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ISPR denies reports of Pakistan purchasing defence equipment from Israel - thenews.com.pk

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RAWALPINDI: A spokesman from the media wing of the military, ISPR has denied news reports appearing in the section of the media stating that Pakistan had purchased defence equipment from Israel.

According to the spokesman, the reports are misleading and not based on facts.

Israeli newspaper Haaretz quoting a report of the British government said that Israel despite not having any diplomatic ties with Pakistan had exported military equipment to the country.

The report released by Britain’s Department for Business, Innovation and Skills said that Israel had also exported military equipment to four Arab countries.
 
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I do not see why would they deny it IF they had procured the equipment
 
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I do not see why would they deny it IF they had procured the equipment

I don't think so that army is Israel's client,but in case if yes,then I am afraid,a lot questions will be raised about Pakistan Israel relationship.
 
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Dude,

1) What type of Smartphone do you use? Chances are it's got programs and hardware made in Israel.
2) Do you bargain, of course you do your pakistani, chance are you used the Rubinstein bargaining model. Alright its been around before Rubinstein wrote it down for his economics paper.
3) USBs, Israeli Joint project with IBM.
4) Babylon, language translator
5) Drip Irrigation

And these are just a couple of things I found on Wiki. Come on. This is the 21st century. Its a globalized world where you buy materials and equipment from cheap places and use it to manufacture a finished product at a cheap price.

There is no allies or brothers, just interests. And in this case the PAF needed something and they got it. End of Story.
 
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the PR in IS"PR" offcourse stands for Public Releations..they do not want to offend the mullah brigade under loyal command of ameer ul shareef..
 
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The report says that in 2011 Israel sought to purchase British components to export radar systems to Pakistan, as well as electronic warfare systems, Head-up Cockpit Displays ‏(HUD‏), parts for fighter jets and aircraft engines, optic target acquisition systems, components of training aircraft, and military electronic systems.

Prior to that, in 2010, Israel applied for permits to export electronic warfare systems and HUDs with components from Britain to Pakistan. Also in 2010, Israel sought permits to supply Egypt and Morocco with Israeli electronic warfare systems and HUD systems that use British parts, the Haaretz said in its report.

In 2009, Israel requested permits from British authorities to process security equipment exports to Algeria, Morocco and the UAE. The exports processing south for Algeria and the UAE also including permits to supply components for drones.

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Source: Pakistan Today
 
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On one hand they accuse PA of being evil islamists on the other hand they accuse them of buying israeli systems? contradictions...

who are 'they'. who called PA evil islamists..

Thəorətic Muslim;4395058 said:
Dude,

1) What type of Smartphone do you use? Chances are it's got programs and hardware made in Israel.
2) Do you bargain, of course you do your pakistani, chance are you used the Rubinstein bargaining model. Alright its been around before Rubinstein wrote it down for his economics paper.
3) USBs, Israeli Joint project with IBM.
4) Babylon, language translator
5) Drip Irrigation

And these are just a couple of things I found on Wiki. Come on. This is the 21st century. Its a globalized world where you buy materials and equipment from cheap places and use it to manufacture a finished product at a cheap price.

There is no allies or brothers, just interests. And in this case the PAF needed something and they got it. End of Story.
but they cant say it publicly as it will offend the people. They should also say they are involved in drone strikes or at least have tacit agreement. But they wont say it.
 
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This sounds like more fuel to fire up the TTP and resident jihadis to wage war against the PA....a well placed anonymous speculation always helps....
Wonder how this new piece of info will shape the post-2014 Afghanistan-Pakistan landscape
 
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who are 'they'. who called PA evil islamists..

but they cant say it publicly as it will offend the people. They should also say they are involved in drone strikes or at least have tacit agreement. But they wont say it.

I hear you, but forget the drones just focus on the Israel giving equipment to Pakistani Military.

Its one thing for the ISPR to not comment but its another for "highly" educated people on this forum to deny the affects of Globalization.
 
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ell I think that is a good start. Pakistan should get sophisticated weapons from Israel now. Dont care who is offended. As long it is in the interest of Pakistan.

:pakistan:
 
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According to Haaretz (Hebrew edition) that quotes the British report:
In 2011, Israel requested to export to Pakistan Israeli systems that include British components for: radars, EWs, display systems for pilots, components for combat aircrafts, components of aircraft engines, electro-optical target acquisition systems, components for trainer aircrafts and equipment for electronic military systems.

In 2010, Israel requested to export to Pakistan Israeli systems that include British components for: EWs, display systems for pilots.

In 2010, Israel's requested to export to Egypt and Marocco Israeli systems that include British components for: EWs, display systems for pilots.

In 2009, Israel's requested to export to Algeria Israeli systems that include British components for: airborne observation systems, helmets for pilots, radars, communication systems for combat aircrafts, military navigation systems, components for UAVs, systems to jam missiles, airborne radar and electro-optical target acquisition systems.

