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Iraqi Birth Defects Worse than Hiroshima

This time it's your illegitimate regime who is doing worse than what US did in Iraq. I support anything and anybody who can stop him from massacring more. And regarding the GCC, KSA opposed the invasion and tried to persuade America and Kuwaitis not to invade Iraq but they refused and their relations deteriorated after it was bad already after 9/11 attacks. I hated Kuwaiti and Qatari leaders as any Arab, but what would I get or hope for? Destroying Kuwait for instance? I think we have no choice but to let it go and let Allah deal with them. Moreover, when it comes to GCC being threatened by Iran off course I would take GCC side no matter what.

When a small, unimportant, puppet country brings in foreign powers to destroy its neighbours then these neighbours should wipe that small puppet off the map.
Not "let allah deal with them" otherwise we could all sleep now and do nothing.

The US destroyed Iraq with their support for Saddam and the GCC is their best friend.
So anything against the GCC and the US is good.
Kuwait is a military base for the US, let allah deal with them right, iraq should be bombed by the US in the future a few more times because Kuwaitis are such honourable people which was cut off Iraq in the 60s.
 
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OMG :bad:


Till USA don't get such kids in every of its state hospitals inside USA specially the coming generation of bush and his supporters on Iraq Afghanistan war till that they will not feel the pain of these kids and their parents
Till us & israel involvement in Middle east,south Asia ,Gulf,African countries never expect peace they are experts in destabilizing free states and creating anti elements GOD give rid to all peaceful nations from all kind of parasites who are enjoying themselves while making life miserable for others.

Bush and Obama's continuation of killing innocent women and children without a trial. So how many bombs do you have to drop on kids to get a peace prize? Where does this stop and who made these people God in deciding who dies? So whats next done strikes on people who object to this government actions or strikes at corporations requests? Operators DO NOT just fire missiles all willy nilly regardless of what the media portrays. It has to go through a chain before they get the green light chain of Jewish lobbies and there supporters in white house pentagon. So blame those in power. Not those behind the controls.No country should ever be targeted for assassination by the US government. This is a clear violation of an American's right to Due Process not only for american but for every innocent baby kids which us govt killed and killing, A right so important that it is in both the Bill of Rights (5th Amendment) and the 14th Amendment.



 
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WHAT THE HELL DID I JUST READ?
you contradict yourself in so many ways...
first of all it was GCC countries that opened their arms for the west to invade and destroy Iraq.... the only two countries that VOTED NO in the Arab League were Syria and Algeria.

Do you have a reference for that, Syrian Lion? Me, I remember wide opposition to the Iraq War coming from Arab states, and this even in countries that were otherwise reliable chums to the US. Even Mubarak, for example, warned that the Iraq War would only produce new al-Qaeda's. I think that was a very general sentiment among Arab countries - and also in the world, really.

According to this Wikipedia map, the only Arab country which supported the Iraq War was Kuwait. The rest (in blue), with the UAE's exception, all opposed it.

800px-State_positions_Iraq_war.svg.png
 
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Do you have a reference for that, Syrian Lion? Me, I remember wide opposition to the Iraq War coming from Arab states, and this even in countries that were otherwise reliable chums to the US. Even Mubarak, for example, warned that the Iraq War would only produce new al-Qaeda's. I think that was a very general sentiment among Arab countries - and also in the world, really.

According to this Wikipedia map, the only Arab country which supported the Iraq War was Kuwait. The rest (in blue), with the UAE's exception, all opposed it.

1 reason explains the choice of Arab countries why they were against the war.
If saddam falls, the chance is big Shias will take power.

Kuwait just hates Iraq for 1990, this was their revenge.
 
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Salaam to all the Muslims,

:pakistan:

Inna Lillahi Wa-Ina Alaihi Rajioun.

Too graphic, scrolled down very quickly.

Salaam to all the Muslims.
 
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Do you have a reference for that, Syrian Lion? Me, I remember wide opposition to the Iraq War coming from Arab states, and this even in countries that were otherwise reliable chums to the US. Even Mubarak, for example, warned that the Iraq War would only produce new al-Qaeda's. I think that was a very general sentiment among Arab countries - and also in the world, really.

