Is " Nice Attack" part 2 of the Western conspiracy to declare the Muslim world a terrorist?

[Trango Towers]

What's your take on returning Abhinandan... who was part of same country, whom you call rapxx.
Most likely Abhinandan has raped 100s of girls using his authority, but apparently he commanded far authority in Pakistan. He was given a suit, security but sadly no media while crossing back to India.

I think to this day Abinandhan has kept his word. He said he will not speak badly about Pakistan and its treatment of him. He is more honorable than Nawaz sharif who wanted his chief of staff to land in India and stole billions. Have a nice day

 

[Joe Shearer]

extremely poorly written 1/10.

wonder how professor @Joe Shearer would grade your effort

I would rather not. Content as well as presentation fail to be pass-worthy.

got a question though... what exactly did you mean by:

"Hitler rightly said that at the end of every sedition I pursue, there must be some Jew. "

??

= At the end of every conspiracy theory of this sort, there is either a Yahood or a Hanood.

Do u even know the difference between Vedas and seeta

Hindus know; Hindutvavadis don't.

when you have no knowledge its better to read and learn.

Ironic, in the context mentioned above.

 

[Trango Towers]

I would rather not. Content as well as presentation fail to be pass-worthy.



= At the end of every conspiracy theory of this sort, there is either a Yahood or a Hanood.


Hindus know; Hindutvavadis don't.



Ironic, in the context mentioned above.

Hi Joe...well said..I agree re the difference between hindu and Hindu tva

 

[Indus Pakistan]

If Muslim Leaders are making this an issue between Muslims and the West, why should the West disagree?

I think leaders like Imran Khan and Erdogan are only asking for some understanding being shown towards certain sentiments Muslims hold dear. Now is this asking for something exceptional? Not really. Many Europpean countries have restricted freedoms in order to protect the sentiment of Jewish communities. For instance I cannot deny holocaust in France. The law is used to lock me into a certain rendition that is acceptable to the Jewish community and limits my freedom as that will hurt Jewish sentiments - justifiably by the way.

The Gayssot Act or Gayssot Law (French: Loi Gayssot), enacted on 13 July 1990, makes it an offense in France to question the existence or size of the category of crimes against humanity as defined in the London Charter of 1945, on the basis of which Nazi leaders were convicted by the International Military Tribunal at ...

France upholds law singling out Holocaust-denial as crime ...
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8 Jan 2016 — A math teacher fired after being convicted of Holocaust denial had challenged the law, saying it unfairly punished only those disputing or denying ...

 

[Vikki]

If I am not mistaken, the Quran states that killing one innocent, is like killing all Humanity.
Is there any place in the Quran where Muhammad states that insulting him is worse than killing all humanity?
Muhammad was against idolizing him.
I certainly think putting him on a piedestal is exactly what he wanted to avoid.

@Mods..am only answering this brothers questions to give him the information he asked for..plz don't delete this post saying I am doing religious discussion..the brother asked a very good question and I have to answer it.

@A.P. Richelieu Although there is a verse in Quran which states killing one man is like killing all humans...but the context is different...it was actually a jewish instruction that was just mentioned in quran in certain context....The said verse is from chapter 5 verse 32 ..let me quote it for you

" That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.1 ˹Although˺ Our messengers already came to them with clear proofs, many of them still transgressed afterwards through the land. "(Quran 5-32)
The context of this passage is Allah is telling the story of Adam's two sons and how one son(cain) killed the other(abel).
It is in this context Allah says that he ordained israelites that killing innocent is killing all humanity...This story with those exact words was already present in Talmud(jewish law). Let me quote a commentary of the same from Talmud .

" We find it said in the case of Cain who murdered his brother, ’the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth out’ and he says, ’it does not sayeth he hath blood in the singular, but bloods in the plural.’ Thou was created single in order to show that to him who kills a single individual, it should be reckoned that he has slain the whole race. But to him who has preserved the life of a single individual, it is counted that he has preserved the whole race. "

I will quote you a verse from the same chapter how allah instructs directly to muslims.
"O believers! When you rise up for prayer, wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, wipe your heads, and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of ˹full˺ impurity,1 then take a full bath. But if you are ill, on a journey, or have relieved yourselves, or have been intimate with your wives and cannot find water, then purify yourselves with clean earth by wiping your faces and hands.2 It is not Allah’s Will to burden you, but to purify you and complete His favour upon you, so perhaps you will be grateful. "(Quran 5:6).
Wherever Allah has commanded.instructed or advised muslims directly he says, " O you believers" followed by the command.

