Israel claims Iran sent Libya's Haftar anti-tank arms

[Falcon29]

Israel claims Iran sent Libya's Haftar anti-tank arms

Israel's UN envoy has alleged Iran sent Libyan renegade general Khalifa Haftar advanced anti-tank munitions during his push to seize Tripoli from the internationally-recognized government.

"In November 2019, imagery surfaced of four Iranian “Dehlaviyeh” anti-tank guided missile systems being employed by militias associated with General Haftar’s forces in Libya," Danny Danon charged in a letter May 8 to the Security Council and Secretary-General Antonio Guterres.

"The presence of this advanced Iranian-manufactured system on Libyan soil is another grave violation of Security Council resolution 2231 (2015), as set forth in article 6 (b) of annex B, which prevents ‘the supply, sale, or transfer of arms or related materiel from Iran,’" he added.

Danon was referring to UN-imposed arms embargo on Libya.

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https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-claims-iran-sent-libyas-haftar-anti-tank-arms/1848229

 

[xenon54 out]

There were rumors of Damascus joining the party too and with Russia already in it would be surprising if Iran wasnt involved.

Well, Haftars problem is not tanks but something else anyways.

 

[Falcon29]

There were rumors of Damascus joining the party too and with Russia already in it would be surprising if Iran wasnt involved.

Well, Haftars problem is not tanks but something else anyways.

Yeah it seems like after LNA officials met with officials in Damascus that they discussed Iranian/Russian support and Iran seems to be sending these anti-tank missiles and some drones according to certain reports. Iran is trying to get back at Turkey it appears. Russia/Iran also trying to make it difficult for Turkey in Libya to pressure them to withdraw from Syria but it doesn't seem to be working.

 

[bsruzm]

They recently published a fake photo of Iranian kamikazee drone in Libya but that doesn't mean Iran is not sending stuff to Libya. We wll hear more about it.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Iran joined the Arabization campaign

 

[HAIDER]

There were rumors of Damascus joining the party too and with Russia already in it would be surprising if Iran wasnt involved.

Well, Haftars problem is not tanks but something else anyways.

Desert war is game of air superiority or long range guided precision strike weapon. It's cat and mouse game, where everything is visible for all parties on the ground. When US stand behind the Tripoli then its useless for Haftar to resist. UAE,France and Saudis are wasting there money pushing a dead horse.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Desert war is game of air superiority or long range guided precision strike weapon. It's cat and mouse game, where everything is visible for all parties on the ground. When US stand behind the Tripoli then its useless for Haftar to resist. UAE,France and Saudis are wasting there money pushing a dead horse.

KSA is not involved in Libya. Can you provide a single evidence of any KSA involvement on the ground? In fact KSA has been talking with both parties. Al-Sarraj and Haftar both visited KSA last year and held talks with King Salman, MBS and other high ranking officials.

KSA has tremendous people to people, religious, ancestral, tribal, cultural, linguistic clout in Libya. The Libyan royal family lives in exile in KSA and originated from Hijaz. Many of the Libyan opposition to Gaddafi lived in KSA since KSA-Gaddafi relations turned sour in later years. One of the largest Libyan diasporas in the region live in KSA. A Libyan Arab dynasty (Idrisids) ruled a sultanate in what is Southern KSA not very long ago.

KSA has close relations with the new Algerian government and Tunisia as well. Recently Maghrebi and vice versa leaders (KSA) met (a few months ago) in coordinated talks.

It is futile to involve yourself directly (we have more important things to focus on currently), better to have influence among both sides and most importantly the Libyan people and await what will occur in the future.

I have no doubt that the West-East divide will continue.

I already wrote what would/will happen in Libya in the" Libyan Civil war thread" and my predictions were right (so far).

 

[Falcon29]

Desert war is game of air superiority or long range guided precision strike weapon. It's cat and mouse game, where everything is visible for all parties on the ground. When US stand behind the Tripoli then its useless for Haftar to resist. UAE,France and Saudis are wasting there money pushing a dead horse.

US stands behind Tripoli? They are getting support from Turkey and not the US. Iran is supporting Haftar it appears.

 

[HAIDER]

KSA is not involved in Libya. Can you provide a single evidence of any KSA involvement on the ground? In fact KSA has been talking with both parties. Al-Sarraj and Haftar both visited KSA last year and held talks with King Salman, MBS and other high ranking officials.

I already wrote what would/will happen in Libya in the" Libyan Civil war thread" and my predictions were right (so far).

Well, negotiation recently been called by KSA, but before every news outlet labelled Haftar as backed by 3 countries. Saudi perceive Libya issue as arab world , but other's more interested in untapped mineral resources of that land.

