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The Hindu : Opinion / Op-Ed : Is the Navy's newest sub worth the price?

A 2004 file picture taken in Brest Harbour, western France, shows the Vepr Russian nuclear submarine of the Project 971 Shchuka-B type, or Akula-class by NATO classification, the same type as the Nerpa Russian nuclear submarine. Indian navy personnel took command of the nuclear-powered submarine, Russian-built Chakra II, former Nerpa of Russia’s navy, after collecting the submarine near the Russian port of Vladivostok on Tuesday.


Not much of a sea-based deterrent, says Pravin Sawhney; Chakra is the filler of strategic space says Vijay Shankar

Not much of a sea-based deterrent

Just when the Russian nuclear-powered Akula-II submarine joins the Indian Navy as INS Chakra on a 10-year lease at a cost of over $one billion, the moot question is: does it contribute to India's sea-based nuclear deterrence?

To put matters in perspective, India in 1988 had procured the Soviet Charlie I class nuclear attack submarine, renamed INS Chakra on a three-year lease. The vessel came without strategic weapons, with the sole purpose of familiarising naval personnel on training and maintenance of nuclear-powered submarines. The rules of engagement spelt out that INS Chakra would not be used in war. The hidden part of the deal was that Soviets would help India in its indigenous Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV), both materially and intellectually. While the promised assistance to the ATV programme which culminated in the launch of 80MW nuclear reactor S-2 vessel (to be called INS Arihant on commissioning) by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on 26 July 2009 came in fits and starts, the technology of the 6,000 tonne vessel is between first and second generation vintage. By comparison, the U.S. has ninth generation nuclear-powered subs which do not require refuelling throughout their lifetime.

FOLLOW-ON VESSELS

The Russian Akula sub, given the same name, INS Chakra comes with similar purpose and rules of engagement. Like the earlier deal, the undisclosed understanding this time is that it is part of the Gorshkov package (INS Vikramaditya) and includes Russian help in the follow-on indigenous nuclear-powered vessels. While S-2 vessel began sea-trials in January (could last 12 to 18 months), India has planned follow-on S-3 and S-4 vessels based on the S-2 design. As all three vessels have similar hull and nuclear power plant, capability enhancements will be meagre. It is only when the S-5 vessel with a new design and a powerful nuclear reactor is launched, which could be two-decades away, can India hope to have a semblance of sea-based deterrence against China. The S-2 and the coming S-3 and S-4 vessels will lack adequate capabilities in three key areas of stealth, reactor design and missile range to become a deterrent ballistic missile armed nuclear-powered submarine (SSBN) against China, which with its Jin class subs is at least four decades ahead. India's S-2 vessel armed with 700km K-15 missile will have difficulty in even deterring Pakistan as, given its limitations, it would be required to be positioned closer to hostile shore.

Against this backdrop, a retired chief of naval staff had told me that the coming of Akula four years late, when the S-2 vessel is already undergoing sea-trials, serves little purpose. While still in office, he had written to the government to review the leasing of Akula programme. According to him, there is a case to dispense with the S-3 and S-4 vessels which will consume enormous time and finances. India, after all, is still on the technology understanding curve and not ready for production. Therefore it should leap-frog to work on S-5 vessels which would entail imagination and initiative. Given improved relations with the U.S. and France, why cannot India seek advanced reactor technology from them? Developing long range ballistic missile would have to be an indigenous effort as it comes under global restrictive regimes. Why cannot ISRO with capabilities to propel rockets up to 10,000km help DRDO make 8,000km ballistic missiles? These hard questions need to be examined to produce credible sea-based deterrence.

(The writer is editor, FORCE newsmagazine. Email: pravin@forceindia.net)

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Chakra, the filler of strategic space

A strategic posture of a nation is a declaration, more by deed than articulation, of its orientation, will and intent. It purports to mould and shape a future that would benefit its larger objectives. The process is fraught with the hazards of conflicting interests and therefore it demands the weight of the nation's comprehensive power both soft and hard.

In an era when the face of soft power is that of an Assange and its voice, that of Gandhi, Gibran, Che and Osama; a critical instrument to uphold posture is the State's military power and the talent to distinguish between the maintenance of armed forces and their use.

The operational canvas is a transient that abhors futuristic force planning. So it was, year-after-every-five year the planner was condemned to an exercise that perceived threats and building force structures to cope.

