Is Azad Kashmir Retrievable? with Dr. Subramanian Swamy and Maj. Gaurav Arya

[Joe Shearer]

Its not retrievable, let's all be content with what we got and work to fix and improve our economies, rule of law and politics. Those are of far greater consequence to the regular man, that has his pocket pinched all the time as it is for elitist political drama and paranoia.

We are not answerable for whatever is said by our equivalent of Zaid Hamid and Shireen Mazari.

 

[blueazure]

There is always a scope of a limited war in kashmir. As Major Arya puts it kashmir valley is a 150 x 140 km strech of land and pakistan will not risk total nuclear annihilation for it. Pakistan wants kashmir for its water security. If India attacks to retake pakistan administered kashmir without opening other fronts the casualties of the IA will significant as pakistani will be ready in well dug positions but in th end it will be India that wins as Pakistan's smaller military and economic resources get exhausted and overwhelmed by the Indians.

please give a standing ovation to this man

 

[khanmubashir]

India goes to war only when there are no other options left. Indian priorities are economic development unlike pakistan. But in a full blown war pakistan won't last a week. And you yourselves are witnesses of what India can do.

Yeah ranoff from own iok airspace letting paf establish local air dominance and on this cowardice give own self amraam Dodger stamp and call abhidung the f16 slayer the poor chap who is mum ever since he returned not ready to talk with any media outlet to tell how such feet was done to delight the chutyabhakt

 

[blueazure]

major gobar arya was retired from indian army on mental health grounds

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kashmir terrain is hilly. forget armor. indians would be needing mountain troops en masse to occupy key AJK centers like MZFBD, GGT, skardu and mirpur etc


any attack on AJK would totally transform the posturing of pakistani establishment and pakistan would be playing the second card



lest we forget, for any attack to be remotely successful on AJK, IAF would require total air domination !

 

[GHALIB]

We are not answerable for whatever is said by our equivalent of Zaid Hamid and Shireen Mazari.

very true .

major gobar arya was retired from indian army on mental health grounds

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kashmir terrain is hilly. forget armor. indians would be needing mountain troops en masse to occupy key AJK centers like MZFBD, GGT, skardu and mirpur etc


any attack on AJK would totally transform the posturing of pakistani establishment and pakistan would be playing the second card



lest we forget, for any attack to be remotely successful on AJK, IAF would require total air domination !

let the idiots talk about taking ajk
we don't , not even in dreams ,
we can not dream about holding ajk , any sane person will never talk like this .
our only object is keeping whatever is in our hand , at any cost .

 

[Joe Shearer]

very true .


let the idiots talk about taking ajk
we don't , not even dreams ,
we can not dream about holding ajk , any sane person will never talk like this .
our only object is keeping whatever is in our hand , at any cost .

What is most irritating is the casual way in which they talk about wresting back Gilgit. What is wrong with them? Next they will be forming the Sudan Regiment.

Yeah ranoff from own iok airspace letting paf establish local air dominance and on this cowardice give own self amraam Dodger stamp and call abhidung the f16 slayer the poor chap who is mum ever since he returned not ready to talk with any media outlet to tell how such feet was done to delight the chutyabhakt

I have seen quite a lot of really bad posts. Yours must take its place among the worst ten. Congratulations on voiding your bowels on to PDF. It is a poor substitute for the contents of your mind, but my sympathies are with you. Beggars can't be choosers.

major gobar arya was retired from indian army on mental health grounds

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kashmir terrain is hilly. forget armor. indians would be needing mountain troops en masse to occupy key AJK centers like MZFBD, GGT, skardu and mirpur etc


any attack on AJK would totally transform the posturing of pakistani establishment and pakistan would be playing the second card



lest we forget, for any attack to be remotely successful on AJK, IAF would require total air domination !

If you don't mind satisfying my curiousity, why did you think it necessary to write this post at all?

both of these are thinking at the same frequency on which lal topi wala zaid hamid thinks .

You forgot Shireen Mazari.

this person is further damaging indian army repute

No, he is not.

Imbeciles of this kind are nothing to do with soldiering.

Someone retired as a major means he is not competent enough to go above major that too in a stupid army like IA. And then this retired dumb major becomes their expert lolz.
What makes me laugh at stupidity of indians thinking they will win in the wnd because of larger army and resources, this alone shows how retarded these ppl are and actually have never studied history or wars.
I just wish india attacks first, they will then taste our counter attack. Pakistan a muslim country should never attack first, we shoul have restraint and sabar as Quran says. But once they attack, we will unleash our fury, as we love death in a battlefield more than a loving life.

