Iraq seeking US drones to curb al-Qaida threat.

[SajeevJino]

True, only one problem left. The US will be the one who operates these predators - barring from the UK -

Somewhere I read France goes for Armed Reaper Drones ..and Congress to too agrees to sell

got the link
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2013/06/28/France-seeks-15B-MQ-9-Reaper-deal/UPI-47121372434858/

 

[Doritos11]

Iraqi politicians are incompetent and have not delivered safety to their citizens for 10 years. Meanwhile they have a soft attitude towards salafi terrorism and let 800 prisoners escape.

Drones will not solve these problems. Inviting Terrorist Americans who back these militants in Syria will also not solve their problems.

Iraqis will be killed like little lambs for the coming 40 years if they keep this soft and incompetent attitude towards terrorism. Iraq needs an Iron-Fist method, like Assad or Iranian method (in case of Rigi brothers).

What is needed for Iraq is mass attacks and Iron fist method. Don't wait till the carbombs reach you like Nasrallah said. Don't give the terrorists rest and send 150000 militias/soldiers to Syria, because now they are concentrated in one place. If they defeat Assad, they will infiltrate Iraq and walk between civilians without being recognized. It's now or never for Iraqis, now is the hunting season. In 1998 250000 Iranian troops got ready to attack Saudi-UAE backed taliban terrorists.

GCC and Iran are at war with each other and Iraq has been their battlefield for some years, this because the US destroyed the Iraqi forces in 2003, now as Iraq is forced to be neutral this will continue untill the military regains its power, the intelligence agency + all other elements that are needed.
Now that this is starting to calm ^^ since the government is getting more power, the threat increases from ISIS in Syria.


Iraq is building an effective security fence on the border with Syria, US armed UAVs can help with monitoring and attacking targets there http://www.defence.pk/forums/arab-defence/266883-iraq-begins-work-syria-security-fence.html.

They are alreading doing such operations, they are not in 1 place, they are all over, your talking about Syria maybe, Irq cannot go into Syria.
The Iranian regime also supports some groups in Iraq which are just as bad, only they are not active.

With Iron fist you mean like Saddam, murder an entire village for something he has no evidence of like Dujail. We are not looking forward to return to that era.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

@Shapur Zol Aktaf

Iraqi politicians are incompetent and have not delivered safety to their citizens for 10 years. Meanwhile they have a soft attitude towards salafi terrorism and let 800 prisoners escape.

Well, obviously, you don't know what you are talking about.

The issue has nothing to do with politics at all. It is something that has to do with counter terrorism intelligence doctrine - which is the same problem your country is facing -

Drones will not solve these problems. Inviting Terrorist Americans who back these militants in Syria will also not solve their problems.

Drones won't require the presence of a single US solider.

Iraqis will be killed like little lambs for the coming 40 years if they keep this soft and incompetent attitude towards terrorism. Iraq needs an Iron-Fist method, like Assad or Iranian method (in case of Rigi brothers).

Both of Iran and Syria failed to counter terrorists attacks on their own soils. Damascus volcano, the assassination of your own nuclear scientists, and Ishura's 2011 massacre speak for themselves.

What is needed for Iraq is mass attacks and Iron fist method. Don't wait till the carbombs reach you like Nasrallah said

Nasrallah couldn't save his " head of security " Imad Mughnyiah, nor could Nasrallah succeeded to save his own stronghold last week.

In 1998 250000 Iranian troops got ready to attack Saudi-UAE backed taliban terrorists.

The boarder incident? Well, your reformist president Khatami came to the UN to protest, you couldn't do a damn thing to he Taliban

 

[Doritos11]

True, only one problem left. The US will be the one who operates these predators - barring from the UK -

There has to be US personell in iraq to put the bombs on and maintain them, but for sure they wont give them neither sell them.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Somewhere I read France goes for Armed Reaper Drones ..and Congress to too agrees to sell

got the link
France seeks $1.5B MQ-9 Reaper deal - UPI.com

Are you seriously putting France in par with Iraq? France is developing her own drone, and she will build the MQ-9 under a license.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

There has to be US personell in iraq to put the bombs on and maintain them, but for sure they wont give them neither sell them.