‘INTIMIDATION AND ACCRETION'

It was, therefore, the ‘instantaneous intimidation' that drove plans and consequently resulted in ‘a tail chasing' accretion of forces. Unfortunately to some, this inspiration continues to be the pretender that fills strategic space. The case of our strategic maritime posture as a function of the declared ‘Look East' policy is a study in point. Here the need for a theory to make transparent the complexity of the problem and invite the necessary intellectual rigour to not just ‘chart a course' but also to analyse and cater for the hurdles that may beset policy is the first imperative.

As Julian Corbett so eloquently put it, theory may not be a substitute for judgment and experience, but is a means to fertilize both.

Significantly, the recent acquisition on a 10-year lease of the ‘Chakra' (Russian Akula II class nuclear attack submarine) is an extremely perspicacious departure from the past for it is a concrete step towards the translation of the theory and realisation of the larger strategic maritime posture that serves policy.

LONG GESTATION

Admittedly, the gestation period has been long; it is recognised the process has been challenged by a fragmented approach (the Chakra in its first avatar came to us in1988) and plagued by the economics and the geopolitics of the times. But these are challenges that any strategic project must expect to face and defy.

The nuclear attack submarine (SSN) being completely independent of air for propulsion frees it from the need to surface frequently, the enormous power generated permits a bigger hull to operate at high speeds with large payloads for durations that is limited by human fatigue and replenishment of consumables only (reactors require refuelling at intervals of 25 years). In real terms, it is critical to understand what the Chakra represents. Working the submarine to our operational challenges and demands is just the tip of the iceberg, training and building a bank of specialised personnel; creating the necessary infrastructure to maintain nuclear submarines; unique logistic management practices; development of doctrines and procedures; generating design feature for the indigenous programme and, most importantly, building an ethos of efficient and safe nuclear submarine stewardship and exertions, these are the 8/9th submerged part of the iceberg. Strategically SSNs in numbers provide a vital element of a riposte to any “sea control strategy” that an adversary may contemplate or a “denial strategy” that we may plan.

STATE OF ART

In terms of the platform, the Akula II represents the state of art in SSN design, the programme having been launched in the mid 1990s. The nearest in terms of design vintage is the British ‘Astute' class also of the mid 1990s,but in terms of capabilities it is smaller and less accomplished; while the American Los Angeles class predates the Chakra by a decade. Also, the design philosophy harmonises with the orientation of our strategic nuclear submarine project.

As far as the economics of the matter is concerned, $920 million for a 10-year lease with certain support features attached must be viewed in perspective of what the SSN represents and the fact that a new SSN of similar capability with a 30-year life would have a price tag of about $3billion and a through life cost of (thumb rule) $9 billion would suggest that the deal is a sound one.

As any nation that has committed to operating maritime nuclear force will fully appreciate that kudos are due to our planners who visualised a theory, saw a form and translated it to a force plan and now have given substance to each step of the way.

(Vice Admiral (Retd.) Vijay Shankar PVSM, AVSM is the former Commander-in-Chief of the Andaman & Nicobar Command, Commander-in-Chief of the Strategic Forces Command and Flag Officer Commanding Western Fleet. Email: snigir@gmail.com)
 
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Mr Editor- FORCE magazine.

Tell me how would we gain experience to run a nuke sub without Akula? By leasing your motor cycle? What rules of engagement are you talking about here? Akula comes with weapons ( though restricted ) to be used in wars.

Only Russia could have done this for India. Its perfect timing just before our own nuke sub launch.
 
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the Nerpa is won't go on deterrent patrol like the Arihant it will be used as a training vessel for future Indian navy nuclear submarine crews the Nerpa being very advanced can provide state of the art function and training to future crews not to mention we already sent the future Arihant crew to Russia for training on a nuclear submarine.
 
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Who are these jokers who write these paid articles? This sentence says it all on where this author's allegation lies-
Given improved relations with the U.S. and France, why cannot India seek advanced reactor technology from them.
Even during the Atlantique incident, these DDM said that the missile used was French Mantra when it was the Russian R-60 which downed the plane.

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I read this article this morning .... I think there is something fishy the Force editor mentions... If not the Akula then with whose Sub are we going to get training from? A Los Angel es class sub? Of course there has been delay but that doesn outclass the decision. The Arihant needs some smart strategy and training prog. Also the author confuses the generation of the Subs... Can anyone explain me that?
 
