Islamophobia: Tony Abbott urged to speak out against attacks on Muslims

[zangazanga]

Pakistan should start fight ISIS, Show us your will. You must prove yourself to the world. The world grows more and more tired of this islamism. And when you start you can also go Nigeria and destroy Boko Haram.

If all muslims went to Iraq, Syria etc. to fight militants it would be chaos, muslims went to Syria to fight an "oppressive regime" look how that turned out, governments of these nations should be able to do so but in Syria, the exportation of democracy into a country which clearly wasn't ready for democracy has created this situation.

If ISIS is not islamic, then the inquisition was not catholic. Its that simple.

If ISIS was Islamic, 100% sure that they'd have at least 500 million fighters instead of +/- 50k, they are as Islamic as DPRK is Democratic.

actually the world community itself is responsible for it , they have always done petty politics on this issue instead of getting united and taking some strong steps against it . If india goes against muslim extremists then they are hindu nationalists but if the west bombs some terrorist hideout then its war on terrorism . This weakness and loopholes in our approach lets them get away . Whenever someone takes initiative and starts a fight against these extremists they find a sympathizer among-st us . Even india has committed this mistake many times , i have seen indian filmakers making movies on 9/11 where they project america as the aggressor and muslims as the innocent people .

Almost all muslims support extremists , they are no angels , the sooner we understand and speak in a united firm voice against them better it would be for the world community . Right from china to usa you can see a common behavior in them .

I would ask the europeans to do some research on difference between the muslims and hindus settled in your countries . You would find that hindus follow the rules of your land , contribute in the progress of your country , mix up with other people and keep his religion & his culture limited to his family . That is the traits of a multicultural society you set out to make when you where offering citizenship to the immigrants , by letting muslims settle down in your country you did a big mistake .

The word extremist is a broad word, like saying all Hindus support extremists, US and most of the west supports the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, a nation which is at the forefront of the wahhabi ideology, maybe we've got to look at things like this.

 

[shuntmaster]

 

[zangazanga]

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There have been countless condemnation against radicals, lettertobaghdadi one of the more recent high profile ones, you on the other hand are supporting radical nationalists in their attacks against innocent muslims in Australia, people like you ought not to have a moral high ground, if you were muslims you'd probably be one of the ISIS members, 2 sides of the same coin doesn't make 1 right.

 

[shuntmaster]

There have been countless condemnation against radicals, lettertobaghdadi one of the more recent high profile ones, you on the other hand are supporting radical nationalists in their attacks against innocent muslims in Australia, people like you ought not to have a moral high ground, if you were muslims you'd probably be one of the ISIS members, 2 sides of the same coin doesn't make 1 right.

Wow.. Just a letter? Mr. Al Bagdadi will use it in his toilet.
Where are the 'Moderate Muslims' we saw in the crowds after the Mohammed cartoons? In the violence after Mohammed Youtube video? In the demonstrations in support of Gaza strip?

 

[zangazanga]

Wow.. Just a letter? Mr. Al Bagdadi will use it in his toilet.
Where are the crowds we saw after the Mohammed cartoons? The violence after Mohammed Youtube video? Demonstrations in support of Gaza strip?

There were big protests in Germany, France, campaigns in the UK, US etc., nearly all relevant muslim scholars have condemned ISIS and their sort, Ibn Bayyah being the high profile one to do so (obama even quoted him at the UN) but still, people like you don't want to listen because it doesn't support the narrative you hold.

In my opinion, muslims should not be told to condemn groups like ISIS like it solves anything or something because it doesn't, muslims should be empowered to sort out their communities not vilified because they are failing to do so, prisons in the UK, France, Germany, Australia are filled with muslims in it for drug dealing, gang related crimes e tc., this is the fertile ground which extremists look to recruit.

 

[Shatterpoint]

Living in Australia I know things have gotten worse, Muslim's pretend to be so good, it's just that a pretense. Time to deport them and let then go back to their shit holes, they don't like it in Australia, they keep playing the racism card, well guess what we are racist against terrorism, beheading of innocents, rape and torture.

Australia is no place for you Muslims who don't want to live in peace, piss off back to your shit holes then if you don't like it here. Australia has given you guys everything, yet this is what we get in return? No more I say, and so does every other true Australian.

