Is Pakistan’s 'War on Terror' Out of Time?

[Hiptullha]

whole Pakistan is illegal concept... keep on supporting terrorism in kashmir and u will feel the same in ur country... its mutual ..

Pakistan was illegally formed while the process was carried out by the British, accepted by the Congress and voted in by millions of Muslims.

 

[Blue_Eyes]

Pakistan will never do that . and will alwasy support freedom fighters that are fighting in foreign occupation of kashmir .. we respect Freedom fighters and will keep funding them .... There are not Terrorist to us ..
As to TTP .. they are Funded by Ajit Doval as he has already confessed ... so what is this fuzz all about .. stop funding the Terrorists .. India is involved in it . and John Kerry has already given evidence to Modi .

I really want to know this-
Pakistan support a Free kashmir as a nation or As a part of Pakistan??[/b]

 

[Windjammer]

That fatigue won’t subside any time soon. Even if Pakistan can manage to get the insurgency under control, it could very easily regroup in Afghanistan or elsewhere. Eastern pressure from India, Pakistan’s military arch-rival, provides a constant distraction from the Western front, despite the resurgence of shuttle diplomacy surrounding the 2015 Cricket World Cup.

Had the Americans been firm in their commitment on the other side of the border, the menace of terrorism would have subsided by now, we all know how some wedding parties in Afghanistan were obliterated by American bombings only because some celebratory fire was mistakenly seen as hostile, yet several times hundred of terrorists mounted raids from Afghanistan on Pakistani posts and escape back to that country without the Americans noticing anything, It would also serve the purpose to pass on some advise to India but i guess the Indians have been taught lesson for their misadventures.

 

[Hiptullha]

Is Pakistan’s ‘War on Terror’ Out of Time? | The Diplomat

With Washington’s patience and money fading, is time running out for Pakistan’s offensive against domestic terrorism?

By Jack Detsch

Barely a month after Secretary of State John Kerry paid a surprise visit to Islamabad to parley with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, floating promises of emergency aid to fight militants, Congress has put its gripes with America’s fickle counterterrorism partner in ink. On February 12, the leaders of the U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs, California Republican Ed Royce and New York Democrat Eliot Engel, wrote a letter to Kerry, urging the State Department to consider travel bans, suspending assistance, and imposing sanctions on corrupt officials until Islamabad can regain the initiative against the Pakistani Taliban, Lashkar-e-Taiba, and the Haqqani network. “We appreciate that you and other senior-level Administration officials regularly raised the need to confront these groups with Pakistani officials,” Royce and Engel wrote, referencing Kerry’s January trip. “Yet it does not appear that this engagement has resulted in any real change in Pakistan’s policies.”

Royce and Engel’s concerns stemmed from Pakistan’s muted response to a Taliban attack on a school in Peshawar last December, which left almost 150 people dead. But just hours after Kerry received the note, events in Pakistan continued to inflame that argument. On February 13, three Taliban assailants hurled grenades, exchanged gunfire with police, and detonated a suicide vest at a Shia mosque in Peshawar, leaving 20 dead. The fundamentalists continued their attacks on February 17, when a suicide bomber blew himself up in a crowd of people in Lahore, killing five and injuring dozens more.

Those attacks come at a critical time in Pakistan’s fight against the militants. Since June, Islamabad has ramped up operations against Taliban enclaves in North Waziristan, a mountainous slice of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) where Sharif’s government exercises little formal control. Though the effort, dubbed Zarb-e-Azb, has been wracked with false starts and casualties, in welcoming Pakistan’s Interior Minister Ali Khan to Washington on Thursday, Kerry offered praise for the campaign. “They are committed to going after terrorists, all forms of extremism in Pakistan,” Kerry said. “And they are making good on that in their initiatives in the western part of the country and elsewhere, and in their cooperation on counterterrorism.”

But aside from the rhetoric, which has remained strikingly similar for the past eight years, what is Pakistan doing to fight the insurgency in concrete terms? Pakistan claims it has killed more than 2,000 militants since the offensive began in June, sustaining just 129 casualties of its own. Operations in North Waziristan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa have pushed militants from Al Qaeda, the Islamic State, and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan over the border into Afghanistan, where they’ve struggled to gain a foothold, clashing with Pashto-speaking tribes in their attempts to force civilians out of their homes.

Meanwhile, Pakistan’s military has gotten more adept at fighting insurgents from above: bombings in the Datta Khel area destroyed a terrorist hideout in January, killing 35 insurgents. Those efforts have been abetted by strikes from American predator drones, which have already claimed the lives of 27 militants this year. Islamabad continues to disavow that support, but seems to understand the gravity of the stakes in North Waziristan: the Zarb-e-Azb offensive has been bolstered by a surge of 170,000 troops on the Afghan border, almost a third of Pakistan’s entire military. Islamabad’s tussle with militants has claimed the lives of over 4,400 troops since 2002, nearly twice the number of American casualties in Afghanistan. While doubts about Pakistan’s commitment to the fight remain, there’s no underestimating Islamabad’s war weariness.

That fatigue won’t subside any time soon. Even if Pakistan can manage to get the insurgency under control, it could very easily regroup in Afghanistan or elsewhere. Eastern pressure from India, Pakistan’s military arch-rival, provides a constant distraction from the Western front, despite the resurgence of shuttle diplomacy surrounding the 2015 Cricket World Cup.

But if Pakistan wants help from the U.S. or anyone else in fighting the scourge of terror, they would do well to hurry up. Congress isn’t the only place where patience is waning: aid from the Kerry-Lugar-Berman act, Washington’s cash pipeline to Islamabad for counterterrorism operations, has dried up. Kerry promised another $250 million in January, far short of what’s needed to sustain a full-throated counterinsurgency operation. With President Obama increasingly looking towards Delhi as his chief partner in South Asia, Islamabad may be running out of time to take the fight to Islamic militants.

