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Is Pakistan Worth America’s Investment?

I will keep this short, since PDF is not conducive to a calm discussion of Israel. This topic comes up every other month here, and the answer is always the same.

You are entirely right, your opponents are wrong.

We have veto power over their defense industries and foreign policy (and even, to some degree, their domestic policy, e.g. house building regulations). No American soldier has ever been sent to fight for Israel, and none ever will, unlike with our other allies. They anchor our interests in the region, often doing work that we cannot (help Jordan when it was invaded by Syria, bomb Osirak, bomb the Syrian reactor, etc.). Those are the "hard interests," the soft interests include intertwined economies, joint R&D, and shared Western values.

If we could pay our deadbeat NATO allies to defend themselves, it would be a bargain compared to the raw deal we have today (we pay instead of them, plus our troops are at risk), and our relationship with Israel is far more advantageous than our relationship with, say, the Philippines, who dislike us and kicked us out, but whom we are bound by treaty to defend. We have many "mutual defense" treaties, but does anyone seriously believe that Taiwan, Japan, Germany, etc. even has the capability to help the US if it is attacked in North America, let alone the will? At least with Israel, the responsibilities and expectations are symmetrical.

Israel serves our interests very well in the hierarchy of the alliance, it is one of the last allies I would look to eliminate.
I concur entirely. From a cost-benefit POV, Israel provides what few nations in the world can provide the US with.
Israel tries its best to make US follow its line and US tries its best to make Israel follow its line, its unfair for some to just blame Israel and say that it has a free ride with US. Both are rather intertwined that way.

The relation with Israel provides US what most of its 'allies' and aid receivers(both economic and military) do not provide in return.
 
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Pakistan shouldn't accept any kind of aid from the US. The money goes to the fat cats for doing America's bidding.

Agar yehi baat mai bolun, mera comment rate nai hota... :omghaha:
 
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For those who are not aware. If there was/is one country in S. Asia that believes in free market principles- it has ALWAYS been Pakistan.

How many here know that the laws in Pakistan are least intrusive to a business environment. During the heydays of US/ Pakistan relationship, Pakistan emulated much of our free market policies. Once the terrorism problem goes away, US companies will find the least amount of bureaucracy in S.Asia, within Pakistan. It has very progressive business laws.
 
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I want us to close down as many bases as possible.
let China and Russia fight over the Israelis and the Middle East
and they are double dipping anyways. pretty sure they have sold secrets to the Russians and the Chinese for decades.

but then again Zionist Jews do have a grasp on America politically and economically so it'll never happen anyhow.

You okay man this is something I was not expecting from you but you are right America needs a little of Me time where it solves its own problems first

For those who are not aware. If there was/is one country in S. Asia that believes in free market principles- it has ALWAYS been Pakistan.

How many here know that the laws in Pakistan are least intrusive to a business environment. During the heydays of US/ Pakistan relationship, Pakistan emulated much of our free market policies. Once the terrorism problem goes away, US companies will find the least amount of bureaucracy in S.Asia, within Pakistan. It has very progressive business laws.

LOL that was in the 60s things have changed now
 
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US aid to Israel like US aid to NATO buys US a lot of influence in that region and gives it a safe base and capability to operate in the Middle East at possibly the most crucial location.
Apart from that it ensures that Israeli technology remains in American hands and away from Russia and China - both of whom would love to take up Israeli engineers and technology products.

US aid to Israel is going down the drain. Its not aid anymore. Its blackmail from Israel. By supporting Israel, US has lost a position of prominence in middle east. If that is what you meant by buying influence.
 
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