The POSTS on this thread raise more questions than the subject, or the speakers in the TV show.

Were your remarks intended to be representative of the Pakistan of the past, the Pakistan of the present, or the Pakistan of the future? Since they do not fit the Pakistan of the past, one must conclude that only the latter two cases apply. Were those remarks intended to do so?

I ask these merely in a spirit of clinical curiosity.

 

[GHALIB]

t all?
You forgot Shireen Mazari.

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not only mazari there are more of the kind who are busy for planning ghazwa e hind
1.orya maqbool jan
2.dr.shahid masood
3.sabir shakir
they all are predicting war of ghazwa e hind from the last five years .
all are from the same league of swami and gaurav .

 

[Joe Shearer]

ha ha ha .....................
he is india's zaid hamid ,
lal topi who wants to be khalifa of islamic emirat e hind .

Look at the post above.

The all-conquering hero awaits......

not only mazari there are more of the kind who are busy for planning ghazwa e hind
1.orya maqbool jan
2.dr.shahid masood
3.sabir shakir
they all are predicting war of ghazwa e hind from the last five years .
all are from the same league of swami and gaurav .

That was classy; you know your onions. Respect.

Being a muslim is the only thing that makes you win a war.

May this be quoted?

kashmir is still with us for which you are trying from1947 .

Really silly post by you.

Are you seriously trying to use logic?

 

[Hamza913]

If India attacks to retake pakistan administered kashmir without opening other fronts

Pakistan would open another front if it felt threatened. Don't forget the lessons of previous wars.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Stupid Sanghis. Till 10 years ago, such views were fringe at best. It's ridiculous that people openly advocate war for a few hits on their YouTube channel. And enough idiots in India and Pakistan love this kind of jingoism.

Small correction.

 

[Nilgiri]

Small correction.

I mean 9 pages and counting just here of licking one's chops.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I mean 9 pages and counting just here of licking one's chops.

I've never had so much fun with my clothes on.

It's hilarious; two of the Three have made their way through the thread, one with his have you any REAL evidence, and the other with his 900,000 in Kashmir (it's gone up from 700,000, to account for inflation). Another numskull, inspired by Indus Pakistan's very sensible framework for understanding the underlying unifying influences in Pakistani history before there was Pakistan, talks of his ancestors, which is fine, and then blunders around the entire sad story of there not having been an India before the British created it. These are only three; the thread is filled with these astonishing posts.

And, of course, the mandatory descent into the manners of the gutter; there is that reference to Swamy's Muslim son-in-law, and gibes about Ghalib for daring to have been born (I am exaggerating), with the mandatory picture of Abhinandan Varthaman with a bloodied face. They think it reflects credit on them.

Pakistan would open another front if it felt threatened. Don't forget the lessons of previous wars.

What's a nice guy like you doing in a thread like this?

 

[blueazure]

stop patronizing me @GHALIB . we know your intentions and plan accordingly.



a note - this AJK /attack gilgit war gaming circus on indian media can be a ruse /diversionary tactic ... ( attack sialkot ? and cut GT road ?)

 

[vishwambhar]

If GB or AJK was flat land like Punjab or rajasthan it can be militarily captured by larger force than Pakistan.... even Iran is capable to take it from Pak in that case....but since its hilly mountainous terrain with Pakistan army already fortified with very hi tech weapons makes it impossible to capture for any force on the planet.....

This is like Indo China borders where India is blessed with natural Himalayan barrier and India sitting on the height on most of the places makes it very very difficult for a powerful force like China to go for full blown offense on India.... if that region was flat land like Punjab or rajasthan then for China it's like a walk in park.....

 

[waz]

Since it is said to keep the friends close and the enemies closer, the purpose of the post is to keep us informed how the other side is thinking and what could be the expected consequences. Although we all have been discussing it for long, the frequency of such debates clearly holds a mirror to what the Saffronites have in their mind.

Know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle. (Sun Tzu)

Dr Swamy discusses with Major Arya on

-How to retrieve Azad Kashmir
-How to deal with Talibans' Afghanistan
-Question Answer session

These ramblings are enough to put anyone to sleep. Few care for a bunch of dreamers.