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any SSN without ECMs / reduced noise levels/ long range missiles is almost useless as a deterrent. We did a superb job is coming up with Arihant but what lies ahead is far more challenging. We have to progressively reduce the noise levels, increase the range of BMs carrying and each SSBN should be capable of delivering a death blow to any nation if need arises.

WIth the coming of Akula-2, one of the quietest subs in barring the WOLF class in US navy, it will provide us the familiarity of working and thereby designing highly lethal SSNs. The critical advantage cannot be measured in terms of any amount of $$
 
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Definitely worth it.

The author seems to have a deliberate agenda.
(lately, quite commonly seen in Hindu articles).
 
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^ I would beg to differ. The Hindu is one of the most impartial newspapers in INDIA. You cannot blame them for the column. They knew that defense journalism is not their cup of tea hence chose to present both the sides of the coin.

anyways, a good development indeed
 
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Definitely worth it.

The author seems to have a deliberate agenda.
(lately, quite commonly seen in Hindu articles).
correct... but U can see two different arguments in that....
 
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^ I would beg to differ. The Hindu is one of the most impartial newspapers in INDIA. You cannot blame them for the column. They knew that defense journalism is not their cup of tea hence chose to present both the sides of the coin.

anyways, a good development indeed

I disagree..been Hindu subscriber for a while. They have a left leaning agenda.
 
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any SSN without ECMs / reduced noise levels/ long range missiles is almost useless as a deterrent. We did a superb job is coming up with Arihant but what lies ahead is far more challenging. We have to progressively reduce the noise levels, increase the range of BMs carrying and each SSBN should be capable of delivering a death blow to any nation if need arises.

WIth the coming of Akula-2, one of the quietest subs in barring the WOLF class in US navy, it will provide us the familiarity of working and thereby designing highly lethal SSNs. The critical advantage cannot be measured in terms of any amount of $$

now who is the other country that can give us a Nuke sub for money?

IN paid just around $1bn for 10 years for Akula 2 submarine and 2 more submarines of this type are likely to come from Russia within next 2-4 years. And here, if it was worth paying high price for PAK FA/ FGFA then it was because PAK FA/ FGFA will be the best fighter of the latest generation, fit in comparison with US’s best F22/ F35, but we know that Russian submarines are still being improved to catch up with German and mainly with US’s submarines and its very likely that Russian submarines for Indian Project 75I will be of next generation and much more advanced than their current Akula 2 submarines so its better that IN would get more submarines from Project 75I which would come in production from 2020 onwards. I read somewhere that IN may prefer to have 9 Scorpeon submarines (in place of only 6) from France which will come in production from 2015 and 9 submarines from Russia for Project 75I which will come in production from 2020 onwards as it will be economically cheap to have more submarines after having complete production lines of these two. I think, IN may either return this Akula 2 submarine by 2021, or, they may again lease it for 10 years more only and may produce one more submarine through Project 75I till 2030. At the same time this Akula 2 nuclear submarine is itself a generation ahead than any submarine of Indian neighbours :cheers:

India is in talks for the lease of another Akula-II class submarine from Russia, say sources.

"It will be deadly `hunter-killer' of enemy submarines and warships, as also provide effective protection to a fleet at sea. It can also provide cover to the nuclear-armed INS Arihant if required. With a dived speed of 30-35 knots, INS Chakra will be able to outrun any current Pakistani or Chinese submarine," said a source.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...clear-submarine-club/articleshow/11612249.cms


arihant 1st 2nd generation sub?:blink:

I have said before, most of the writers write whatever few tell them, without any deep research. I do think that there may be few Chinese submarines who would be little more capable than Arihant class submarines but we know that most of the Chinese submarines are of very poor techs and Arihant must be far more capable than those submarines. Also, even if few Chinese submarines might be having few better techs than Arihant, then its also true that IN got assistance from Russia and from other western friends for Arihant so its likely that Arihant would be little more capable than those Chinese best submarines also in few areas. But we hope we will see more capable submarines in Arihant class itself with passage of time as India might have got good experience from home production of this submarine. we hope to see more advanced Arihant Class nuclear submarines by next 5-6 years :tup:
 
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