Is this India-China treaty possible????

[relativiti]

I am unable to understand.................. Why we all the time try to look for some way to be friendly with China. When they don't want peace.

Why We try? Do we really need to? Is it because you guys (Only Indians) think we cannot protect our self from them? Even after there arrogant behaviors in past?

I mean, Why can we say and feel the truth that China is our Enemy. China will play all its Cards to Sabotage the Growth of India (many examples are there). they are great great friends of our biggest Enemy i.e. Pakistan.

Instead of proposing points for Peace Treaty.................... Prepare our Self To counter them. also let accept openly that they are our Enemy no.2.

So the billions of dollars of trade goes to vain???

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

We need to stop trying to take the first step forward in certain cases - all these years we have been doing this - Again and again with Pakistan , again with China . We should concentrate on our economy , our military , our research - Play the waiting game for what its worth . The world is increasingly becoming interconnected . Interests converge every now and then . As we gradually develop into an advanced nation with a robust economy and military and huge international clout - China, Pakistan all these countries will be bound to engage with us to preserve their interests.

This kind of premature attempts to resolve issues only makes the opposite parties think us in a concessional mood and they will inevitable pressurize us to compromise . We should concentrate on our growth before these attempts.

 

[Obambam]

he is not a fraud=though nobel prize should not have been given for promises.
on topic - indo china, china russia partnership is already there in some levels..if indo china border dispute i is over three of the countries(can make a bigger, better partnership.

Agreed, it will only make more sense fo the three neighbouring countries to work more closely with one another.
I still think Obama is a fraud though for making false promises. The prize shouldn't have been given to him in the first place.

 

[hembo]

The Tibetan Govt in exile is an independent body and India can do nothing about it or else the UNHRC will raise Cain!

As per the UN Convention on Refugees, India cannot even deny them asylum!

Sir,

Let us not be diplomatic and say stuff like this. You and I both know that If GOI really wants it can bloody well close shop of the so called govt in exile. It was Nehru's ill thought out and ill-planned strategy (both on China as well as Kashmir) that has landed us in current predicament on Tibet (and Kashmir). IMHO, once we officially accepted Tibet as a part of China, we should have disbanded the Govt in exile. By continuing to host it we only are making things complicated. The border row between India and China can be concluded and we could have focussed more on homogeneous development of our majority downtrodden populace if our leadership had true vision of the coming decades. We (both India and China) cannot and should continue to take aggressive posture towards each other if both of us want not to undo the recent decades good work in economic growth.

Regardless of some Chinese member's bully-ish attitude on this forum (some of them are not from the mainland though and hence the arrogance based on the mainlander's good work toward their economic and military growth), we should make every effort to built on the present good economic cooperation between us. This is the way forward for progress of Asia in 21st century.

 

[Splurgenxs]

We need to stop trying to take the first step forward in certain cases - all these years we have been doing this - Again and again with Pakistan , again with China . We should concentrate on our economy , our military , our research - Play the waiting game for what its worth . The world is increasingly becoming interconnected . Interests converge every now and then . As we gradually develop into an advanced nation with a robust economy and military and huge international clout - China, Pakistan all these countries will be bound to engage with us to preserve their interests.

This kind of premature attempts to resolve issues only makes the opposite parties think us in a concessional mood and they will inevitable pressurize us to compromise . We should concentrate on our growth before these attempts.

Yea ive looping the same message all along... Finally!

Who are the "peace treaty people" to feel Insecure for the rest of us ?
Grow up for a change and call a Spade ,a Spade! For once; and quit being a darn Hippy .

Chamberlain gave up part of Czechoslovakia to Hitler ;we laid off part of Kashmir to Pakistan in hopes of peace(both happened in an untimely and impatient manner)......search it up and ull know where this is going.

Let the wise deal with Diplomacy and let us indulge in Facts ...Posting cooked up scenarios will get u know where..

.Ground Dynamics change everyday ...tomorrows Foe can become todays Ally ....be it America , Pakistan or China..Patience is key.

Everything loses value if used non Judiciously . Best way to make a move is to do it all in one go at the right time ..The potency and Value remain Intact.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

IMHO, once we officially accepted Tibet as a part of China, we should have disbanded the Govt in exile. By continuing to host it we only are making things complicated. The border row between India and China can be concluded and we could have focussed more on homogeneous development of our majority downtrodden populace if our leadership had true vision of the coming decades. We (both India and China) cannot and should continue to take aggressive posture towards each other if both of us want not to undo the recent decades good work in economic growth.

Yet your government still continues to host them.

What is the point then?

Regardless of some Chinese member's bully-ish attitude on this forum (some of them are not from the mainland though and hence the arrogance based on the mainlander's good work toward their economic and military growth)

Nice dig at Hong Kong people there.

Hong Kong's GDP per capita is 30 times that of India, you don't think we worked hard to get here?

 

[hembo]

Yet your government still continues to host them.

What is the point then?

Well I'm voicing my opinion against my Govt's policy. That's the point. Is it not allowed in China?

Nice dig at Hong Kong people there.

Hong Kong's GDP per capita is 30 times that of India, you don't think we worked hard to get here?