In 2009, Israel's requested to export to UAE Israeli systems that include British components for: components for UAVs, helmets for pilots, air refuel systems, ground radar, components for combat aircrafts, systems to jam missiles, airborne radar systems, thermal electro-optics and EWs.

Other buyers of Israeli systems for which requests were made to the British in the 5 last years, according to the British report, were: India, Singapore, Turkey, Vietnam, South Korea, Japan, Sweden, Portugal, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Colombia, Holland, Italy, Germany, Spain, Thailand, Macedonia, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, Switzerland, Ecuador, Mexico, Finland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Guinea, Poland and Argentina.

The UK rejected Israeli requests to export systems with British components to: Russia (optical target acquisition systems), Sri Lanka (aircraft engines), India (aircraft engines and satellite radar, Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan (aircraft engines).

The secret Pakistan-Israel arms deals for Afghan jihad

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: Though the recent meeting of Israel and Pakistan’s foreign ministers was the first publicly-acknowledged meeting between leaders from the two countries, they have dealt secretly before, notably in weapons deals in the Afghan war, according to a recent book.

Charlie Wilson’s War: The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History, by journalist George Crile, details the secret deals made by Pakistan’s Army, then headed by General Ziaul Haq, and Israel through the CIA for weapons to supply Afghan mujahideen fighting the Soviet Union. The deals were brokered by US Congressman Charlie Wilson from Texas, the central figure in the book.

The book states that Wilson made the proposal to General Zia to deal with the Israelis during Zia’s first visit to the US after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The proposal was made at a dinner hosted by a Houston woman, Joanne Herring, who Zia took a fancy to and later named honorary consul of Pakistan.

Crile writes. “He (Wilson) told Zia about his experience the previous year when the Israelis had shown him the vast stores of Soviet weapons they had captured from the PLO in Lebanon. The weapons were perfect for the mujahideen, he told Zia. If Wilson could convince the CIA to buy them, would Zia have any problems passing them on to the Afghans? Zia, ever the pragmatist, smiled on the proposal, adding, ‘Just don’t put any Stars of David on the boxes.’”

Wilson, after learning that the Israelis were secretly upgrading the Chinese army’s Russian-designed T-55 tanks, and that the Chinese were supplying Pakistan with T-55s, proposed that Zia enter into a similar secret arrangement with the Israelis. “I was trying to rig it for Israel to do the upgrade without the Chinese operating as the middlemen,” Wilson explained in the book.

The proposition was sensitive, as just three years earlier, a rumour that Israel had been involved in an attack on the Great Mosque in Mecca had prompted thousands of Pakistanis to storm the US embassy in Pakistan and burn it to the ground.

“Publicly, Pakistan and Israel would have to remain foes, he (Wilson) conceded. But as Zia well understood, Pakistan and Israel shared the same deadly foe in the Soviet Union. And the fact was that each could profit mightily by secretly cooperating with the other. If Zia would follow the lead of the Chinese, Wilson said, he could increase the striking power of his tanks, and there might be other areas of military and technological cooperation where both countries could mutually profit,” writes Crile.

“Zia left the congressman with an understanding that he was authorised to begin secret negotiations to open back channels between Islamabad and Jerusalem. Wilson would leave for Israel in March and travel on to Pakistan to brief Zia immediately afterward.”

On one of his visits to Israel, Wilson convinced IMI, the weapons conglomerate that produces Israel’s artillery, tank shells, and machine guns, to design a rocket launcher for the mujahideen. “By the time Wilson was ready to leave, they’d presented him with an impressive-looking design, complete with detailed specifications. It was a mule-portable, multi-rocketed device named, to the congressman’s delight, the Charlie Horse.”

Wilson ended up overseeing much of this weapons programme for Pakistan out of his own congressional office. “There were all these little scientists in the Pentagon-bureaucratic misfits who just needed to be freed,” Wilson recalled years later.

“Within weeks, they began developing an astonishing collection of weapons. The Spanish mortar, for example, was designed to make it possible for the mujahideen to communicate directly with American navigation satellites to deliver repeated rounds within inches of their designated targets,” Crile writes.

When the first Soviet helicopter was downed by the Mujahideen with Israeli weapons, Wilson was sent a special souvenir. “Charlie was the first to be taken to see this temple of Soviet doom. There Bearden had assembled a delegation of ISI officers and mujahideen. With great solemnity, the station chief on behalf of the CIA, the ISI, and the Afghan freedom fighters, presented Charlie with the spent gripstock from the Stinger that Engineer Ghaffar had used to bring down the first Hind.”

Asked on July 17, 2003, after President Pervez Musharraf had initiated a major debate, on whether Pakistan should recognise Israel, keeping in view his disclosures that Pakistan and Israel were defence partners years ago, Charlie Wislon told the South Asia Tribune on July 17: “I will not comment on the present situation. It is for the governments of the two countries to decide what they want to do.”
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_4-9-2005_pg1_7
 
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