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Israel has lost both morally, politically and militarily in its war against Gaza

What about trap? :lol:

There are passage ways which can be used to blow up IDF terrorists. Or simply private buildings being prepared after spotting Israeli attempts to advance deserted buildings which IDF turns into combat zones.

So if "civilian" buildings are prepared with passageways and IEDs, they become military targets.
Since a reasonable way of avoiding troops to be killed, is to blow the buildings to smithereens,
even before inspection, you are just legitimizing blowing most of Gaza to pieces.
 
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Israel could of destroyed Gaza a 100 times over
war has changed since WW2
in WW2 you could literally firebomb a city with intend in causing mass civilian causalities and effecting their moral.

instead of taking out one building they could take the whole block with impunity.
 
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@A.P. Richelieu

Shutup you moron crusader. I already responded to you and destroyed your argument.

You may very well think so, just been too busy with other things.
I see that your refutals were not very successful.
Isn't it very childish to request someone to not respond on a forum?

You are proven a jester with the first response...
 
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You may very well think so, just been too busy with other things.
I see that your refutals were not very successful.
Isn't it very childish to request someone to not respond on a forum?

You are proven a jester with the first response...

LOL, get lost you crusader moron. I destroyed you and you never responded to any of my posts but presented another strawman argument. I told you a million times I don't tolerate crusader idiots and their obvious grudge against us.

Go get a life, you live in a beautiful country and should be meeting people and getting married as soon as you can. Maybe your wife can turn you into a normal person instead of being a sadist crusader spending his personal time bashing Palestinians.
 
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You're employing meaningless rhetoric. I am responding to your meaningless assertions with factual evidence by human rights organizations documenting the pattern of civilian casualtiiles in Gaza. It shows that civilians are being exclusively targeted by Israel. No question about it.

Friend...fact is that when a powerful entity fight with less powerful entity...any kind of loss to powerful entity is always perceived as a win for less powerful entity.In this context, of course Palestine and Hamas able to instill fear among the Israeli forces....But did you ever imagined what is the cost of this win?....So why do not you try to seat down on the table and start finding a solution in a peaceful way...It is very easy to tell that you will fight till eternity...But think about loss of life that is happening mostly for Palestine people...Do you think your generation of people need better life?

What i have understood from @Mosamania is that his point is war is not a solutiion neither eliminating Israel from world is a solution too...If Paletsine people and leadership can come up to discussion table with some meaningful solution where both Israel and Palestine will be gaining some ground and loosing some, then may be Aran states will help in this process...They are not technically against Palestine not they support Israel but they are against the ways and process by which Hamas has hijacked the entire Palestine issue as if Hamas is the leader with whom everyone should speak for Palestine issue..
 
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Go get a life, you live in a beautiful country and should be meeting people and getting married as soon as you can. Maybe your wife can turn you into a normal person instead of being a sadist crusader spending his personal time bashing Palestinians.

I actually feel sorry for Palestinians that they have to suffer the combined policies of Hamas and Bibi.
If I am bashing something, then it is bad policies that get people killed.
I was against this conflict from the beginning, due to the predictable outcome.
 
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Israel did not invade Gaza because the rockets were fired, but they accused Hamas of killing three Israelis. This allegation also fell flat as Hamas found not be involved in Israelis killing.

a senior hamas commander now accepts that hamas killed those kids. u still think so ?
 
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Disinformation.



It is all over the press - with comments. Check "The Young Turks"


MEMRI: Hamas Leadership Acknowledges Responsibility for Kidnapping Three Israeli Teens

Transcript:

Saleh Al-'Arouri of the Hamas leadership delivered an address on behalf of Khaled Mash'al at the conference of the International Union of Muslim Scholars in Istanbul on August 20, 2014. In it he said: "Our goal was to ignite an intifada in the West Bank and Jerusalem, as well as within the 1948 borders... Your brothers in the Al-Qassam Brigades carried out this operation to support their imprisoned brothers, who were on a hunger strike... The mujahideen captured these settlers in order to have a swap deal." The address aired on Al-Jazeera TV.

Following are excerpts:

Moderator: The address of the great mujahid Abu al-Waleed, Khaled Mash'al, who leads this resistance along with his brothers in the land of steadfastness, will be delivered on his behalf by the mujahid Saleh Al-'Arouri.

Say: "Allah Akbar."

Audience: Allah Akbar.

Moderator: Say: "Allah Akbar."

Audience: Allah Akbar.

Moderator: Say: "Allah Akbar."

Audience: Allah Akbar.

[...]

Saleh Al-'Arouri: In all honesty, we in the Islamic resistance movement did not intend to start a large-scale war at this time. We know that the enemy was not ready to start a large-scale war either. But Allah decided that this large-scale war would rage, in order to achieve things in accordance with the will of Allah.

We wanted Gaza to serve as a strategic pillar, and to continue to amass strength in order to support the resistance all over Palestine. We wanted to activate the resistance throughout the land of Palestine: in the West Bank and in Jerusalem.