According to this Wikipedia map, the only Arab country which supported the Iraq War was Kuwait. The rest (in blue), with the UAE's exception, all opposed it.

800px-State_positions_Iraq_war.svg.png

Jordan, Egypt, Qatar, UAE were all involved one way or an other. Jordan, UAE and Egypt through logistics and equipment, Bahrain is home to the US 5th naval fleet, Qatar is home to the biggest US airbase and it is where the planes coming to bomb Iraq came from. Kuwait is where the troops entered from.

But Iraqi blood will become a curse to all those who were involved, if not today, then tomorrow they will get what's coming to them.



Veteran Suicide Rate At 22 Each Day, Department Of Veterans Affairs Report Finds
Veteran Suicide Rate At 22 Each Day, Department Of Veterans Affairs Report Finds
 
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1 reason explains the choice of Arab countries why they were against the war.
If saddam falls, the chance is big Shias will take power.

Kuwait just hates Iraq for 1990, this was their revenge.

I don't disagree with you, but I don't think the Shia rise issue was the only thing the GCC had in mind when stating opposition to the war. They also feared that, as many predicted, al-Qaeda would use the Iraq War to re-introduce itself to the neighborhood and propagate its ideology to other parts of the Muslim world. It shouldn't be forgotten that Al-Qaeda's number one objective is the overthrowal of GCC governments.

Also, Arab peoples everywhere were against the war. It would've been an act of utmost audacity for any Arab government to support US thuggery against Iraq; any Arab government that did so, would've delegitimized itself to its own people. The only country where this was possible is Kuwait, because, as you said yourself, Kuwaitians had more personal reasons to resent Saddam.
 
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I don't disagree with you, but I don't think the Shia rise issue was the only thing the GCC had in mind when stating opposition to the war. They also feared that, as many predicted, al-Qaeda would use the Iraq War to re-introduce itself to the neighborhood and propagate its ideology to other parts of the Muslim world. It shouldn't be forgotten that Al-Qaeda's number one objective is the overthrowal of GCC governments.

Also, Arab peoples everywhere were against the war. It would've been an act of utmost audacity for any Arab government to support US thuggery against Iraq; any Arab government that did so, would've delegitimized itself to its own people. The only country where this was possible is Kuwait, because, as you said yourself, Kuwaitians had more personal reasons to resent Saddam.


There are many reasons, also it would be that sanctions would be removed on Iraq and Iraq would again start exporting oil, gulf states would have to compete with Iraq.

all these organizations that claim to be mujahideen are somehow fighting muslims 90% of the time.
Gulf states have/still fund al qaeda, jahbat al nusra, islamic state of Iraq.
These groups have priority in ruining and killing iraqi shia before they start in the GCC.
Where were these mujahideen during the secular saddam regime ? in 1990 they had a chance to infiltrate Iraq but they didn’t cause gulf states did not support it financially.
As of today they are still doing it, these guys can’t operate without financial aid.
 
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There are many reasons, also it would be that sanctions would be removed on Iraq and Iraq would again start exporting oil, gulf states would have to compete with Iraq.

all these organizations that claim to be mujahideen are somehow fighting muslims 90% of the time.
Gulf states have/still fund al qaeda, jahbat al nusra, islamic state of Iraq.
These groups have priority in ruining and killing iraqi shia before they start in the GCC.
Where were these mujahideen during the secular saddam regime ? in 1990 they had a chance to infiltrate Iraq but they didn’t cause gulf states did not support it financially.
As of today they are still doing it, these guys can’t operate without financial aid.

I'm not ruling your explanation about the role of aid to al-Qaeda's infiltration of Iraq, but I still think the main reason those groups didn't infiltrate Iraq before the US invasion was that Saddam had the means and willingness to fight them off. (Saddam was a representaitve of Arab secularism, after all; he had no common ground with al-Qaeda and he would've received al-Qaeda's infiltration attempt as a threat.) During the occupation of Iraq, the US demolished Iraqi institutions, and it thus became much harder for whatever was left of the Iraqi state to fulfill its basic functions, such as border protection, allowing al-Qaeda to take roots in Iraq. It's much easier for foreign infiltration to take place when the state is weakened. That's why al-Qaeda managed to enter Syria only recently, with the civil war, even though I have no doubt they've resented Syria's secular, Shia-led government for a long while.