I thought you were talking about regular soldiers, not technicians anyway, the installation of missiles on the predators won't be a mission impossible, I believe.

 

[Doritos11]

I thought you were talking about regular soldiers, not technicians anyway, the installation of missiles on the predators won't be a mission impossible, I believe.

But why would the US operate drones from far away, its much easier to just send drones to Iraq with a few people to do everything.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

But why would the US operate drones from far away, its much easier to just send drones to Iraq with a few people to do everything.

Or they might operate them via the fifth fleet in the Arabian gulf.

 

[Doritos11]

Or they might operate them via the fifth fleet in the Arabian gulf.

Makes communications and exchanging information with Iraqi forces much harder, all unneeded when they can just operate it from Iraqs airports.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Makes communications and exchanging information with Iraqi forces much harder, all unneeded when they can just operate it from Iraqs airports.

Well,

If you think so, then fine.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

@Yzd Khalifa

Well, obviously, you don't know what you are talking about.

I do, 10 years Iraqis are killed like little lambs

The issue has nothing to do with politics at all. It is something that has to do with counter terrorism intelligence doctrine - which is the same problem your country is facing -

It has to do with politics also. They should organize the country, military, police. Iran is facing mossad terrorism, not to be compared with bunch of empty head salafists.

Drones won't require the presence of a single US solider.

Agreed. However I'm not sure what the results will be because most attacks are in crowded areas without any sign that the attackers are terrorists. They blend themselves with the population. And if the drones are going to kill civilians like in Pakistan, then it might be counterproductive. I think it's better to improve the security and intelligence and army first.

Both of Iran and Syria failed to counter terrorists attacks on their own soils. Damascus volcano, the assassination of your own nuclear scientists, and Ishura's 2011 massacre speak for themselves.

Yes Syria failed, that's why they are now using the Iron fist method. Iran didnt fail because it's stable. The 1 or 2 terrorist attacks a year is not failing. Even in Europe and US it can't be prevented

Nasrallah couldn't save his " head of security " Imad Mughnyiah, nor could Nasrallah succeeded to save his own stronghold last week.

I'm talking about daily security for the citizens. These kind of mossad operations are very difficult to prevent. And about the attack last week, Hezbollah has adopted preventive measures fighting the terrorists outside of Lebanon.

The boarder incident? Well, your reformist president Khatami came to the UN to protest, you couldn't do a damn thing to he Taliban

We helped northern alliance (like martyr ahmad shah masoud who was killed by salafists) to fight taliban. Taliban were shitting their pants, telling Iran we didnt do it.

The Taliban spokesmen said the Iranians had been killed by renegade forces who had acted without orders.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

GCC and Iran are at war with each other and Iraq has been their battlefield for some years, this because the US destroyed the Iraqi forces in 2003, now as Iraq is forced to be neutral this will continue untill the military regains its power, the intelligence agency + all other elements that are needed.
Now that this is starting to calm ^^ since the government is getting more power, the threat increases from ISIS in Syria.


Iraq is building an effective security fence on the border with Syria, US armed UAVs can help with monitoring and attacking targets there http://www.defence.pk/forums/arab-defence/266883-iraq-begins-work-syria-security-fence.html.

They are alreading doing such operations, they are not in 1 place, they are all over, your talking about Syria maybe, Irq cannot go into Syria.
The Iranian regime also supports some groups in Iraq which are just as bad, only they are not active.

With Iron fist you mean like Saddam, murder an entire village for something he has no evidence of like Dujail. We are not looking forward to return to that era.

1. GCC sees shia as danger so we are not the only one fighting them in Iraq, also Iraqis are also fighting them and should combat terrorism to save their country. With or without Iran you will still have to protect yourself. When shia are killed in Indonesia, it's not a battle between GCC and Iran, it's because terrorism/salafism ideology can't tolerate other humans.