They sure did. They are 30 times richer & stronger then India, what else evidence does one need? Happy?

 

[below_freezing]

I am unable to understand.................. Why we all the time try to look for some way to be friendly with China. When they don't want peace.

Why We try? Do we really need to? Is it because you guys (Only Indians) think we cannot protect our self from them? Even after there arrogant behaviors in past?

I mean, Why can we say and feel the truth that China is our Enemy. China will play all its Cards to Sabotage the Growth of India (many examples are there). they are great great friends of our biggest Enemy i.e. Pakistan.

Instead of proposing points for Peace Treaty.................... Prepare our Self To counter them. also let accept openly that they are our Enemy no.2.

We really don't care but prefer to be friendly with India.

If you treat us as an enemy, we will treat you as an enemy, and countries we treat as enemies, don't have good results.

 

[DesiGuy]

useless thread.....

 

[Shinigami]

"A few"? You must be taking the piss.

The first ten or twenty times I heard it being used against me (ALWAYS by Indians), I sort of excused it as just bad luck.

But after that, I just lost interest in trying to be friendly with Indians here. What is the point?

Imagine trying to go over to your neighbor's house and being friendly to him, only to have him spit in your eye, and call you a "f**king chink". Don't you think that is just a waste of time?

i have read your previous posts from last year(when u were more friendly).

8 out of 10 indians replied positively to you, yet you only notice the 20%. why? are you the type who only sees bad in others? if everyone is like you there will only be enmity between people. see the good for change.

besides i think indians are bieng extraordinarily compromising.considering that its because of china that india is in danger of nuclear anhilation (from pakistan), not to mention the 62 invasion which indians consider "stab in the back". yet if you see the BBC polls india likes/dislikes china just as much as an average country. why?

 

[akinkhoo]

the term are agreeable if the Chinese SAR for Tibet in question is Tawang region, will the India gave that to the Dalai Lama backed representative?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

i have read your previous posts from last year(when u were more friendly).

8 out of 10 indians replied positively to you, yet you only notice the 20%. why? are you the type who only sees bad in others? if everyone is like you there will only be enmity between people. see the good for change.

besides i think indians are bieng extraordinarily compromising.considering that its because of china that india is in danger of nuclear anhilation (from pakistan), not to mention the 62 invasion which indians consider "stab in the back". yet if you see the BBC polls india likes/dislikes china just as much as an average country. why?

Firstly no, in my experience there were FAR more negatives than positives from my interactions with your countrymen.

Secondly, 1959 happened before 1962. To us, it was India who stabbed us in the back in 1959, by hosting our largest separatist group, immediately after they failed to violently overthrow the Chinese government.

Thirdly, Indian views of China are very negative, according to the most recent BBC country rating poll. Whereas Chinese views towards India are quite balanced. Here is the thread:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/96824-bbc-country-rating-poll.html

 

[Shinigami]

Firstly no, in my experience there were FAR more negatives than positives from my interactions with your countrymen.

Secondly, 1959 happened before 1962. To us, it was India who stabbed us in the back in 1959, by hosting our largest separatist group, immediately after they failed to violently overthrow the Chinese government.

Thirdly, Indian views of China are very negative, according to the most recent BBC country rating poll. Whereas Chinese views towards India are quite balanced. Here is the thread:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/96824-bbc-country-rating-poll.html

no. read your posts one year back and judge the replies made by indians in an unbiased manner.

Secondly, 1959 happened before 1962. To us, it was India who stabbed us in the back in 1959, by hosting our largest separatist group, immediately after they failed to violently overthrow the Chinese government.

india does not HOST a group. india is a country that gives REFUGE.

indian natives have given REFUGE to jews, parsis, tibetans etc... this basically stems from a mandatory law in hinduism relegion. such a charecter of indians have been ackmowledged the world over.

hence if tibetans come asking for refuge what do you expect? considering that india and tibet has been closely linked since antiquity, that dalai lama said "tibet is a child of india" (or something like that)

immediately after they failed to violently overthrow the Chinese government

from where do u get such ideas? india has acknowledged tibet and taiwan as chinese territory from the beginning.

Thirdly, Indian views of China are very negative, according to the most recent BBC country rating poll. Whereas Chinese views towards India are quite balanced. Here is the thread:

OBSERVE

1.India dislikes china as much as Canada, UK, Turkey, etc. have these countries faced nuclear anhilation, or invasion from china? no.

2.italy, spain france, germany, etc hate china a lot more than india. what has china EVER done to them?


the question that baffles me is... WHY DO INDIANS NOT HATE CHINA?
especially when they very good reasons to do so

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

the question that baffles me is... WHY DO INDIANS NOT HATE CHINA?
especially when they very good reasons to do so

The answer is simple, Indians DO hate China.

You think I get called a "slanty-eyed Chink" by Indians, because they love Chinese people?

 

[Rig Vedic]

Thirdly, Indian views of China are very negative, according to the most recent BBC country rating poll. Whereas Chinese views towards India are quite balanced. Here is the thread:

Ordinary Chinese people have no reason to be negative about India, as India has not been promoting terrorist groups that target Chinese civilians.