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Is reality real?

In contrast, the Kuran-i Kerim says everything is known. All realities are preserved. Everything is under 100% C4I!!! God doesn't play with dices.....
Here is a problem. If you are really a brain in a vat or hooked to a virtual reality, you cannot be sure that what you were taught or you learnt or read was indeed Kuran-i Kerim and NOT something else.
 
What you guys are talking about is called 'Brain in a vat' argument in philosophy and thought experiments. It is a standard disclaimer in all arguments and before you ask, there is no way for a brain in a vat to tell if it is perceiving a real world or just being made to perceive a real world.

Cannt post a link but in wikipedia search for : Brain_in_a_vat .

In almost all philosophical discussions and scientific experiments existence of physical reality is an assumption. It is assumed that a physical reality exist and we can perceive and measure it by experimentation. It is an axiom in our logic and understanding of the world as well as in our discourse of science. If you deny that assumption, then it is simply not possible to have any conclusion or logical argument because then you can say that if physical reality does not exits and we all are brains in vats then all arguments and experiments are meaningless.

By controlling what we perceive and how we percive and how we reason, any perception can be manufactured and any conclusion can be drawn. Heck, if brain in a vat is our reality then it is possible that we ALL may agree 1 is equal to 2 or 1 is not equal to 1. Because all of our logic, thinking, perception is a result of our brain activity -- if controlled, it will be possible to make us agree on any argument even invalid ones. It will be impossible for us to even trust basic rules of logic like 1 = 1 or 1 =/= 2.
Interesting.....does our brain reside in our head or it just makes us feel that it is in our heads while it actually is somewhere else? It is true that our brains function in a similar way. So we can agree on things like 2+2 =4. And things like anxiety, fear are programmed in our brain.

Simple answer: we have no way of knowing in absolute terms...at least as far as what we understand to be life.

Thus we can only truly understand everything in relative terms.

Fundamentally because we cannot even answer the question, do we even perceive the same? i.e does the colour red look the same to me as it does to you?

Those that accept the need for absolutism to exist, often fill it with a creator/deity/force of some kind....since only an absolute can even answer this question....from which stems everything else.

When you talk of virtual reality, simulation etc, these are also relative constructs we have conceptualised. In the end it would depend on whether the reality is an open set or closed set (i.e does reality have bounds).

If its an open set....chances of it being understood (any fundamental aspect of it e.g. existence/non-existence) is always going to be zero. Since with it being unbounded, we accept there are infinite possibilities (thus always an infinite unknowns)....given any finite number/infinity = 0. Even if we last billions (or some finite) number of years, the relative sum total (knowledge ratio) of what we know in the end is going to be zero in that case. Even if we last an infinite number of years, it will still be 0 because that time infinity by set theory is not mapped one to one with the knowledge infinity (multiple infinities theory - ref. Georg Cantor).

If the reality on the other hand is a closed set, the drop in an ocean analogy prevails. We just over time expand the drop to be the ocean. Provided there is enough time, it can be done (drop = ocean itself)...and we can potentially answer what reality is in the end (if is in deed answerable by having all information in the bounds). But even then we only answer it for what exists within those bounds. Could we ever answer for whats outside the bounds? Do the bounds even matter in the first place? Are there other realities? Are there essentially 0? Or something completely foreign to our approach and understanding potential? It again boils down to the concept of infinity. Thus I don't think we can ever know in the absolute sense.

It is talked about, quite hauntingly, in one verse of the Vedas:

Then even nothingness was not, nor existence,
There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it.
What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping?
Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed?

Then there was neither death nor immortality
nor was there then the torch of night and day.
The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining.
There was that One then, and there was no other.

At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness.
All this was only unillumined water.
That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing,
arose at last, born of the power of heat.

In the beginning desire descended on it -
that was the primal seed, born of the mind.
The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom
know that which is kin to that which is not.

And they have stretched their cord across the void,
and know what was above, and what below.
Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces.
Below was strength, and over it was impulse.

But, after all, who knows, and who can say
Whence it all came, and how creation happened?
the gods themselves are later than creation,
so who knows truly whence it has arisen?

Whence all creation had its origin,
he, whether he fashioned it or whether he did not,
he, who surveys it all from highest heaven,
he knows - or maybe even he does not know.

Infinity is a mathematical concept. Does it exists in the realm of physics? As a matter of fact you can say that there are infinite number of integers. But can you say that there are infinite number of atoms in a piece of paper? Can you say that there are infinite number of universes when you cannot count the number of universes? There maybe very high unknown numbers of universes there and many are being formed every moment but at a certain moment are there infinite number of universes? Can possibilities be infinite? Something / infinity is not zero but a very small number. That's why we can say that 2/infinity >1/infinity....although theoretically both reduces to 0.
 
Does it exists in the realm of physics?

That's what I mean, we have no way of establishing it (i.e is the universe/reality bounded or not?) now. We can only speculate....and we may always be stuck there.

But can you say that there are infinite number of atoms in a piece of paper?

The way atoms are defined right now, there would be a finite number....whether the object is big or small. There is a finite number of atoms in the entire universe (as we currently understand/observe it) at any given moment as well. Its just a very exceedingly large number. Even if you break it down to the number of subatomic particles, quarks and or their energy equivalent summations etc, there would be a finite number in the end (in the current model, given matter cannot be created/destroyed and we inherited all matter from the big bang).

Can you say that there are infinite number of universes when you cannot count the number of universes?

Well anything that is not infinite can be eventually counted. You just need enough time and have a way to observe them.

So the answer is yes, if they are truly uncountable, they are infinite. That is the definition of infinity.

Now ascertaining which situation is in existence can indeed be impossible (i.e a tremendously huge number, but not enough time in our localised existence of observing to count (even with say exponentially improving observing/counting techniques).....such large numbers do exist, there are an infinite number of them as well)....i.e very large but finite numbers can pose to be infinite for all intents and purposes (due to the bounds of time, existence and even reality etc).

There maybe very high unknown numbers of universes there and many are being formed every moment but at a certain moment are there infinite number of universes?

No way to answer that till we have some way to observe them. We have difficulty observing within our current one.

It would thus likely remain a philosophical and conceptual exercise for the forseeable future.

Can possibilities be infinite?

Depends on the bounds and repeatability. If bounded and restricted to non-repeating (or ordered to enable count-ability) events, possibilities would be finite. Change either one, the possibilities become infinite. Even if you have just a binary event, if there is no structured rule on repeating/ordering, essentially its envelope is irrational, thus infinite (similar to why pi's exact numerical representation will never be established).

Something / infinity is not zero but a very small number. That's why we can say that 2/infinity >1/infinity....although theoretically both reduces to 0.

We can only talk about infinity operations w.r.t limits. Actual (numerical) division by infinity is not defined, because infinity itself is not a conventional number. When I say divide by infinity, I imply the limit. Thus your first statement is not valid, there can be no result other than 0, given in that case (non-zero amount) the limit has not reached infinity.
 
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US, India, Russia and many others are real.
 
Reality is as real as the word real in reality.

The idea that this is all a pre-programmed simulation is not something new but has been touted ever since time began.

The hardwired DNA and the subconsciousness are testament to the fact that already exist a flight plan for every existence in the universe.

Scary as it may seem it is quite comforting.
 
You sure they are not a creation of your imaginative mind? Do they exist without you?

Apart from religion, we could be living inside an atom of some real universe. We could be objects of some ones dream. We could be any thing.
 
we could be living in a simulation or a hologram of information on surface of black hole
 
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