2. Yes it's time to start fighting them because now they are all coming to Syria. Their next stop is Iraq.

3. The security dence is a good idea.

4. Yes the operations are good. How more Iraqis kill the takfiris, how safer Iraqs future will be. The groups which Iran supports are now safing Iraqis from takfiri terrorism. These groups get activated in these kind of situation when takfiris start to blow up things, like when they blew up Al-Askari mosque

5. Iron fist method is mass armed struggle (including sending Iraqis to Syria which is happening now) and when capturing one terrorist, relocating the whole family to a desert town far from baghdad. Also warning the funders and sources of terrorism that you will respond in the same way as they do, wherever they might be. And not to forget Fatwa from clerics to kill any takfiri leader/cleric who supports suicide and car bombers.

 

[Doritos11]

1. GCC sees shia as danger so we are not the only one fighting them in Iraq, also Iraqis are also fighting them and should combat terrorism to save their country. With or without Iran you will still have to protect yourself. When shia are killed in Indonesia, it's not a battle between GCC and Iran, it's because terrorism/salafism ideology can't tolerate other humans.

2. Yes it's time to start fighting them because now they are all coming to Syria. Their next stop is Iraq.

3. The security dence is a good idea.

4. Yes the operations are good. How more Iraqis kill the takfiris, how safer Iraqs future will be. The groups which Iran supports are now safing Iraqis from takfiri terrorism. These groups get activated in these kind of situation when takfiris start to blow up things, like when they blew up Al-Askari mosque

5. Iron fist method is mass armed struggle (including sending Iraqis to Syria which is happening now) and when capturing one terrorist, relocating the whole family to a desert town far from baghdad. Also warning the funders and sources of terrorism that you will respond in the same way as they do, wherever they might be. And not to forget Fatwa from clerics to kill any takfiri leader/cleric who supports suicide and car bombers.

You dont understand,
This is not a service or protection of Iraq, Iran is not fighting but also using Iraq as a battlefield.
The groups Iran supports are inactive terrorists who can wake up any time, sleeper cells which still has to be taken care of for some part.

GCC sees shia as danger so we are not the only one fighting them in Iraq,

They are already doing 5

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

You dont understand,
This is not a service or protection of Iraq, Iran is not fighting but also using Iraq as a battlefield.
The groups Iran supports are inactive terrorists who can wake up any time, sleeper cells which still has to be taken care of for some part.

They are already doing 5

I think you are quoting some repeated baathist/American propaganda now. Wherever this terrorists show up, Iran will be against them. This does not mean we are deliberately using Iraq as a battlefield. We have fought them in Iran also, in Baluchistan. They are also doing terrorist operations in Indonesia. Are they fighting Iranians there? Are they fighting Iran in Somalia?

With or without Iran they would hunt you down. Be happy that some of these Iranian backed militias exist and form a threat to them else they would throw you in gas chambers instead of blowing you up. You give them room, and they will take villages and execute civilians like in Syria.

 

[Doritos11]

I think you are quoting some repeated baathist/American propaganda now. Wherever this terrorists show up, Iran will be against them. This does not mean we are deliberately using Iraq as a battlefield. We have fought them in Iran also, in Baluchistan. They are also doing terrorist operations in Indonesia. Are they fighting Iranians there? Are they fighting Iran in Somalia?

With or without Iran they would hunt you down. Be happy that some of these Iranian backed militias exist and form a threat to them else they would throw you in gas chambers instead of blowing you up. You give them room, and they will take villages and execute civilians like in Syria.

How is it propaganda, Bashar is a baathist btw you quote him.
Iran supported groups, this is a known fact, whether it still supports those groups for today is probably true. Hezbollah of Iraq and other groups. I can bring you all the names of militias but it is not needed.
Iran backing these is nothing but against the country, they are not helping neither are they militarily trained. ISIS uses hit and run tactics, without Iranian backed militias it makes no difference.

Iranian regime sucks and is hostile aswell, its not Iran&Iraq vs Gulf Arabs, its more like Iraq vs all neighbours using it as a battleground ( political war ) not a conventional against all neighbours, that's impossible.