This so called killing humanity verse is actually an instruction given to Jews .
coming to next part of your question ,"Is there any place in the Quran where Muhammad states that insulting him is worse than killing all humanity?"
Ironically, the verse next verse that follows this killing humanity verse mentions death to people who insults allah or his messenger.

" Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief in the land is death, crucifixion, cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, or exile from the land. This ˹penalty˺ is a disgrace for them in this world, and they will suffer a tremendous punishment in the Hereafter." Quran chapter 5, verse 33.

This verse is used to justify the killings of anyone who insults Mohammad .
Hope I answered your question.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Hi Joe...well said..I agree re the difference between hindu and Hindu tva

Be careful of their narrative building. They do so at our expense.

Appreciate the effort of @FAROOQ RASHID BUTT in countering the propaganda against Islam.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

@Mods..am only answering this brothers questions to give him the information he asked for..plz don't delete this post saying I am doing religious discussion..the brother asked a very good question and I have to answer it.

@A.P. Richelieu Although there is a verse in Quran which states killing one man is like killing all humans...but the context is different...it was actually a jewish instruction that was just mentioned in quran in certain context....The said verse is from chapter 5 verse 32 ..let me quote it for you

" That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.1 ˹Although˺ Our messengers already came to them with clear proofs, many of them still transgressed afterwards through the land. "(Quran 5-32)
The context of this passage is Allah is telling the story of Adam's two sons and how one son(cain) killed the other(abel).
It is in this context Allah says that he ordained israelites that killing innocent is killing all humanity...This story with those exact words was already present in Talmud(jewish law). Let me quote a commentary of the same from Talmud .

" We find it said in the case of Cain who murdered his brother, ’the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth out’ and he says, ’it does not sayeth he hath blood in the singular, but bloods in the plural.’ Thou was created single in order to show that to him who kills a single individual, it should be reckoned that he has slain the whole race. But to him who has preserved the life of a single individual, it is counted that he has preserved the whole race. "

I will quote you a verse from the same chapter how allah instructs directly to muslims.
"O believers! When you rise up for prayer, wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, wipe your heads, and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of ˹full˺ impurity,1 then take a full bath. But if you are ill, on a journey, or have relieved yourselves, or have been intimate with your wives and cannot find water, then purify yourselves with clean earth by wiping your faces and hands.2 It is not Allah’s Will to burden you, but to purify you and complete His favour upon you, so perhaps you will be grateful. "(Quran 5:6).
Wherever Allah has commanded.instructed or advised muslims directly he says, " O you believers" followed by the command.

This so called killing humanity verse is actually an instruction given to Jews .
coming to next part of your question ,"Is there any place in the Quran where Muhammad states that insulting him is worse than killing all humanity?"
Ironically, the verse next verse that follows this killing humanity verse mentions death to people who insults allah or his messenger.

" Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief in the land is death, crucifixion, cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, or exile from the land. This ˹penalty˺ is a disgrace for them in this world, and they will suffer a tremendous punishment in the Hereafter." Quran chapter 5, verse 33.

This verse is used to justify the killings of anyone who insults Mohammad .
Hope I answered your question.

Having seen most of the pictures beeing debated, I would say that they do not ”make war” against Allah or Muhammed, but they are harshly criticizing the behaviour of many (bad) Muslims.
Valid criticism cannot be construed as mischief.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Guys if you have a chance, check out this excellent analysis by Imran Riaz Khan.

 

[Vortex]

Guys if you have a chance, check out this excellent analysis by Imran Riaz Khan.

There is an error in what Imran Khan Riaz said. But here it is what is civilized manner to behave. Do not kill, just show your power by boycotting if you want. It’s part of geopolitical game.

after all “sanctions” are imposed on countries who disagree with western countries. But do not kill ! It doesn’t serve the purpose for which you fight.


