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Israel loses Turkey, gains Greece as strategic partner

Israel has finally moved on from its fractured relationship with Turkey - notwithstanding the impression conveyed by some US and Israeli circles that the damage is not beyond repair. This week, the Israeli Minister of Trade and Labor Minister, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer made last-ditch bid to save the relationship by initiating a meeting in Zurich with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutolu. It went badly and was hotly debated at the Israeli cabinet meeting Sunday, July 4. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said he thought it was worth a try, but most ministers said that given Ankara's harsh hostility, it should never have taken place.

Meanwhile, as Western and Turkish media outlets harped on Israel's loss of its only Muslim ally in the Middle East, Jerusalem was busy acquiring a new strategic partner: Greece, a NATO member like Turkey with plenty of Middle East interests, has shown interest in stepping into Turkey's shoes and investing in stronger military and intelligence ties.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly 450 reported on June 25 from sources in Athens and Jerusalem that this development was not so much planned in Jerusalem as initiated by Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou, who boasts many Jewish and Israeli friends and business contacts, some of whom hold high political and intelligence positions in Israel. He saw Athens' chance to slot into Ankara's place in Jerusalem and transform their present diplomatic, economic, military and intelligence ties into a thriving strategic alliance, that would carry the same advantages to both sides as did Israel's former relations with Turkey.

According to some sources, Papandreou also hopes this alliance will help ease some of his country's financial woes. But most of all, he is looking to Israel for help in speeding the upgrade of his armed forces and helping transform them into the Christian mainstay of NATO in the Balkans and southern Europe - in place of the Muslim Turkish army.

This notion was not the direct outcome of Israel's break with Turkey or the clash aboard the Turkish Mavi Marmara on May 31 between Israeli commandos and pro-Palestinian Turkish activists. It has been evolving for some time, first broached in the summer of 2008 when Papandreou allowed 100 Israeli F-15 and F-16 fighter-bombers to pass through Greek Mediterranean air space for practicing long flights and in-flight fueling.

The distance between Israel and Greece there and back is 1,900 kilometers, identical to the distance between Israel and Iran.
The Greek prime minister went out of his way to be of assistance, making available to the Israeli Air Force the crews and advanced S-300 PMU1interceptor missile batteries Athens purchased from Russia back in 2000. They were allowed to practice bombing sorties against these batteries, in case Moscow decided to sell them to Iran and Syria.

The severe financial crisis besetting Greece this year enhanced the friendly ties between Athens and Jerusalem. While European Union countries spent long months discussing whether to bail Greece out and save it from collapse (eventually granting a €110 billion package), Papandreou turned to Jewish financial titans in Europe and the United States for help to keep the Greek economy afloat.
 
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Israel loses Turkey, gains Greece as strategic partner

Israel has finally moved on from its fractured relationship with Turkey - notwithstanding the impression conveyed by some US and Israeli circles that the damage is not beyond repair. This week, the Israeli Minister of Trade and Labor Minister, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer made last-ditch bid to save the relationship by initiating a meeting in Zurich with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutolu. It went badly and was hotly debated at the Israeli cabinet meeting Sunday, July 4. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said he thought it was worth a try, but most ministers said that given Ankara's harsh hostility, it should never have taken place.

Meanwhile, as Western and Turkish media outlets harped on Israel's loss of its only Muslim ally in the Middle East, Jerusalem was busy acquiring a new strategic partner: Greece, a NATO member like Turkey with plenty of Middle East interests, has shown interest in stepping into Turkey's shoes and investing in stronger military and intelligence ties.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly 450 reported on June 25 from sources in Athens and Jerusalem that this development was not so much planned in Jerusalem as initiated by Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou, who boasts many Jewish and Israeli friends and business contacts, some of whom hold high political and intelligence positions in Israel. He saw Athens' chance to slot into Ankara's place in Jerusalem and transform their present diplomatic, economic, military and intelligence ties into a thriving strategic alliance, that would carry the same advantages to both sides as did Israel's former relations with Turkey.

According to some sources, Papandreou also hopes this alliance will help ease some of his country's financial woes. But most of all, he is looking to Israel for help in speeding the upgrade of his armed forces and helping transform them into the Christian mainstay of NATO in the Balkans and southern Europe - in place of the Muslim Turkish army.