 

[Rukarl]

Israel claims Iran sent Libya's Haftar anti-tank arms

Israel's UN envoy has alleged

Surprise, surprise. Are we going to blindly believe this piece of sh.it Israeli warmonger whose sole purpose is to keep the enemies of the illegal zionist state at war with each other ?

I explained before that Iran has no interest in joing the Libyan war as it is too complicated and too tribalistic. The only way Iran would join anything related to Libya if their former leader was still around asking for assistance.

Btw, even if this report is true it really doesnt add much weight into the overall conflict. Syria is the main game, Libya is between Persian gulf nations and Turks.

Personally, i wouldn't mind arming Haftar

 

[Falcon29]

I wonder what photos Israeli envoy is talking about, that would be interesting to see. Would also like to know what method Iran is using to deliver these weapons.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

KSA is not involved in Libya. Can you provide a single evidence of any KSA involvement on the ground? In fact KSA has been talking with both parties. Al-Sarraj and Haftar both visited KSA last year and held talks with King Salman, MBS and other high ranking officials.

KSA has tremendous people to people, religious, ancestral, tribal, cultural, linguistic clout in Libya. The Libyan royal family lives in exile in KSA and originated from Hijaz. Many of the Libyan opposition to Gaddafi lived in KSA since KSA-Gaddafi relations turned sour in later years. One of the largest Libyan diasporas in the region live in KSA. A Libyan Arab dynasty (Idrisids) ruled a sultanate in what is Southern KSA not very long ago.

KSA has close relations with the new Algerian government and Tunisia as well. Recently Maghrebi and vice versa leaders (KSA) met (a few months ago) in coordinated talks.

It is futile to involve yourself directly (we have more important things to focus on currently), better to have influence among both sides and most importantly the Libyan people and await what will occur in the future.

I have no doubt that the West-East divide will continue.

I already wrote what would/will happen in Libya in the" Libyan Civil war thread" and my predictions were right (so far).

It's a very big mistake this idle policy.

This same idle policy of the GCC post-2003, refusing the acknowledge the newly established government resulted in Iranian growth in Iraq. In Libya it's paving the way for Erdogan's takeover, Egypt is standing by doing nothing with all the arms they have bought. Algeria does nothing and Tunisia is way too weak to do anything but to accept what they are being offered. Those efforts in Yemen would make a lot more sense in Libya instead.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Well, negotiation recently been called by KSA, but before every news outlet labelled Haftar as backed by 3 countries. Saudi perceive Libya issue as arab world , but other's more interested in untapped mineral resources of that land.

UAE and Egypt (in terms of Arab countries) are supporting LNA. KSA is only mentioned because of the closeness to Egypt and UAE but that is a fallacy as UAE and KSA view events in Southern Yemen (for instance) slightly differently as well as the future role of the Al-Assad regime. There is no engagement in Libya from KSA in terms of weapons support, direct involvement etc. on the ground. The government has wisely decided not to pick sides and to try to engage with both parties.

You don't need to tell me what the motives of foreigners (non-Arabs) in Libya are, we are well aware of it so are even the Libyan sides that are currently fighting against each other. Therefore (long-term) only Libyans themselves will be able to overcome their differences and hopefully solve them while Libya remains unified.

Therefore it is good news that Algeria and Tunisia are willing (in particular Algeria) to play a bigger direct role in Libya. In fact Arab neighbors of Libya should be playing the biggest (key role ideally) in the events of Libya. As internal Arab meddling/help is always preferably over foreign one by virtue of none of the Arab actors having territorial claims, wanting to exploit resources of Arab country x or y or any hegemonic ambitions.

EDIT: KSA has been urging the Libyan sides to reach a political agreement years ago, not "recently", lol.

 

[Falcon29]

Surprise, surprise. Are we going to blindly believe this piece of sh.it Israeli warmonger whose sole purpose is to keep the enemies of the illegal zionist state at war with each other ?

I explained before that Iran has no interest in joing the Libyan war as it is too complicated and too tribalistic. The only way Iran would join anything related to Libya if their former leader was still around asking for assistance.

Btw, even if this report is true it really doesnt add much weight into the overall conflict. Syria is the main game, Libya is between Persian gulf nations and Turks.

Personally, i wouldn't mind arming Haftar

Iran and Turkey don't have disputes? You don't think Iran will want to try hurting Turkey after Turkish enforcement of ceasefire in Idlib?

 

[HAIDER]

US stands behind Tripoli? They are getting support from Turkey and not the US. Iran is supporting Haftar it appears.

Yes, US and I think UK warned Russia to stay away from Libyan conflict and stop sending weapons etc