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Islamabad Peace Initiative - Afghan Govt holds talks with the Afghan Taliban.

Baas Allah de khair kre, much blood has been spilled already ( espcially the Pakhtoon on both sides have suffered enough)
 
I've been told that Pakistan is not playing a role in discussion points, the process is "Afghan lead & owened". One point Pakistan has put forward to both parties is to work out a mutual cease fire. Pakistan wants both sides to strike a deal so we can together build a front against IS.

This is a divide and conquer approach. There are lots of Taliban in Qatar right now twiddling their thumbs as to what is going on. You will see a news report soon of the Taliban shunning these talks and calling those in Islamabad talking to the government traitors. Fortunately we are on the right side of this equation for once in our lives.
 
If ANSF would have been kicking their you wouldn't have been talking to Taliban. You are talking because you know you can't defeat them.

Because unlike those barbarians saving lives mean the world to us, if the negotiation can save even one Afghan life then the Afghan government is all for it.
 
Because unlike those barbarians saving lives mean the world to us, if the negotiation can save even one Afghan life then the Afghan government is all for it.
Yes go talk I am pretty sure they won't listen. They gave dam on what USA said they hardly going to give importance to you.
 
Yes go talk I am pretty sure they won't listen. They gave dam on what USA said they hardly going to give importance to you.

I just wonder which side are you on ?
 
Are you? No offense but your statements show more of a Talib apologiest then a peace messenger.

Do you have any idea what the Taliban will do to Pakistan ( God forbid) if they take over Afghanistan?
 
For those advocating a gloom and doom situation, the relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan will normalize no matter what the detractors advocate.

We will prosper together.

Taliban, Afghan government talk 'peace' in Islamabad - The Express Tribune

Brother, this is what I love to hear. The world is moving forward and we are still stuck in tribal stone age. Let us look forward then dwell on the past ..

Ps. Look at the British/Germans - They fought two wars and killed 10,000,000 died. every town, every village in UK and Germany lost their sons fighting each other. Today look at them.

Then look at the British/Irish they bombed, shot each other but today within 15 years they are best friends. so let us learn or we will be forever stuck in stone age.

Ps. Guy's don't turn this into a Afghan/Pak pissing match. Let us look to the future.
 
Are you? No offense but your statements show more of a Talib apologiest then a peace messenger.

Do you have any idea what the Taliban will do to Pakistan ( God forbid) if they take over Afghanistan?

We do... it will be a bigger mess than it already is..
 
Brother, this is what I love to hear. The world is moving forward and we are still stuck in tribal stone age. Let us look forward then dwell on the past ..

Ps. Look at the British/Germans - They fought two wars and killed 10,000,000 died. every town, every village in UK and Germany lost their sons fighting each other. Today look at them.

Then look at the British/Irish they bombed, shot each other but today within 15 years they are best friends. so let us learn or we will be forever stuck in stone age.

That’s precisely my point, we need a change of narrative and Ashraf Ghanis is offering that whereby he sees a prospering and stable Pakistan detrimental to a stable and prosperous Afghanistan.

Afghanistan and Pakistan and for that matter the region can only prosper if we prospure as a region.
 
So Pakistan is saying to Talibans and Afganistans officials to sit and find the solution.
Pakistan: No one will leave the room until this problem is solved.:angry:
 
That’s precisely my point, we need a change of narrative and Ashraf Ghanis is offering that whereby he sees a prospering and stable Pakistan detrimental to a stable and prosperous Afghanistan.

Afghanistan and Pakistan and for that matter the region can only prosper if we prospure as a region.

Agreed. For sure this is win, win for both of us. That is without any shred of doubt. This crazy "cut my nose to spite you" is primitive thinking. This has been our problem for thousand of years which is why outsiders from Greeks, Mongols, British/Russian have invaded us while we have been b*tching with each other and sold ourselves to the highest bidder. Time for change in XXI century .....
 
Here are some questions poping in my mind... Anyone can help ?

What will be the role of Taliban after Ceasefire ??

How they will be included in mainstream after 15 years of war ?

Do they have to wait for next elections for representation in Govt or something cook between both ends ?
 
What are the demands of Afghan Taliban?
What are the demands of Afghanistan?
Can someone explain the demands in detail.

Afghan delegation travels to Pakistan for Taliban talks
President’s spokesman says delegation in Islamabad is being led by deputy foreign minister




An Afghan delegation has travelled to Islamabad in the latest attempt to start peace talks with the Taliban, officials said, though there was no confirmation the militants would take part.

In recent months there have been several informal meetings between the Taliban and Afghan officials from varied political backgrounds at venues outsideAfghanistan, but little concrete progress appears to have been made.

The Taliban’s annual offensive is in full swing, with two bomb attacks in Kabul on Tuesday, even as tentative efforts are being made to negotiate an end to their 13-year insurgency.

“A delegation from the high peace council of Afghanistan has traveled to Pakistanfor negotiations with the Taliban,” read a statement posted on the official Twitter account of the Afghan president, Ashraf Ghani.

The high peace council (HPC) is the body tasked with opening negotiations with the militants.

Sayed Zafar Hashemi, Ghani’s deputy spokesman, confirmed the announcement and said the delegation was being led by the deputy foreign minister, Hekmat Khalil Karzai.

Hashemi gave no details of the expected length of talks, subjects to be discussed or Taliban participation.

Official efforts to reopen peace negotiations with the Taliban have so far borne little fruit, but informal talks have taken place in the recent past behind a veil of secrecy.

Last month the Taliban said it had taken part in informal talks in Norway with an Afghan delegation, reportedly made up of women.

At another round of informal meetings in Qatar in May, activists said Taliban delegates, long condemned for their misogynistic ideology and lack of respect for human rights, pledged support for women’s education and their right to work in “male-dominated professions”.

The Taliban have laid down hardline preconditions for taking part in full-blown negotiations, stressing the need for the complete departure of foreign troops from Afghan soil.

Nato ended its combat mission against the militants at the end of December but a smaller force has stayed on for training and counter-terrorism operations.
Afghan delegation travels to Pakistan for Taliban talks | World news | The Guardian
 
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