Police have been issued with orders to shoot to kill, and I believe its high time.

 

[zangazanga]

Living in Australia I know things have gotten worse, Muslim's pretend to be so good, it's just that a pretense. Time to deport them and let then go back to their shit holes, they don't like it in Australia, they keep playing the racism card, well guess what we are racist against terrorism, beheading of innocents, rape and torture.

Australia is no place for you Muslims who don't want to live in peace, piss off back to your shit holes then if you don't like it here. Australia has given you guys everything, yet this is what we get in return? No more I say, and so does every other true Australian.

Police have been issued with orders to shoot to kill, and I believe its high time.

I agree if someone hates the place, leave, but the few who want to leave and go to Syria or whatever, get arrested, so i'm a bit confused with that logic, do you support people going to Syria and Iraq?.

I also believe that there are Australians who are using terrorism, beheadings of innocent, rape and torture as a prextext to be vile or to further political ambitions, Australias history shows that it is not a tolerant nation at all

 

[Shatterpoint]

I agree if someone hates the place, leave, but the few who want to leave and go to Syria or whatever, get arrested, so i'm a bit confused with that logic, do you support people going to Syria and Iraq?.

I also believe that there are Australians who are using terrorism, beheadings of innocent, rape and torture as a prextext to be vile or to further political ambitions, Australias history shows that it is not a tolerant nation at all

No I don't support them going to other countries to fight, they are born and brought up in Australia why should they fight for other countries? I support arresting them and throwing them in prison for a long, long time. And if they have already made it out of the country and rip up their passports and citizenship, it's very simple.

 

[zangazanga]

No I don't support them going to other countries to fight, they are born and brought up in Australia why should they fight for other countries? I support arresting them and throwing them in prison for a long, long time. And if they have already made it out of the country and rip up their passports and citizenship, it's very simple.

You want them to leave but don't want them to leave because they may fight, i'm seriously confused, let them go and make them stateless blacklist them and don't allow them to ever return, should be easy shouldn't it? prison will just make things worse, for example, someone planning to go to Syria or Iraq won't be imprisoned for over 10 years

 

[JonAsad]

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you should update your self with Arab states taking part in recent US lead bombings on ISIS-
its not wise to toe the same line forever-

 

[Max Pain]

I don´t care about Quran. I don´t care about Islam. What i care for is this:

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This is a threat for our society, culture and nations. And threats get stomped down. This is how humans behave towards threats. If the society decides, that it does not want any muslims in it, so be it. And to be honest my friend, i don´t care about moralistic bla bla either. A threat must be removed and we are reaching a point, where this will happen.

Basic fact is, that muslims threaten to behead non muslims, not only in middle east, but also in europe:

Murder of Lee Rigby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And Australia:

Australian PM: Public execution terror plot foiled - CNN.com

Now we could say we accept the muslims around us and live with this danger. Or we say enough and remove the danger completly while accepting to also punish innocent ones.

And let me tell you, the train in Europe goes for the 2nd options. People have enough of this bullshit. Rightwing parties are on the rise in evry single EU nation. In France Marine Le Pen could be next president. In Germny the AfD wins more and more seats, same goes for UKIP in UK. Our security is more worth than political correctness.

I would also like to state, that Islam is not a race. So don´t come up with racism. Its an ideology.

I don´t care about Quran. I don´t care about Islam. What i care for is this:

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This is a threat for our society, culture and nations. And threats get stomped down. This is how humans behave towards threats. If the society decides, that it does not want any muslims in it, so be it. And to be honest my friend, i don´t care about moralistic bla bla either. A threat must be removed and we are reaching a point, where this will happen.

Basic fact is, that muslims threaten to behead non muslims, not only in middle east, but also in europe:

Murder of Lee Rigby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And Australia:

Australian PM: Public execution terror plot foiled - CNN.com

Now we could say we accept the muslims around us and live with this danger. Or we say enough and remove the danger completly while accepting to also punish innocent ones.

And let me tell you, the train in Europe goes for the 2nd options. People have enough of this bullshit. Rightwing parties are on the rise in evry single EU nation. In France Marine Le Pen could be next president. In Germny the AfD wins more and more seats, same goes for UKIP in UK. Our security is more worth than political correctness.

