Is CPEC a Problem for India ? Enough is Enough india

[shahbaz baig]

The days of road transports are long gone.. Sea routes are super cheap & time saving compared to train & road transports..
For example.. If China needs to transport it goods to Europe, one container ship will carry 15000 to 18000 containers in one go.. You need 18000 trucks, to do the same if you use the road transport & more than 30 train services are needed ,if you use train transport..
Ships uses much much less cost.. How??
I will explain.. The man power required for transportation is much lower.. A container ship needs only 13-18 people onboard.. While you need (15000 drivers+ helpers) for transporting same through road.. You need 1000 of manpower if you use rail as train tracks need constant maintanance.. Their food,salary etc.. Then fuel cost.. Ships uses heavy fuel oil as the fuel of engine.. It's a very very low cost seems like bitumen used for road construction.. Also fuel required in low quantity in Sea..
That is why each & every major manufacturering & exporting cities are Port cities.. The more you need road transport, your competitiveness will decreases..

keep your suggestion to your self instead tell your Govt don't do stupidity and join Pakistan otherwise there will be definitely horrible war between india and pak-china

 

[BHarwana]

keep your suggestion to your self instead tell your Govt don't do stupidity and join Pakistan otherwise there will be definitely horrible war between india and pak

They are desperate to join. Sending good to Kabul via Iran is hell of expensive but sending from Lahore from motor way to Kabul is way less expensive so Indian good to Afghanistan expensive and Pak goods cheap India lose in trade.

 

[MilSpec]

The days of road transports are long gone.. Sea routes are super cheap & time saving compared to train & road transports..
For example.. If China needs to transport it goods to Europe, one container ship will carry 15000 to 18000 containers in one go.. You need 18000 trucks, to do the same if you use the road transport & more than 30 train services are needed ,if you use train transport..
Ships uses much much less cost.. How??
I will explain.. The man power required for transportation is much lower.. A container ship needs only 13-18 people onboard.. While you need (15000 drivers+ helpers) for transporting same through road.. You need 1000 of manpower if you use rail as train tracks need constant maintanance.. Their food,salary etc.. Then fuel cost.. Ships uses heavy fuel oil as the fuel of engine.. It's a very very low cost seems like bitumen used for road construction.. Also fuel required in low quantity in Sea..
That is why each & every major manufacturering & exporting cities are Port cities.. The more you need road transport, your competitiveness will decreases..

Logic has and will never work in such threads dear.

 

[shahbaz baig]

They are desperate to join. Sending good to Kabul via Iran is hell of expensive but sending from Lahore from motor way to Kabul is way less expensive so Indian good to Afghanistan expensive and Pak goods cheap India lose in trade.

there should be alot of many things that pakistan cant trade with Afghanistan. and India can trade with afghanistan via Pakistan

 

[BHarwana]

there should be alot of many things that pakistan cant trade with Afghanistan. and India can trade with afghanistan via Pakistan

Afghanistan has started to take a shape of a country at the moment they require less things that India can Provide and Pakistan cannot.

 

[Leviza]

Since when is china a part of the kashmir dispute?
The dispute between our two countries extend only to the valley not Jammu and ladakh .

thats is your delusion

dispute is about jammu and kashmir .. if you know anything about UNO resolution which your media and education system never educate you about

 

[Thevar]

keep your suggestion to your self instead tell your Govt don't do stupidity and join Pakistan otherwise there will be definitely horrible war between india and pak-china

ROFL.....another pakistani living abroad....promoting war.....

Hows the weather in Netherlands mate? :p

I take it you dint read about the new china- india high level meeting ? yeah...im guessing they were discussing on how to break up yer country between themselves. [ did this help yer paranoia more ? ]

thats is your delusion

dispute is about jammu and kashmir .. if you know anything about UNO resolution which your media and education system never educate you about

Have you ACTUALLY read the resolution mate ???

 

[NOWorNEVER]

The days of road transports are long gone.. Sea routes are super cheap & time saving compared to train & road transports..
For example.. If China needs to transport it goods to Europe, one container ship will carry 15000 to 18000 containers in one go.. You need 18000 trucks, to do the same if you use the road transport & more than 30 train services are needed ,if you use train transport..
Ships uses much much less cost.. How??
I will explain.. The man power required for transportation is much lower.. A container ship needs only 13-18 people onboard.. While you need (15000 drivers+ helpers) for transporting same through road.. You need 1000 of manpower if you use rail as train tracks need constant maintanance.. Their food,salary etc.. Then fuel cost.. Ships uses heavy fuel oil as the fuel of engine.. It's a very very low cost seems like bitumen used for road construction.. Also fuel required in low quantity in Sea..
That is why each & every major manufacturering & exporting cities are Port cities.. The more you need road transport, your competitiveness will decreases..

