Israel helped India turn around Kargil war

[salman nedian]

P.S. At the moment more muslims are being killed in Pakistan than in India. Far, far more.

This is due to foreign aggression in Afghanistan. India has a long Muslim killing History.

 

[Flintlock]

This is due to foreign aggression in Afghanistan. India has a long Muslim killing History.

Does it matter? The state of Pakistan has failed to protect muslims.

 

[salman nedian]

Does it matter? The state of Pakistan has failed to protect muslims.

The State of Pakistan is trying to save Muslims unfortunately she is surrounded by anti Muslim powers.and Pakistan is a Muslim and extremist country but India is a secular and democratic country why your Country failed to protect your citizen in mass killings?

 

[Vinod2070]

This is due to foreign aggression in Afghanistan. India has a long Muslim killing History.

India has never invaded any Muslim country. It is the Arabs and Afghans who invaded India. They destroyed our cities, our temples, ruled our land, indulged in wholesale massacres, took millions of people as slaves, the list is endless.

What has India done in return? It is having one of the largest Muslim populations in the world, who are equal citizen in all respects. They go on to become Presidents, the most likes heroes, artists, scientists, trade union leaders, MPs, richest Industialists of the land, large numbers in all Governement services including Police, judiciary et al.

But one has to have an open mind to see all this. And India is not doing it to impress anyone. We do it because we are a genuine secular democracy.

 

[asaad-ul-islam]

India has never invaded any Muslim country. It is the Arabs and Afghans who invaded India. They destroyed our cities, our temples, ruled our land, indulged in wholesale massacres, took millions of people as slaves, the list is endless.

What India? There was no India, but just many different kingdoms and states. India has invaded Hyderabad and East pakistan even if it was to help bengalies.

But one has to have an open mind to see all this. And India is not doing it to impress anyone. We do it because we are a genuine secular democracy.

yea right, they were trying pretty hard to get into OIC, but thankfully pakistan was there to stop it.

 

[Neo]

Ok ladies, back to topic again!: Israel helped India turn around Kargil war

Thanks!
Neo

 

[Vinod2070]

What India? There was no India, but just many different kingdoms and states. India has invaded Hyderabad and East pakistan even if it was to help bengalies.

Very convenient for you to define what was or was not India. What did the Arabs/Afghans attack then? Even if there were multiple states how does it justify those barbaric attacks and taking over other people's lands and massacres and destruction of their places of worship?

Why is it wrong for USA to attack Iraq or any other Islamic country? There are multiple Arab/Islamic states, so it should be OK as per your twisted logic.

Hyderabad had just 10% Muslim population and they came there as invaders/aggressors. How was it Muslim? The majority people of Hyderabad wanted to merge with India. It was only the Nizam and his violent Razakars (who carried out various Zulms on people in Hyderabad) who didn't want it and threatened India with genocide of the Hindu population. But they caved in very fast before the Indian army. You can be sure of that.

East Pakistan or Bangladesh is anyway a different story.

yea right, they were trying pretty hard to get into OIC, but thankfully pakistan was there to stop it.

It was a foolish idea of some idiotic politicians. India is not a Muslim country to join OIC. And OIC is definitely not a prestigious organization by any stretch of the imagination!

Indians have no interest whatsoever in that funny organization. No one gives a damn to what it says including nations who are it's members. You should know that by now!

 

[Vinod2070]

Ok ladies, back to topic again!: Israel helped India turn around Kargil war

Thanks!
Neo

May be they did help. It could have hastened the process but the result was never in doubt.

 

[asaad-ul-islam]

Hyderabad had just 10% Muslim population. How was it Muslim?

You seem to be denying history here, the nizam was hoping for hyderabad to be independent. india sent a squad to go take care of the problem in 1948.

It was a follish idea of some idiotic politicians. India is not a Muslim country to join OIC. And OIC is definitely not a prestigious organization by any stretch of the imagination

it was still the idea of politicians who had same thoughts as you do, "muslims destroyed india, but in return we housed them and gave them rights, gosh we're so great, we're the world's largest democracy!" besides, russia is not a muslim country, but still has observer status in OIC.