I would also like to state, that Islam is not a race. So don´t come up with racism. Its an ideology.

hahahahahahahahahaha. I so knew that you cant answer my question, how can you? youre one of those bigots i often come across that sure are a source of laughter for me.first of all welcome to the club of people who have been judging Islam based on the acts of factions that once used to fulfill the interests and aspirations of USA.
your incompetence to bring up anything from the scriptures we follow only depicts how ignorant you are.youd believe just about anything youre fed to believe.
did I even say its a race? are you dumb? or are you too illiterate to read what i Just said?
I pity your limited thinking.I pity how you comprehend the whole situation. so youve judged us from this fake bullshit decapitation from ISIS? here check this.its all debunked.
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James Foley Beheading Video: MSM Admits Its Fake Then Tries to Salvage What They Can - A Sheep No More


the irony of all this is Islam has now become a chewtoy for every idiot to torment, religion is a personal matter and it should remain so, nobody has the right to interfere with someone's faith.

the thing about ISIS and many other factions like Al Qaeda is that they were first created by USA to allow them to attain their interests and when the USA doesnt need them anymore they brand them terrorists, youre getting the dose of your own medicine,
had it not been the Invasion of Iraq back in 2003, this situation would've never arisen.blaming islam for the s**t you created is a tactic not new, been seeing this s**t for far too long.UN themselves testified that there aint no nukes in Iraq, yet you proceeded to bomb Iraq, this all is the aftermath of those events.
just like in afghanistan,your Osama Bin Laden was once a CIA agent and a hero in the west and later he was branded a terrorists, youre getting the dose of your own medicine,still there are many idiots who think that the muslims did 9/11.LOL.it was just a hoax to bomb afghanistan, DIDNT GO EXACTLY ACCORING TO PLAN DID IT?
Some REAL And Truthful Information About ISIS …You NEED To Know This!!! - A Sheep No More
U.S. Trained ISIS At Secret Jordan Base …Was Torture & Mind Control Used To Create Terrorists? - A Sheep No More

they are all your own creation, stop being a victim of stereotypes and grow the f**k up,

oh and according to your logic if you oppress muslims living in your countries. then youre only giving justification to the those who oppress non muslims in muslim dominated areas.
youre no different than the ISIS terrorist both support killing and oppression of people of some specific religion.you cant think other than that,

 

[zangazanga]

Australians are using terrorism and immigration as a pretext go go back to the white Australia policy years in my opinion, the "Time to deport them" arguments are obviously deeply rooted in racist policies of the past, and if I were malay like my friend shuntmaster I'd be worried not cheerleading against campaigns which are there to harm than actually do good to those that are not white/of European descent.

"It's all about crime
Dehumanizing is how I justify it
So I must keep on lying about the history of Africa
So I can live the with massacres
And repeat my mantra of Muslim and terrorist
So I can sleep at night as bombs take flight"

 

[Max Pain]

Every muslim desires islam to be the dominant religion in the world and every person in the world to submit to sharia.
Fortunately, for us kafirs, only some muslims resort to violent means to do what their religion demands i.e. to bring sharia to the entire world. They are the real muslims, who the so called moderate muslims and leftists in the western world label as 'radical muslims'.

HOW THE F**K did you develop such a dumb freakin logic.looks like this guy knows how to read minds of other muslims.its a pity though cuz he douldnt read mine cuz mine says that religion is a personal matter and should remain so. so considering my point of view your logic is nothing other than flat BS.
i came across many Christians who claim that they want christianity to prevail throughout the world.
check any right wing party's and youd find thousands of christians possessing such mentality. they must be terrorists right?

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[ozzy22]

Wow.. Just a letter? Mr. Al Bagdadi will use it in his toilet.
Where are the 'Moderate Muslims' we saw in the crowds after the Mohammed cartoons? In the violence after Mohammed Youtube video? In the demonstrations in support of Gaza strip?

The difference is that western countries were silent or even helping Israel. That’s not the same case for IS who are being bombed by them including with a coalition from some Muslim countries e.g. Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar.

 

[cloud_9]

Tony's isn't popular these days and raising the threat level and joining America was a distraction.But the debate on ABC was funny.Most of the Islamic scholars blamed Australia for the recent events.