Time is money.. Which You cannot buy.
Second, 12000x extra Km route means more fuel cost, more risk of disaster (geo-political and natural), more insurance cost, freight duties, expensive labour crew and shipping staff... and on and on and on.... Just do research and do not give your incompetent advice to China, who knows much better than you jealous Endians...

 

[shahbaz baig]

I take it you dint read about the new china- india high level meeting ? yeah...im guessing they were discussing on how to break up yer country between themselves. [ did this help yer paranoia more ? ]

i guess you are talking about this high level meeting
India’s concerns over CPEC ‘unwarranted’: Chinese state media

Have you ACTUALLY read the resolution mate ???

Now our concern of discussing Resolution is changed. it`s do or die situation and india is imposing war.

 

[T90TankGuy]

dont try to stick out the topic. neither India border belong to OBOR nor with CPEC. why you always poke your nose ??

You are not making much sense . its you who says we are involved , yet no one in your own govt has ever produced one iota of proof towards such a claim . not one iota mind you!!! none have been given before any international body .

The best thing you can do is to urge your govt to do so and come forward with the so called proof of any involvement , feel free to refute me with facts.

thats is your delusion

dispute is about jammu and kashmir .. if you know anything about UNO resolution which your media and education system never educate you about

The dispute originates from the claim that Muslim dominated regions should have been in Pakistan , jammu in case you haven't read is predominantly been Hindu . Now i do know the education i have , but not too sure about yours, so may i suggest you read up a bit.

 

[JohnyD]

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Have you ACTUALLY read the resolution mate ???

those who quote UN resolution on Kashmir ve not actually read it carefully....when we ask them this question, they go and read it and realize, that its not worth quoting!

 

[shahbaz baig]

You are not making much sense . its you who says we are involved , yet no one in your own govt has ever produced one iota of proof towards such a claim . not one iota mind you!!! none have been given before any international body .

The best thing you can do is to urge your govt to do so and come forward with the so called proof of any involvement , feel free to refute me with facts.


The dispute originates from the claim that Muslim dominated regions should have been in Pakistan , jammu in case you haven't read is predominantly been Hindu . Now i do know the education i have , but not too sure about yours, so may i suggest you read up a bit.

if i am not making sense according to you i believe you will surely accept your own indian defence Minister


https://tribune.com.pk/story/890871...minister-outlines-strategy-for-new-proxy-war/

Former Indian COAS Basically Admits the Cause of Terrorism Inside Pakistan (Just watch the video and listen his statements)

http://arynews.tv/en/this-video-of-...lve-the-mystery-behind-terrorism-in-pakistan/

Also Include Ajit Doval


they actually did what he said "Proxy War", in Pakistan without knowing that Pak establishment was not a part whatever were happening in india and Indian defense Minister Probably designed policy to directly target Pakistan State, Army and soft target by Sponsoring Terrorist Organization instead of targeting the actual terrorist Groups inside india and Pakistan. they are directly involved in State Terrorism

Canadian Author about terrorist Groups in Pak & india

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/natio...roups-in-india-and-pakistan-to-terrorist-list

if there are terrorist Groups inside india or Pak no matter what Religion they belong. they should be eradicated. but the matter is india always keep demanding to take action against terrorist group in Pakistan but they dont want to take action in india against terrorist group instead india support them sponsor them against Pakistan..

Now if you see what is actually the matter. you will find that neither Pak nor India wanted to tackle terrorist Groups in their country because if they do there will be anarchy in their country despite the threat of anarchy Pakistan have been Countering terrorist group in Pakistan bit by bit. there is not a single country who can counter them but Pakistan alone did it in Zarb-e-Azab operation.. Unfortunately India don't want peace or prosperity in Pakistan and india started "proxy war" by the help of terrorist groups. all the neutral Analyst in world have same thinking that india is behind terrorism in Pakistan. Pakistan don't support any terrorist Organization we are the actual biggest victim of terrorism we have lost 70 thousand innocent lives against war and terror but we cant take action on every terrorist organization at the same time because we don't wanna put our country in anarchy and we also don't have enough budget. you have to accept that India hates Pakistan too much just because of Kashmir.

Now if you still dont understand then no one can interpret you. Your MODI is imposing war on Pakistan Day by Day. and he used to propagate against Pakistan during Election and he won. i can give you the surety that Modi including trump will be the responsible of WW3.

