Is China inserting itself into the Taiwan-Philippines spat?

[Zero_wing]

We need use force to teach those ph idiots a lesson, who use heavy weapons at first to kill the fisherman.

Come and do it too bad your not part of government though

 

[Zero_wing]

 

[p3avi8tor69]

Your poster matches your unfortunate state of mind. You need major help.

 

[Zero_wing]

Your poster matches your unfortunate state of mind. You need major help.

Wow the majority of chinese forumers are advocating for world war 3 and you think i need help? Man i love you admiral general you far better then those chekwa clowns

 

[walle]

Wow the majority of chinese forumers are advocating for world war 3 and you think i need help? Man i love you admiral general you far better then those chekwa clowns

Not ww3, just enought to squish pinoys like a fly.

 

[Genesis]

why do you keep posting this? Do you know what kind of people have these kind of signs on their fence? Let's ignore the fact that Philippines have practically no navy.

Just the fact that we are educated, at least I am, means that we should use force as a last resort. You don't have to shoot after you been shot at, but you don't have to shoot at first sight.

You complain about Chinese aggression, but at least we never fire, you think our weapons are less potent that yours? No, we are a civilized nation that don't go around shooting unarmed fisherman.

For the record, Taiwan spends about 5 times your annual defense spending while having twice your force.

 

[Zero_wing]

Not ww3, just enought to squish pinoys like a fly.

Mali pa spelling ya right!

 

[Zero_wing]

So they can't even keep their jets flying you never fired yes but you ram our ships just ask those filipino fishermen oh wait most of them are dead one missing and just like in Japan, Korea etc. you steal from us to just like in Japan and Korea (i know again but its true) and Africa and i know what your going to say but i don't care let me be clear on that! Because everything i say is true and they your allies or partners whatever but the true is your robbing them blind as for civilized are kidding me! please you killing billions through your 5,000 year existence just ask the Tibetans, the Uygers and the rest of your other minorities heck as the Vietnamese and ask Mao victims during his rule as for the poacher it was real unfortunate but the idea that we killed him for real is stupid one they fish on our waters the Indonesia crew said so regardless of the things Taiwan come up with they are the one lying one its in Batanes a Province of the Philippines its not even EZZ anymore so why are fishing there and really if i was the coast guard why just shoot you in the engine room? if i wanted to kill and why are the rest of the crew alive then? i mean after attempt to ram our ship they ran so naturally a chase followed suit and a moving ship on water is hard target to hit sir but the target is the engine room to stop the ship so in conclusion taiwan is just running this to gain some sympathy not to the International community but to the taiwnese voting public in fact the President apologies for the lost of life and the taiwanese media did not write or posted it in fact they just run this story to generate anger and the poor foreign worker not just filipinos are getting beaten up civilized ya right did you hear us beating up chinese here? nope even if majority of foreign commented crimes here are commented by taiwanese and mainlanders? Really who's uncivilized now? face it you people are trouble makers in the Asia. So the sign stays

 

[longyi]

South China Sea tension mounts near Filipino shipwreck

BRP Sierra Madre shipwreck that Philippines intentionally grounded.

Renai Shoal, also known as Second Thomas Shoal, in the Spratly Islands.



(Reuters) - A wrecked navy transport ship perched on a remote coral reef could be the next flashpoint in the South China Sea, where China and five other claimants bitterly dispute territory.

The Philippine government is accusing China of encroachment after three Chinese ships, including a naval frigate, converged just 5 nautical miles from an old transport ship that the Philippines deliberately ran aground on a reef in 1999 to mark its territory.

Philippine officials say they fear the Chinese ships will block supplies to about a dozen Filipino marines stationed in abject conditions on the rusting ship, raising tensions over one of Asia's biggest security issues.

The area, known as Second Thomas Shoal, is a strategic gateway to Reed Bank, believed to be rich in oil and natural gas. In 2010, Manila awarded an Anglo-Filipino consortium a license to explore for gas on Reed Bank but drilling stalled last year due to the presence of Chinese ships.

Manila says Reed Bank, about 80 nautical miles west of Palawan island at the southwestern end of the Philippine archipelago, is within the country's 200-nautical mile exclusive economic zone.

Beijing says it is part of the Spratlys, a group of 250 uninhabitable islets spread over 165,000 square miles, claimed entirely by China, Taiwan and Vietnam and in part by Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines.

"China should pull out of the area because under international law, they do not have the right to be there," said Raul Hernandez, a spokesman for the Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs, noting the area's proximity to Palawan, the country's largest province.

He said the Chinese ships were a "provocation and illegal presence".

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said on Tuesday the Second Thomas Shoal was part of the Spratly Islands, over which China had "indisputable sovereignty".

"It is beyond reproach for Chinese boats to carry out patrols in these waters," Hong said, adding China called on all parties to "refrain from taking actions that complicate the situation".

The tension illustrates how a decades-old territorial squabble over the South China Sea is entering a more contentious chapter as claimant nations spread deeper into disputed waters in search of energy supplies, while building up navies and alliances with other nations.