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The US partially succeeded in reaching their goals in Afghanistan after a decade-long occupation with billions of dollars spent and hundreds of lives lost. They understand that it will take time and have already recognized that Pakistan is beginning to tackle all terrorist groups. The US siding with India isn't due to Pakistan's failure to completely wipe out the insurgency, but because they're scared of China.
Also, you seem to be tagging all the Indian members while ignoring Pakistanis. What's the reason for this? Pakistanis can't contribute to a thread about Pakistan?

 

[Dem!god]

Pakistan was illegally formed while the process was carried out by the British, accepted by the Congress and voted in by millions of Muslims.

again... wrong history read... voting was only in NWFP..

 

[Hiptullha]

again... wrong history read... voting was only in NWFP..

Whatever you say. Still barely illegal when the British rulers themselves authorized partition.

 

[Dem!god]

Whatever you say. Still barely illegal when the British rulers themselves authorized partition.

ahh... yes, partition line was only drawn in punjab and bengal region, by redcliff, rest was through transfer of princely states and provinces... anyway. I can call the way i want to see, not the way you see

 

[Blue_Eyes]

The US siding with India isn't due to Pakistan's failure to completely wipe out the insurgency, but because they're scared of China.
Also, you seem to be tagging all the Indian members while ignoring Pakistanis. What's the reason for this? Pakistanis can't contribute to a thread about Pakistan?

Yep but US doesn't scare man, the only super power in the earth, china is extremely over hyped country specially in asia
Although I can't deny that china is an economic power, but still a long way to go to match with USA.
And as far as tagging members is concerned I have only tagged those whom I know or may be I have missed a few members but at last I have mentioned them with all friends
@Lord Zen I missed you to tag, you are also welcomed

 

[Windjammer]

lol... can't defend your country existence...

Only two countries in the world were ever purposely created.........Pakistan for Muslims, Israel for Jews.

 

[Lord ZeN]

Yep but US doesn't scare man, the only super power in the earth, china is extremely over hyped country specially in asia
Although I can't deny that china is an economic power, but still a long way to go to match with USA.
And as far as tagging members is concerned I have only tagged those whom I know or may be I have missed a few members but at last I have mentioned them with all friends
@Lord Zen I missed you to tag, you are also welcomed

@Blue_Eyes
Is time running out for Pakistan ? Well honestly i really don't know. But i don't really see any dedicated attempt by Pakistan to tackle this core issue of terrorism.One can argue, Operation zarb e azb is one such dedicated effort but in reality it won't solve the root cause which is Pakistan establishment trying to differentiate between terrorists
1)good terrorists & bad terrorists
2)my terrorist & their terrorists.
They usually fail to realize that a terrorist is a terrorist & should be treated like one. And off-course Religious bigotry there adds fuel to fire.

 

[karakoram]

whole Pakistan is illegal concept... keep on supporting terrorism in kashmir and u will feel the same in ur country... its mutual ..

Enjoy your ban again :-D :-D

 

[Pomegranate]

I really want to know this-
Pakistan support a Free kashmir as a nation or As a part of Pakistan??[/b]

Its a long debate and this has been discussed millions of time already on this forum ....

@Blue_Eyes
They usually fail to realize that a terrorist is a terrorist & should be treated like one. And off-course Religious bigotry there adds fuel to fire.

take a free advice dont be biased on this forum you are now a senior member i dont expect that from your side, we might have several groups here in Pakistan that are too funded by Your Ajit Doval he has confessed himself , than your Prime minister was involved in massacre of Gujarat why wont you take action ???? he is good now and cleaned up or what ??? argument can be made on both sides if you can quote one i can quote millions of them .. don't blame pakistan as a state for the rented Terrorists of Ajit doval

Dont take the name of the state Pakistan again you can take the names of Terror organization if you would do that we would take the name of India than ..

 

[Lord ZeN]

take a free advice dont be biased on this forum you are now a senior member i dont expect that from your side, we might have several groups here in Pakistan that are too funded by Your Ajit Doval he has confessed himself , than your Prime minister was involved in massacre of Gujarat why wont you take action ???? he is good now and cleaned up or what ??? argument can be made on both sides if you can quote one i can quote millions of them .. don't blame pakistan as a state for the rented Terrorists of Ajit doval

Dont take the name of the state Pakistan again you can take the names of Terror organization if you would do that we would take the name of India than ..

Well ..I'm just giving my honest view. I'm not saying that it's 100% true. I'm just saying what i feel is true. But in reality it may not be. I'm not providing any hard facts so it might be viewed as a biased comment. May be it is , after all we are arch enemies.

 

[Pomegranate]

Well ..I'm just giving my honest view. I'm not saying that it's 100% true. I'm just saying what i feel is true. But in reality it may not be. I'm not providing any hard facts so it might be viewed as biased comment. May be it is , after all we are arch enemies.

I have absolutely no problem my friend if you take the name of any Terror Organization, but dont take the name of Pakistan and blame it ?? this debate will get you no where you are senior member and example for junior members here and why would even you talk about Terror Groups within Pakistan when Ajit Doval Already said i am the one funding them ????

 

[Lord ZeN]

Ajit Doval Already said i am the one funding them ????

Actually Ajit Doval is a seasoned intelligence officer & he isn't that stupid to say anything like that openly.Actually Pakistan has no proof to show Indian support for various insurgent groups in Baluchistan. If your government had any , they would have already taken it up at an international level.