I was talking about an error. It’s the fact that since several days french authorities already said in French it’s not war on Islam or against Muslims. But on whom use Islam to kill, the extremists who kill. But as it was said in French nobody or very few understood it. Maybe Macron read my posts ( I’m jocking). And discovered that he has to reach Muslims in their countries to explain it.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Hi Joe...well said..I agree re the difference between hindu and Hindu tva

I am personally a Hindu in some ways - it is difficult to go into detail - but have preferred to label myself agnostic, even atheist, to get away from the embarrassment of being clubbed with the slobbering animals who are Hindutvavadis. They are so utterly despicable.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

I am personally a Hindu in some ways - it is difficult to go into detail - but have preferred to label myself agnostic, even atheist, to get away from the embarrassment of being clubbed with the slobbering animals who are Hindutvavadis. They are so utterly despicable.

You were always anti-Hindu.

You just needed a reason to give up Hinduism.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You were always anti-Hindu.

You just needed a reason to give up Hinduism.

How would you know? It is doubtful that you even begin to comprehend Hinduism in the first place; for you, it is a political set of beliefs, and has nothing to do with the realm of the spirit. A mere sampling of your posts will show in clear and bright relief what you stand for. Conversely for my posts.

So shut your mouth and go out and slaughter a few more unarmed Muslims or Dalits - preferably women of a young age, whom you can rape before killing; that is all that you and your brand of Hindu are good for.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

How would you know? It is doubtful that you even begin to comprehend Hinduism in the first place; for you, it is a political set of beliefs, and has nothing to do with the realm of the spirit. A mere sampling of your posts will show in clear and bright relief what you stand for. Conversely for my posts.

So shut your mouth and go out and slaughter a few more unarmed Muslims or Dalits - preferably women of a young age, whom you can rape before killing; that is all that you and your brand of Hindu are good for.

Your anti-Hinduism is on full display in most of your posts.

Have you liked one thing about Hinduism in all your life? I do not think so.

You mind and heart is filled with contempt and hate for Hinduism.

You curse every moment of your life for being born as a Hindu and you will die a sad man.

It is not the the religion which is the problem but your hate has consumed you.

You will never be at peace. Not when you are alive. Not when you are dead.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Your anti-Hinduism is on full display in most of your posts.

Of course, the typical spittle-flecked wild rant with no proof. But evidence doesn't matter, does it?

Have you liked one thing about Hinduism in all your life? I do not think so.

LOL. Is your opinion, and your 'thinking' worth anything?

You mind and heart is filled with contempt and hate for Hinduism.

How quaint. You now claim the ability to look inside people's minds and hearts. The truly awful prospect is of any normal human being who has the awful fate of getting an insight into your mind and heart.

You curse every moment of your life for being born as a Hindu and you will die a sad man.

Indeed. You know all about it, from your superior understanding. Very convincing.

It is not the the religion which is the problem but your hate has consumed you.

It was never the religion, it was always the degraded specimens that defiled it. Need a mirror?

You will never be at peace. Not when you are alive. Not when you are dead.

So sorry to disappoint you. I am perfectly at peace. Isn't it sad that your post shows that you cannot say the same for yourself?

Your anti-Hinduism is on full display in most of your posts.

Have you liked one thing about Hinduism in all your life? I do not think so.

You mind and heart is filled with contempt and hate for Hinduism.

You curse every moment of your life for being born as a Hindu and you will die a sad man.

It is not the the religion which is the problem but your hate has consumed you.

You will never be at peace. Not when you are alive. Not when you are dead.

I quote your entire post with some satisfaction. It so effectively makes my point about the creatures that count themselves among the Hindutva crowd, not among the Hindus. The two are oil and water. They can never mix. You will never be a Hindu, no matter how much you shout and scream about your belief in it, without understanding a word of it.

Hi Joe...well said..I agree re the difference between hindu and Hindu tva

It is seldom our good luck to be given a living, breathing example to support our mails. How lucky am I to have got a specimen! If you have watched that over the top recreation of mediaeval European history called Game of Thrones, you might have seen the scene where a sample of the living dead, a wight, was produced before the queen, for her to believe that those things existed.

Somebody helped me out, voluntarily, with no coercion whatsoever, and his poisonous outpourings are available on record.

Lucky me.

 

[Trango Towers]

I am personally a Hindu in some ways - it is difficult to go into detail - but have preferred to label myself agnostic, even atheist, to get away from the embarrassment of being clubbed with the slobbering animals who are Hindutvavadis. They are so utterly despicable.

Faith is personal.