[...]

Our goal was to ignite an intifada in the West Bank and Jerusalem, as well as within the 1948 borders. The activity of the people has broadened to include all the occupied land, reaching its peak in the heroic operation, carried out by the Al-Qassam Brigades, in which three settlers were captured in Hebron.

There has been a lot of confusion regarding this operation. Some said that this was a conspiracy of the occupation. That's not true. Your brothers in the Al-Qassam Brigades carried out this operation to support their imprisoned brothers, who were on a hunger strike. The occupation wanted us to watch them die and to do nothing. The mujahideen captured these settlers in order to have a swap deal.

Then Israel wanted to strike a harsh blow to the resistance in the West Bank and Gaza, in order to shock the mujahideen and deter them from engaging in Jihad against the occupation. So it began to bombard Gaza, and to conduct arrests and wreak devastation in the West Bank.

But in these bombings, they killed six mujahideen. Thus, the fighting escalated. The mujahideen retaliated with missile strikes in the heart of the occupying entity. They were forced to escalate the fighting, and thus, an all-out war began.

[...]

Today, negotiations are being held in order to force the enemy to sign an agreement, in which it would acknowledge the victory of the resistance, and which would lead to the lifting of the Gaza blockade, to the rebuilding of Gaza, and to their recognition of the legitimacy of the resistance and its arms as the protector of this people and of its rights.
 
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It is all over the press - with comments. Check "The Young Turks"


MEMRI: Hamas Leadership Acknowledges Responsibility for Kidnapping Three Israeli Teens

Transcript:

Saleh Al-'Arouri of the Hamas leadership delivered an address on behalf of Khaled Mash'al at the conference of the International Union of Muslim Scholars in Istanbul on August 20, 2014. In it he said: "Our goal was to ignite an intifada in the West Bank and Jerusalem, as well as within the 1948 borders... Your brothers in the Al-Qassam Brigades carried out this operation to support their imprisoned brothers, who were on a hunger strike... The mujahideen captured these settlers in order to have a swap deal." The address aired on Al-Jazeera TV.

Following are excerpts:

Moderator: The address of the great mujahid Abu al-Waleed, Khaled Mash'al, who leads this resistance along with his brothers in the land of steadfastness, will be delivered on his behalf by the mujahid Saleh Al-'Arouri.

Say: "Allah Akbar."

Audience: Allah Akbar.

Moderator: Say: "Allah Akbar."

Audience: Allah Akbar.

Moderator: Say: "Allah Akbar."

Audience: Allah Akbar.

[...]

Saleh Al-'Arouri: In all honesty, we in the Islamic resistance movement did not intend to start a large-scale war at this time. We know that the enemy was not ready to start a large-scale war either. But Allah decided that this large-scale war would rage, in order to achieve things in accordance with the will of Allah.

We wanted Gaza to serve as a strategic pillar, and to continue to amass strength in order to support the resistance all over Palestine. We wanted to activate the resistance throughout the land of Palestine: in the West Bank and in Jerusalem.

[...]

Our goal was to ignite an intifada in the West Bank and Jerusalem, as well as within the 1948 borders. The activity of the people has broadened to include all the occupied land, reaching its peak in the heroic operation, carried out by the Al-Qassam Brigades, in which three settlers were captured in Hebron.

There has been a lot of confusion regarding this operation. Some said that this was a conspiracy of the occupation. That's not true. Your brothers in the Al-Qassam Brigades carried out this operation to support their imprisoned brothers, who were on a hunger strike. The occupation wanted us to watch them die and to do nothing. The mujahideen captured these settlers in order to have a swap deal.

Then Israel wanted to strike a harsh blow to the resistance in the West Bank and Gaza, in order to shock the mujahideen and deter them from engaging in Jihad against the occupation. So it began to bombard Gaza, and to conduct arrests and wreak devastation in the West Bank.

But in these bombings, they killed six mujahideen. Thus, the fighting escalated. The mujahideen retaliated with missile strikes in the heart of the occupying entity. They were forced to escalate the fighting, and thus, an all-out war began.

[...]

Today, negotiations are being held in order to force the enemy to sign an agreement, in which it would acknowledge the victory of the resistance, and which would lead to the lifting of the Gaza blockade, to the rebuilding of Gaza, and to their recognition of the legitimacy of the resistance and its arms as the protector of this people and of its rights.
Disinformation. Hamas leadership is in hiding and neither have time nor reasons to glorify their crimes (if committed at all). There is no harm if you use common sense.
 
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Disinformation. Hamas leadership is in hiding and neither have time nor reasons to glorify their crimes (if committed at all). There is no harm if you use common sense.

The Hamas Leader in question lives in Turkey, after a deal realeasing him from an Israeli jail.
Common sense says there is no need to hide in Turkey, and maybe Hamas leadership are
not the sharpest knives in the drawer. They certainly glorify the criminal rockets,
and brag about their methods creating multiple military targets amongst civilians.
 
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