Israel is ready to share intelligence on Iran with Saudi Arabia – IDF chief

[El Sidd]

There is no Myth. It is straight forward. Iran and it's proxy wars, be it Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, or Syria.

Well Iranians straight out deny that.

I don't think they will lie. They are very religious.

 

[El Sidd]

and "Taqiyya" ?

I don't believe much of the religious Voodoo.

Today everything can be traced and comes documented.

So evidences will be good.

Innocent till proven guilty is my logic.

 

[BATMAN]

https://www.rt.com/news/397765-saudi-mecca-missile-intercept/

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1135826/saudi-arabia

 

[The SC]

Well Iranians straight out deny that.

I don't think they will lie. They are very religious.

What about their presence there.. isn't that a fact?
You should look at it from the context of an Iranian official who blatantly said : we now control 4 Arab capitals!?

 

[El Sidd]

What about their presence there.. isn't that a fact?
You should look at it from the context of an Iranian official who blatantly said : we now control 4 Arab capitals!?

Well corruption and foreign funded governments are just dime a dozen in the region.

 

[The SC]

Oh really?
What is your proof about our support for Yemeni army?

BTW even if we have supported them , it is not yet happened , in fact we have supported oppressed Muslims against mass murderers and thugs of UAE/KSA. Although due to land/sea blockade on Yemen, no one can supply them except for their own industries that had old China-Soviet made missiles. Scuds specifically and Chinese C-801 anti ship missiles.

Again, even if we were supplying them, you cannot make it an excuse for your mass murder in Yemen and don't forget your meddling in Syria and Iraq. You supplied rebels and terrorists, however Al-Qaeda in Yemen still owes it's strength to your coalition.

Oppressed Muslims, you mean oppressed Shi'a.. who are far from being oppressed.. that is an alibi to cover a lie..

 

[Muhammed45]

Oppressed Muslims, you mean oppressed Shi'a.. who are far from being oppressed.. that is an alibi to cover a lie..

Spare me from your own sectarianism.

Oppressed Shia or Sunni has no difference to me. We are not controlling 4 Arab capitals, we have saved 4 Arab capitals from KSA-made ISIS terrorists.

Your own country in Sinai has suffered a lot from that phenomenon. Hopefully EGY gets rid of terrorists asap.

 

[The SC]

Well corruption and foreign funded governments are just dime a dozen in the region.

That is true somehow, but in the case of Iran, it gets through mainly with the help of Shi'a minorities in those countries, most of the time the alibi is to defend them against oppression by Sunnis.. which in fact lacks any credibility.. so even lies are allowed in this covert but open war through proxies..

Spare me from your own sectarianism.

Oppressed Shia or Sunni has no difference to me. We are not controlling 4 Arab capitals, we have saved 4 Arab capitals from KSA-made ISIS terrorists.

Your own country in Sinai has suffered a lot from that phenomenon. Hopefully EGY gets rid of terrorists asap.

Spare us from you mental Zig-Zag please..

OT: where are all you adamant arguments that KSA works hand in hand with Usrael.. did you read the OP article..

BTW I am Egyptian too if you want..

 

[El Sidd]

That is true somehow, but in the case of Iran, it gets through mainly with the help of Shi'a minorities in those countries, most of the time the alibi is to defend them against oppression by Sunnis.. which in fact lacks any credibility.. so even lying is allowed in this covert but open war through proxies..

If the locals are that stupid to fall for Voodoo logic than blame them first.

We cannot understand your problems. You have tribal issues. We can only deal with the governments.

Iranian simply get away by playing secularist tone outside while being totally different at home.

We just wish you all had transparent democracies so we could understand your problems.

Till then we are happy dealing with recognized governments.

 

[The SC]

If the locals are that stupid to fall for Voodoo logic than blame them first.

We cannot understand your problems. You have tribal issues. We can only deal with the governments.

Iranian simply get away by playing secularist tone outside while being totally different at home.

We just wish you all had transparent democracies so we could understand your problems.

Till then we are happy dealing with recognized governments.

I am sorry you didn't get my point.. this is done through governments.. furthermore there are no complete transparent democracies in the world.. it is just the level of opacity that differs from here to there..But you are right on how Iran plays the game..

 

[El Sidd]

I am sorry you didn't get my point.. this is done through governments// furthermore there are no complete transparent democracies in the world.. it is just the level of opacity that differs from here to there..

Yeah but it's confusing.

The people are being bombarded by new information. Each more controversial than the previous. Its hard to decide.

Iran has no doubt meddled in our business as well. We had to shoot down their drone and drive out their proxies.

But we have a functioning democracy. It needs hardcore evidence

 

[The SC]

Yeah but it's confusing.

The people are being bombarded by new information. Each more controversial than the previous. Its hard to decide.

Iran has no doubt meddled in our business as well. We had to shoot down their drone and drive out their proxies.

But we have a functioning democracy. It needs hardcore evidence

Hardcore evidence has been provided many times and in all cases From KSA to Pakistan and beyond.. but in reality no one in the region wants to go to war, everyone is working on developing their economies..and don't want to jeopardize the development.. Iran is in a unique position..protected by the vital to world economy "Hormuz strait" which gives it an important leverage against its potential foes (apart from Pakistan).. It takes advantage of it to the maximum..and I am not sure if it will continue its proxy wars after the sanctions are lifted, because then it will have as much to lose as the others in the region, while for the time being, it does not have that much to lose, although it is trying to improve its economy as it can..

 

[El Sidd]

Hardcore evidence has been provided many times and in all cases From KSA to Pakistan and beyond.. but in reality no one in the region wants to go to war, everyone is working on developing their economies..and don't want to jeopardize the development.. Iran is in a unique position..protected by the vital to world economy "Hormuz strait" which gives it an important leverage against its potential foes (apart from Pakistan).. It takes advantage of it to the maximum..and I am not sure if it will continue its proxy wars after the sanctions are lifted, because then it will have as much to lose as the others in the region, while for the time being, it does not have that much to lose, although it is trying to improve its economy as it can..

Well with the amount of unemployed youth rising in the region. It is likely to see much more instability if the massive reforms are not undertaken to help the masses.

The biggest cancer in conservative societies is unemployment. Iran enjoys it's luxurious position because it plays on other people's strength.

Straits of Hormuz ensures Iran has a big advantage but diplomacy still is a big tool.

 

[The SC]

Well with the amount of unemployed youth rising in the region. It is likely to see much more instability if the massive reforms are not undertaken to help the masses.

The biggest cancer in conservative societies is unemployment. Iran enjoys it's luxurious position because it plays on other people's strength.

Straits of Hormuz ensures Iran has a big advantage but diplomacy still is a big tool.

If you follow the news about the Saudi and Egyptian projects _in fact all of the MENA projects_ you can see that priority is given to job creation.. even Iran has been concentrating on that for a while..
Well, the Strait of Hormuz is both a military and diplomatic card in the hands of Iran.. So it plays it in both fields..

 

[El Sidd]

If you follow the news about the Saudi and Egyptian projects _in fact all of the MENA projects_ you can see that priority is given to job creation.. even Iran has been concentrating on that for a while..
Well, the Strait of Hormuz is both a military and diplomatic card in the hands of Iran.. So it plays it in both fields..

Vision 2030 will either make Arabia or break it