Is this a chinese indigineous weapon or foreign made

[noksss]

The reason i started this thread is not to post the same crap again and claim how indigenous is the Chinese weapon the reason is to ask a simple question to pakistani's like Growler which i have asked at the end of this post

If we take the TYPE 054 frigate following are the very vital components which are either imported by chinese or license produced

Sonar:
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MGK-335

This is a russian made sonar

Engine:SEMT Pielstick 21,000 hp
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The above mentioned engine is french engine manufactured by MAN Diesel

Radar: Type 363S
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The radar is based on Thomson-CSF DRBV-15 Sea Tiger Radar

Thomson-csf(is renamed as Thales Group which is a French company)

Fire control:
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1)Chinese made Type 345 is used

Based on Thomson-CSF Castor II fire control system

2)Type 347g radar

In the 1980s, China imported the OTOBreda (now OTO-Melara) Twin Fast Forty AAA [2] and Selenia (now AMS) SPG-74 (RTN-20X) fire control system from Italy for evaluation.and Type

347 is based on SPG-74 technology.

3)The Type 360 radar
Based on Selenia RAN-10S / SPS – 774 (italy)

Combat Management System:
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1)ZKJ-4B/6
The above mentioned part is based on Thomson-CSF TAVITAC

2)SNTI-240 satellite communications (SATCOM), and datalink.is a british made

3)HZ-100

The Elettronica SpA suite was initially based on the Farad (ELT 123) ECM system which was a basic RWR/ESM system. It has since evolved into numerous iterations
The ELT 211 ESM suite is used on the improved version of the Newton system (Beta). It merges the ELT 123, which is basically a RWR system China was able to obtain a license to

manufacturer the Newton Beta suite in 1985 following the purchase of a few units of the original system from Elettronica and this is done by CSIC 723
The system on the Zhuhai has been referred to as the Type 825 ESM system and it is presumed that the complete locally manufactured system is using this domestic designation

instead of the Type 211 associated with the ESM set for the Elettronica Beta equipment. It is possible that the export designation for this system is the HZ-100


Main gun:
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1)Type 210 100 mm gun

This gun is based on French Creusot-Loire T100C

2)The AK-630 CIWS Gun

Its a Soviet fully automatic naval six-barreled 30 mm Gatling gun.


Missiles:
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1)HQ-7 SAM

HQ-7 SAM is based on Sea Crotale SAM

2)Hongniao_missile-2

Chinese land attack cruise missile, which is based on the variants of the Russian Kh-SD/65.


Torpedos:
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Yu-7 used in this frigate is the Chinese development of the US Mk 46 Mod

Yu-7 torpedo obtained USA technical support in 1985, when China signed a US$ 8 million deal with USA in purchasing Mk 46 Mod. 2 torpedoes with technological support for
licensed assembly.

Even though every one of u know the information which i have posted my question is

1)How should we call this firgate as either a chinese made one or a foreign made

if it was a foreign made as claimed by Drowler in case of India's ALH which is using foreign components then the chinese frigate is also a foreign made

Else if it is called as a Chinese frigate then every indian has the right to call India's ALH as indian made component

So i need a straight answer from Pakistani's like Drowler in such cases

 

[jagjitnatt]

If it has the chinese badge, not only is it indigenous, it is God sent. Super duper hi fi unlimited range weapon. Not to mention the laser, proton gun, and phaser weapons.

Sometimes I feel insanity is what will cause 2012.

 

[noksss]

we said jagjitnatt this is the doubt i have too when some paksitan's turning a blind eye about what other countries are doing and only talking about india

 

[ebungo]

Growler lives in his own world .Let him enjoy his ignorance .We are only making him happier by quoting him

 

[below_freezing]

So let me guess: some westerner say it's "based" on something, therefore it is. what does "based" mean? very unscientific word. maybe it was purchased. maybe the only thing similar is that they're both radars. what does it mean? i don't know, do you know, can you tell me?

but the fact remains that we were never sold any of those subsystems, so what this "base" means i don't know.

a toyota is based on a ford since they're both cars, i bet toyota is a cheap ripoff counterfeit company right?

 

[psychedelic_renegade]

How is this thread related to India defence, if some random guy committing tomfoolery, would you also follow suit? :s

 

[Kompromat]

ebungo , i have reported your post as a personal attack , be careful next time.

Cheerz.

 

[ebungo]

ebungo , i have reported your post as a personal attack , be careful next time.

Cheerz.

What is wrong with my reply

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

So let me guess: some westerner say it's "based" on something, therefore it is. what does "based" mean? very unscientific word. maybe it was purchased. maybe the only thing similar is that they're both radars. what does it mean? i don't know, do you know, can you tell me?

but the fact remains that we were never sold any of those subsystems, so what this "base" means i don't know.

a toyota is based on a ford since they're both cars, i bet toyota is a cheap ripoff counterfeit company right?

Leave them be, they are just frustrated at the pace of their own progress.

 

[psychedelic_renegade]

So i need a straight answer from Pakistani's like Drowler in such cases

Why do you need certificate from a man without any credential, that too on online forum? India making, selling and profiting from ALH. End of the story.

 

[xukxuk]

so china should invest more money into defence budget for military R&D.
got your point
thanks for post