Anyway, I don't think we should make this thread about the GCC or al-Qaeda. Who hurt Falluhaj's residents most, was the US. And it was the US decision to invade the country and raze resistant cities like Fallujah to the ground, that led to the tragedy mentioned on the thread's opening post.
 
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OMG :bad:


Till USA don't get such kids in every of its state hospitals inside USA specially the coming generation of bush and his supporters on Iraq Afghanistan war till that they will not feel the pain of these kids and their parents
Till us & israel involvement in Middle east,south Asia ,Gulf,African countries never expect peace they are experts in destabilizing free states and creating anti elements GOD give rid to all peaceful nations from all kind of parasites who are enjoying themselves while making life miserable for others.

Bush and Obama's continuation of killing innocent women and children without a trial. So how many bombs do you have to drop on kids to get a peace prize? Where does this stop and who made these people God in deciding who dies? So whats next done strikes on people who object to this government actions or strikes at corporations requests? Operators DO NOT just fire missiles all willy nilly regardless of what the media portrays. It has to go through a chain before they get the green light chain of Jewish lobbies and there supporters in white house pentagon. So blame those in power. Not those behind the controls.No country should ever be targeted for assassination by the US government. This is a clear violation of an American's right to Due Process not only for american but for every innocent baby kids which us govt killed and killing, A right so important that it is in both the Bill of Rights (5th Amendment) and the 14th Amendment.




I remember when one American was bombed because he was a suspected terrorist in Yemen, everyone spoke about rights and how a proper trial should have been given. Let's just hope that the US realizes soon that rights should not be limited to a person's nationality. This was seriously disturbing !!
 
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I'm not ruling your explanation about the role of aid to al-Qaeda's infiltration of Iraq, but I still think the main reason those groups didn't infiltrate Iraq before the US invasion was that Saddam had the means and willingness to fight them off. (Saddam was a representaitve of Arab secularism, after all; he had no common ground with al-Qaeda and he would've received al-Qaeda's infiltration attempt as a threat.) During the occupation of Iraq, the US demolished Iraqi institutions, and it became much harder for whatever was left of the Iraqi state to fulfill its basic functions, such as border protection, allowing al-Qaeda, which was composed mostly of foreigners, to take roots in Iraq. It's much easier for foreign infiltration to take place when the state is weakened. That's why al-Qaeda only managed to enter Syria with the civil war, even though I have no doubt they've resented Syria's secular, Shia-led government for a long while.

Anyway, I don't think we should make this thread about the GCC or al-Qaeda. Who hurt Falluhaj's residents most, was the US. And it was the US decision to invade the country and raze resistent cities like Fallujah to the ground, that led to the tragedy mentioned on the thread's opening post.

Iraq is lucky , these animals would have done this to any city if there were the same circumstances as Fallujah.

There were 2 battles for fallujah, the first 1 they failed they got heavy losses, much higher then they report themselves.
First Battle of Fallujah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is when they decided to use chemicals on Fallujah in the 2nd battle.
apart from that all of this in Iraq did not have to happen, in 2003 Iraq’s tank force was small and the army did not even fight back, there was no need to use DU rounds in their A10’s and Abrams tanks.
 
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The incompletely impartial US press -- which has mostly recognize this Fallujah story for years by now -- is marking the Iraq War's anniversary by whining that the US can't boss Iraq around anymore. How admiringly the writer describes the US's bombing campaign and subjugation of Iraq:

The United States set the tone for its new relationship with Iraq a decade ago with a bombing campaign dubbed “shock and awe,” and spoke with a booming voice during the ensuing years as it shaped the country’s future.

Today, America’s voice here has been reduced to a whimper.
 
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The Last Letter

Truthdig - The Last Letter

[I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.

I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.

You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.
I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.

I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

To read Chris Hedges’ recent interview with Tomas Young, click here.

I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.

I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.

My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.*
 
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