 3000 years ago in Musa, Dawud era etc etc, Canaanites were the once they took the land from when Allah gave them that land 3000 years ago but the same Allah also kicked them out of the land 1000 years later. Initially Allah(swt) gave them that land and also kicked them out when their time was up. Why were they wandering for 2000 years? Not trying to reclaim it but instead ran away and whatever came back are not real Jews or the real people of Musa..

The intention of your post fails tbh and I don't think any arab in their right minds would bother with a 3000 years ago narrations about nations that don't exist today..

The reaction to a 3000 years old anthem

 

[terry5]

Exactly insiders knew whats up on before hand. I was always suspecting it and never bought into the hype as it has not proven itself in a conventional warfare before



But there are no Babylonians, Canaanites or Ancient-Egyptians today.. With Egyptians they meant ancient egypt which means the song is talking about 3000 years ago in Musa, Dawud era etc etc, Canaanites were the once they took the land from when Allah gave them that land 3000 years ago but the same Allah also kicked them out of the land 1000 years later. Initially Allah(swt) gave them that land and also kicked them out when their time was up. Why was he wandering for 2000 years? Not trying to reclaim it but stand ranover and whatever came back are not real Jews or the real people of Musa..

The intention of your post falls out here to be fairly honest

Al-Aqsa preacher forbids chanting Israeli anthem
Videos appeared on social media showing some Emiratis chanting and playing the Israeli anthem
21.09.2020

RAMALLAH, Palestine
The preacher of Jerusalem’s Al-Aqsa Mosque, Sheikh Ekrima Sabri, has forbidden Muslims from chanting Israel’s national anthem.

In an interview with Anadolu Agency on Monday, Sabri said the Israeli anthem includes words that allege the Jewish ownership of all Palestine, including Jerusalem and Al-Aqsa Mosque compound.

He said those chanting the Israeli anthem in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are either "illiterates" or "Zionists".

Videos appeared on social media showing some Emiratis chanting and playing the Israeli anthem, in a move that came days after the UAE, Bahrain and Israel signed US-sponsored agreements to normalize their relations.

These videos were widely shared by Israeli military spokesman Avichay Adraee and other Israeli officials.

Sabri said those who chant the Israeli anthem are "sinners" as they "conceded the land of Muslims to non-Muslims”.




"'We have never imagined that the [Israeli] occupation anthem could be chanted in any Arab country,” he said.

Israel occupied East Jerusalem, in which Al-Aqsa Mosque is located, during the 1967 Middle East war.

Al-Aqsa preacher forbids chanting Israeli anthem

Videos appeared on social media showing some Emiratis chanting and playing the Israeli anthem - Anadolu Agency

www.aa.com.tr

 

[Titanium100]

Al-Aqsa preacher forbids chanting Israeli anthem
Videos appeared on social media showing some Emiratis chanting and playing the Israeli anthem
21.09.2020
RAMALLAH, Palestine
The preacher of Jerusalem’s Al-Aqsa Mosque, Sheikh Ekrima Sabri, has forbidden Muslims from chanting Israel’s national anthem.

In an interview with Anadolu Agency on Monday, Sabri said the Israeli anthem includes words that allege the Jewish ownership of all Palestine, including Jerusalem and Al-Aqsa Mosque compound.

He said those chanting the Israeli anthem in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are either "illiterates" or "Zionists".

Videos appeared on social media showing some Emiratis chanting and playing the Israeli anthem, in a move that came days after the UAE, Bahrain and Israel signed US-sponsored agreements to normalize their relations.

These videos were widely shared by Israeli military spokesman Avichay Adraee and other Israeli officials.

Sabri said those who chant the Israeli anthem are "sinners" as they "conceded the land of Muslims to non-Muslims”.




"'We have never imagined that the [Israeli] occupation anthem could be chanted in any Arab country,” he said.

Israel occupied East Jerusalem, in which Al-Aqsa Mosque is located, during the 1967 Middle East war.

Al-Aqsa preacher forbids chanting Israeli anthem

Videos appeared on social media showing some Emiratis chanting and playing the Israeli anthem - Anadolu Agency

www.aa.com.tr

Palestinians are irrational at times taking that stuff serious is ridiculous and they don't even understand which era the anthem is about there is no mention of arabs in the anthem the egyptians is meant by Pharoah and ancient egypt? Where are the babyloinians today or the people of canaanite? They need to chill out

 

[khansaheeb]

Palestinians are irrational at times taking that stuff serious is ridiculous and they don't even understand which era the anthem is about there is no mention of arabs in the anthem the egyptians is meant by Pharoah and ancient egypt? Where are the babyloinians today or the people of canaanite? They need to chill out

We know Denmark is Islamophobic so take your irrationality else where.