This notion was not the direct outcome of Israel's break with Turkey or the clash aboard the Turkish Mavi Marmara on May 31 between Israeli commandos and pro-Palestinian Turkish activists. It has been evolving for some time, first broached in the summer of 2008 when Papandreou allowed 100 Israeli F-15 and F-16 fighter-bombers to pass through Greek Mediterranean air space for practicing long flights and in-flight fueling.

The distance between Israel and Greece there and back is 1,900 kilometers, identical to the distance between Israel and Iran.
The Greek prime minister went out of his way to be of assistance, making available to the Israeli Air Force the crews and advanced S-300 PMU1interceptor missile batteries Athens purchased from Russia back in 2000. They were allowed to practice bombing sorties against these batteries, in case Moscow decided to sell them to Iran and Syria.

The severe financial crisis besetting Greece this year enhanced the friendly ties between Athens and Jerusalem. While European Union countries spent long months discussing whether to bail Greece out and save it from collapse (eventually granting a €110 billion package), Papandreou turned to Jewish financial titans in Europe and the United States for help to keep the Greek economy afloat.

Have fun with economically unstable and destroyed Greece. We will look to continue expanding our defence industry.
 
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In Hindko we have a saying "Khotey gharat kitti, Truck maar ditta"

Israel is playing that "Khota."

cant type the whole story in english...Please some one translate.
 
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What Turkey as a friend was offering will never be offered by being friends with Greece, rather it will further harden the resolve of the Turks as well as give rise to enmity.

Hope Israel will not be that foolish.
 
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lol Turkish is a Mini Super power with access to up to 40 nuclear weapons reserved for NATO for turkey :P :police: Greece needs loan I guess Israel has cash (myth) and greece need money match made in heaven

Greece is out of NATO now??:undecided:
 
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I don't understand where the author from the article came up with this assumption as there were many Greek passengers on board and one of the ships was also Greek if I'm not mistaken. In fact, Greece canceled a military exercise that was happening right then as well.

Plus there are stories of Greeks suing Israel for the flotilla disaster.

Greek flotilla passengers suing Israel’s Navy | JTA - Jewish & Israel News
 
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Greece a bankrupt nation can never offer the economic viability which Turkey offers. offcource Turkish politicians are not stupid and they are playing their cards wisely keeping all options on table. Since the Israeli-Greek releationship is taking shape since 2008, the current Turkish-Israeli releation crisis could also be silent blackmail of Israel by Turkish politicians for taking side with Greece. Considering it comes at a time when Turkish economy is booming and Greek economy is in shambles.
 
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Wow good news. Greece as an ally. :D

Israel: I want you to be our ally
Greece: Ok. We want 10 billion dollars

Great Greek sucking up begins.
 
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GUYS come to reality. Greece economy is two times bigger than Pakistan and its per capita income is 10 times bigger than India. It's GDP iS 60 per of turkey


Now compare it with India Pakistan view. India has 7 times bigger economy than India. But in which area Pakistan loose it guts
 
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Yes so is us economy and did you know what happened?:coffee:Mass bankruptcy more than 20 major banks filed for bankruptcy, 3 out of 5 families are totally bankrupt. And more over us had to ask for loan which China lent it. So lets not comparing greece with Pakistan or India their consumption and way of spending is different..
 
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I don't understand how is Greece's "bankruptcy" even relevant to the concerned topic?

Firstly, Greece has a major debt crisis but it is far from being bankrupt. Secondly, even if Greece is undergoing a major economic crisis, does it mean it cannot be a valuable strategic partner? If some of you still beg to differ, then explain how USA classifies Pakistan as a "major non-NATO ally".
 
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even if Greece is undergoing a major economic crisis, does it mean it cannot be a valuable strategic partner?

There is absolutely nothing that Greece can offer Israel that it doesn't already get from the other Western countries. Greece is firmly part of Europe -- those friends Israel already has a dime-a-dozen.

Turkey is a bridge to other regional countries in the Middle East, CAR and the non-Arab Muslim world. Greece is none of those things.
 
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So now the US will have to bail out (fund through billions in annual aid that is) both Israel and Greece?
 
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