 

[mujahideen]

Very convenient for you to define what was or was not India. What did the Arabs/Afghans attack then? Even if there were multiple states how does it justify those barbaric attacks and taking over other people's lands and massacres and destruction of their places of worship?
Why is it wrong for USA to attack Iraq or any other Islamic country? There are multiple Arab/Islamic states, so it should be OK as per your twisted logic.
Hyderabad had just 10% Muslim population. How was it Muslim.
East Pakistan or Bangladesh is anyway a different story.
It was a follish idea of some idiotic politicians. India is not a Muslim country to join OIC. And OIC is definitely not a prestigious organization by any stretch of the imagination!

Ok I will take your word that fine Hyderabad should of gone to India. I have no problem but then give us Kashmir. It was decided that the royal states such as Jundagh, Hyderabad and Kashmir, it was up to their royal family to decide which country they want to join. Fine Kashmir accepted to join India but Hyderabad and Jundagh joined us, so either give us Kashmir based on the population or give us Hyderabad and Jundagh based on the Indian Independence Act.

 

[asaad-ul-islam]

i'm apologize neo, for my reply post, this will be the last one.

 

[Vinod2070]

Ok I will take your word that fine Hyderabad should of gone to India. I have no problem but then give us Kashmir. It was decided that the royal states such as Jundagh, Hyderabad and Kashmir, it was up to their royal family to decide which country they want to join. Fine Kashmir accepted to join India but Hyderabad and Jundagh joined us, so either give us Kashmir based on the population or give us Hyderabad and Jundagh based on the Indian Independence Act.

My last off-topic post on this thread, as I have been asked a direct question.

This option of leaving Hyderabad and Junagarh to India and taking Kashmir was offered to Mr. Jinnah. He refused it point blank for some reasons which are not hard to imagine.

This resulted in this whole mess ultimately.

I am sorry but I have no powers to swap my country's land. So won't be able to help you here.

 

[mujahideen]

My last off-topic post on this thread, as I have been asked a direct question.

This option of leaving Hyderabad and Junagarh to India and taking Kashmir was offered to Mr. Jinnah. He refused it point blank for some reasons which are not hard to imagine.

This resulted in this whole mess ultimately.

I am sorry but I have no powers to swap my country's land. So won't be able to help you here.

I don know what you have been reading about swaping and and the option given to Quaid-I-Azam. He was never given this option and I have read in many book and heard from various people that in fact he wanted to use Jundagh as a chip which he can trade to get Kashmir. The fact is if the trade was offered he would of accepted it.

 

[salman nedian]

Vinod,
At least adopt a single criteria what did the Congress want? The decision of States based on population or Rulers? India adopted what was suitable to them. You considered population in Hyderabad and in Kashmir you considered “Raja”. Hypocrisy and Land grabbing is the history of India.

Sorry Neo but I can’t stop my self on such pathetic posts.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Originally Posted by salman nedian
In Pakistan there are no mass killings of minorities unlike India where not only Muslims but even Christians and Sikhs are not safe.

First of all you have to have minorities to do any killing. You got rid of them. Good for you actually.

Yes, none of the minorities are safe in India. That is why they hold high posts in India. I can't say the same about the countries which claim that they are doing a yeoman's service to their practically no existent minorities!!

Guess what?

An Italian Christian domiciled in India is the boss woman. Many Moslems have been Presidents and now a Vice President, a Sikh is the PM, a Sikh was the Chief of the Army, a Sikh runs Indian economy, a Jew organised the defeat of Pakistan in 1971 and yet they are all not safe!!

Funny, what?

They hold the reins of power and yet you feel they are not safe!

Guess, what even I do not feel I am not safe and I can't say I am the majority!!

It is only you who feels that you are not safe!!

With a mindset as yours, you will not be safe even in Heaven!