Second Thomas Shoal is one of several possible flashpoints in the South China Sea that could force the United States to intervene in defense of its Southeast Asian allies.

The tension comes just before U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel meets his Asia-Pacific counterparts at the so-called Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore at the weekend. The South China Sea is on the agenda of the regional security forum.

"CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER"

Philippine authorities say the three Chinese ships arrived in Second Thomas Shoal on or around May 8, escorting a fleet of 30 fishing boats. Two days later, the Philippines formally lodged a protest with China over the vessels.

As of Tuesday, two Chinese marine surveillance ships remained in the area, Philippine navy spokesman Colonel Edgardo Arevalo said. The fishing boats and the frigate had left, he said.

"The presence of those ships is a clear and present danger," said another senior Philippine navy officer, who declined to be identified as he is not authorized to speak to the media. He said the Philippines believed China was trying to pressure it to leave the shoal.

"We don't want to wake up one day with fresh structures sitting near our navy ship there. We have to bite the bullet and strengthen our position there or risk losing the territory."

The wrecked U.S.-built ship, the BRP Sierra Madre, is among Asia's loneliest military outposts. The ship was launched in World War Two, saw action in Okinawa and was used again in the Vietnam War. It was transferred to the Philippine government in 1976 under a military assistance program.

Soldiers are equipped with a small generator for cooking. Radios are battery-powered and supplies are delivered by boat.

"They want us out of the area," another Philippine navy officer said of China.

The Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN), a 10-nation grouping that includes the Philippines, has been talking to China about a binding code of conduct to ease tension. But China says it will negotiate "when the time is ripe".

ASEAN foreign ministers are due to meet in Thailand in August to forge a position on the code of conduct before meeting Chinese officials in late August or early September in Beijing.

The easternmost territory held by China is Mischief Reef, about 65 km (40 miles) northwest of Second Thomas Shoal. China occupied it in 1995. The Philippines occupied Second Thomas Reef with the BRP Sierra Madre in 1999, preventing China moving further east.

In March, Malaysia protested against the incursion of four Chinese ships in James Shoal, about 80 km (50 miles) off Sarawak on Borneo island. Chinese sailors fired guns in the air during the visit to the shoal. Last month, a Chinese maritime surveillance ship returned to James Shoal to leave behind steel markers to assert its claim.

RISK OF MISCALCULATION

Zha Daojiong, an international relations professor at Beijing's Peking University, said China was serious about asserting its claims in the South China Sea and it was important the region did not misunderstand this.

"There is now a quiet agreement among different Chinese voices that sometimes you have to act as well as issuing statements," he said. China would, however, never completely close the door on possible co-operation.

Ian Storey, a scholar at Singapore's Institute of South East Asian Studies, said tension at Second Thomas Shoal could prove more dangerous than last year's stand-off at unoccupied Scarborough Shoal, given the presence of Filipino troops.

"It is hard to imagine China using force to gain full control over Second Thomas, but some kind of blockade to drive out the Philippines' troops would have to be a possibility," Storey said. "There is a real chance of escalation or miscalculation."

South China Sea tension mounts near Filipino shipwreck | Reuters


This's the next target after the occupation of Huangyan Island last year. Instead of negotiation with China Noy Noy boasted he's going to fight to the last Filipino after Uncle Sam dumped him.

Such a ballsy man for a President! I wonder which way he's leading the Philippines toward.

 

[Zero_wing]

hay nako gago talaga oo

 

[ephone]

Why don't you shoot at our ships now??? They are right where the fishing boat was.

Only know how to shoot at fishing boats???

You pathetic losers.

 

[Zero_wing]

Why don't you shoot at our ships now??? They are right where the fishing boat was.

Only know how to shoot at fishing boats???

You pathetic losers.

Try to ram our navy and coast guard ship son of a ho and sore lose and resident stinker

 

[ephone]

does your rusty boats need to be rammed???

It will sink by itself.

Good luck, SOB of maids.

Try to ram our navy and coast guard ship son of a ho and sore lose and resident stinker

 

[Zero_wing]

does your rusty boats need to be rammed???

It will sink by itself.

Good luck, SOB of maids.

So you admit that you kind ram ship well that's good to hear at less a little hope for your kind thanks son of a ho oh right tell your mom to give you an extra one dollar and also your sister and your grandma oh she still complain about the back pay the Japanese owe her?

does your rusty boats need to be rammed???

It will sink by itself.

Good luck, SOB of maids.

So you admit that you kind ram ship well that's good to hear at less a little hope for your kind thanks son of a ho oh right tell your mom to give you an extra one dollar and also your sister and your grandma oh she still complain about the back pay the Japanese owe her?

 

[ephone]

No wonder the product of SOB. it cannot even say a sentence clearly.

So you admit that you kind ram ship well that's good to hear at less a little hope for your kind thanks son of a ho oh right tell your mom to give you an extra one dollar and also your sister and your grandma oh she still complain about the back pay the Japanese owe her?



So you admit that you kind ram ship well that's good to hear at less a little hope for your kind thanks son of a ho oh right tell your mom to give you an extra one dollar and also your sister and your grandma oh she still complain about the back pay the Japanese owe her?