We are keep on saying to our Govt that take action against india but they want friendship with india. it is a time for you to tell your Govt that dont do stupidity against Pak or else there will be surely war

 

[T90TankGuy]

if i am not making sense according to you i believe you will surely accept your own indian defence Minister


https://tribune.com.pk/story/890871...minister-outlines-strategy-for-new-proxy-war/

Former Indian COAS Basically Admits the Cause of Terrorism Inside Pakistan (Just watch the video and listen his statements)

http://arynews.tv/en/this-video-of-...lve-the-mystery-behind-terrorism-in-pakistan/

Also Include Ajit Doval


they actually did what he said "Proxy War", in Pakistan without knowing that Pak establishment was not a part whatever were happening in india and Indian defense Minister Probably designed policy to directly target Pakistan State, Army and soft target by Sponsoring Terrorist Organization instead of targeting the actual terrorist Groups inside india and Pakistan. they are directly involved in State Terrorism

Canadian Author about terrorist Groups in Pak & india

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/natio...roups-in-india-and-pakistan-to-terrorist-list

if there are terrorist Groups inside india or Pak no matter what Religion they belong. they should be eradicated. but the matter is india always keep demanding to take action against terrorist group in Pakistan but they dont want to take action in india against terrorist group instead india support them sponsor them against Pakistan..

Now if you see what is actually the matter. you will find that neither Pak nor India wanted to tackle terrorist Groups in their country because if they do there will be anarchy in their country despite the threat of anarchy Pakistan have been Countering terrorist group in Pakistan bit by bit. there is not a single country who can counter them but Pakistan alone did it in Zarb-e-Azab operation.. Unfortunately India don't want peace or prosperity in Pakistan and india started "proxy war" by the help of terrorist groups. all the neutral Analyst in world have same thinking that india is behind terrorism in Pakistan. Pakistan don't support any terrorist Organization we are the actual biggest victim of terrorism we have lost 70 thousand innocent lives against war and terror but we cant take action on every terrorist organization at the same time because we don't wanna put our country in anarchy and we also don't have enough budget. you have to accept that India hates Pakistan too much just because of Kashmir.

Now if you still dont understand then no one can interpret you. Your MODI is imposing war on Pakistan Day by Day. and he used to propagate against Pakistan during Election and he won. i can give you the surety that Modi including trump will be the responsible of WW3.

We are keep on saying to our Govt that take action against india but they want friendship with india. it is a time for you to tell your Govt that dont do stupidity against Pak or else there will be surely war

Its obvious you do not understand the difference between a politician making tall claims to reality . but i digress , tell your govt to produce proof in-front of the international community , we are not responsible for your delusions !!!
As for war , are you a kid or something? do you really thing that countries go to war without reason ? if that was the case we would have had one long ago.
By the way is it my imagination or is it that your army is involved on the wrong front? if they blamed India wouldn't they be attacking us? May i suggest You ask your own govt some hard questions.
If there was such a spate of attacks in India as we have unfortunately seen in Pakistan in the past few weeks the govt would have fallen a long time ago . stop not holding your own elected representatives to account

 

[shahbaz baig]

Its obvious you do not understand the difference between a politician making tall claims to reality . but i digress , tell your govt to produce proof in-front of the international community , we are not responsible for your delusions !!!
As for war , are you a kid or something? do you really thing that countries go to war without reason ? if that was the case we would have had one long ago.
By the way is it my imagination or is it that your army is involved on the wrong front? if they blamed India wouldn't they be attacking us? May i suggest You ask your own govt some hard questions.
If there was such a spate of attacks in India as we have unfortunately seen in Pakistan in the past few weeks the govt would have fallen a long time ago . stop not holding your own elected representatives to account

i knew it you will never accept the crime of your so called politicians. your politicians directly threaten to Pakistan and you still want proof. how disgusting people you are. instead of stopping your govt by spreading the hates in public against Pakistan your are advising me. listen gentleman Pak Govt still don't want any war but how long???? there will be surely a war if you people dont stop MODI from his retarded statements, allegations and implementation against PAK.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Cpec is not just a project.india knows that it will generate revenue and there are so many problems on the indian side regarding cpec.problem is when they were changing infrastructure of their side of kashmir,we didn't urge them to stop.indian policy makers are free to try anything but they just can't control our side of kashmir.now it's our turn.we can do whatever we want in azad kashmir.to be fair,it poses significant threat to indians.chinese presence in azad kashmir will deter any ambitious move by indian army.china already seal the deal for sri lankan and bangladesh ports and now gwadar! basically china is encircling india from every direction and they know it! as far as their ambitions of a naval blockade of karachi,another question might come to their minds! what if pakistan navy play a major role in the coming years and naval blockade of india itself becomes a reality? pakistan can do this blockade because gwadar sits not very far from strait of hormuz.india is in serious trouble and they know it.i feel very sorry for indians but it's not pakistan,it's indians who fought one war with china and 3 with us.they are surrounded by enemies.