Iran's geopolitical strategy in Mid-east after 1979 revolution

[Neptune]

Interesting article. It has some serious analyses regarding Turkey-Iran relations.

What's clear is, the greatest enemy of muslims is the muslims itself.

 

[kalu_miah]

The topic of this thread is spreading sectarian agenda, and you can't put the blame on Iran while 'your side' is responsible for most of the terrorism in the Middle East. So, I do have a point here and stating the roots of sectarianism and terrorism is indeed in line with the topic, because it's accusing Iran with the same things.
And here are some points of these so called 'facts' written by 'Scholars'.I bet real scholars would shoot themselves if they read the meaning of the word scholar here. Even a 2 year old girl wouldn't write something like that because she simply hates someone.

According to 'opposition' sources? Really?

What security sources? What's the proof? Have they counted the number of 'Shia' fighters personally on a nationwide census?

Actually it was Iranian jets flying over Baghdad, not Americans and it was Iran who gave bases and funded the Iraq war, not Kuwait and other 'Arab brothers' of Iraq who were supporting Saddam when it was fighting Iraq, but started supporting U.S war on Iraq when he turned against them. Calling this anything less than ridiculous is a crime.

While all Arabs 'opposed' Iraq war, it was Iran who supported the war, right? Would that really come out of a scholar's mind? Or a 'Iran this Iran that' guy?

majority of Iraqis, including the ones on this forum, beg to differ. The major threat to Iraq is the terrorism which is supported by oil money of their 'Arab brothers'.

Rest of the region? What was in ME in Safavid era except Ottoman empire? What does 'rest of the region' mean here?
And wasn't it the Ottomans who constantly invaded Safavid territories and harassing its neighbors? Sure, Safavid naturally become traitors for hitting back and defending themselves. This is your scholar's logic. The 'Scholars' is trying to exploit even the conflicts of two old empires in ME to fulfill its sectarian agenda.

There are many more lies in that article, but I will stop wasting time on such a nonsense. Thanks to internet, all the facts can be retrieved, nothing can stay hidden forever and other members can judge about your dear quasi-scholars' ideas.

Here is more details about the publisher of OP:

ABOUT THE CORDOBA INTELLECTUAL REVISIONS
The Cordoba Intellectual Revisions is a series of open debates facilitated by The Cordoba Foundation, to explore the limits and boundaries of the modern Islamic thought and ideology. This is a unique platform where old and new ideas are put to the strains of discussion and the contours of the sacred and the mundane are opened for scrutiny and investigation. Participants comprise of Muslim intellectuals, activists and leaders representing various Islamic movements in the West and the arab world as well as critical observers and experts in the field. The meetings are held under the Chatham House rule which stipulates that participants are free to use the information received, but neither the identity nor the affiliation of the speaker(s), nor that of any other participant, may be revealed.

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Anas Altikriti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anas Altikriti (born 9 September 1968 in Iraq) is President and founder of the Cordoba Foundation, a UK-based lobby group for the Muslim Brotherhood.[1][2] He was born into a Sunni Muslim family; his father Dr Osama Tawfiq al-Tikriti was an Iraqi Physician who eventually came to head the Muslim Brotherhood Party in Iraq.[3][4] As a result of his opposition to the Ba'ath regime the family moved to the UK when Anas was aged 4, where they remained exiled until the fall of Saddam Hussain's regime.[5] Anas Altikriti first rose to prominence when he became involved with the UK's Stop the War Coalition protests against the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[6][7] Altikriti also served as president of the Muslim Association of Britain between 2004 and 2005.[8]

Anas Altikriti holds an MSc in Translation and Interpreting.[9] He teaches translation and interpreting on part-time basis at Leeds University. He headed the Respect Yorkshire and Humberside slate for the European elections in 2004.[7] As a commentator in the International and Arab media (including BBC, CNN, ABC, SKY[disambiguation needed] and Al-Jazeera)[citation needed] on Muslim and current affairs, he has appeared on HARDtalk and the Doha Debates (both with Tim Sebastian), Lateline on Australian ABC and BBC’s Newsnight as well as a number of prominent programs on a variety of international channels.[10] Altikriti has contributed a number of articles to The Guardian, Al-Ahram Weekly and Islam Online.[citation needed] He currently fronts a weekly debate show 'Sharqun Wa Gharb' (East and West) on the newly-founded Arab TV satellite station 'Al-Hiwar' (The Dialogue).[5] In late 2005 and 2006 he made a number of trips to Iraq in efforts to release British hostage Norman Kember,[11] who was eventually released in March 2006.

Despite his opposition to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq Anas Altikriti has been a consistent supporter of the Free Syrian Army rebels fighting in the Syrian civil war and he has endorsed the idea of foreign intervention by NATO troops to overthrow President Assad's Ba'ath Regime.[1][12][13][14][15] Anas Altikriti has been a vocal supporter of the policies of Muslim Brotherhood parties across the Middle East and has been described as one of the shrewdest UK-based Brotherhood activists.[1] Of note, Anas Altikriti's father Osama Tawfiq al-Tikriti currently heads the Iraqi Islamic Party, the largest Sunni Islamist political party in Iraq which evolved from the Muslim Brotherhood.[4] He has descrıbed himself how he has tried to encourage Western support for Islamists in the wake of the Arab uprisings.

I was asked at a recent meeting with some of Washington’s wheelers and dealers about what the American government should do with the Islamic movements gaining prominence and claiming the limelight across the Arab world, I answered simply: support them … unless we encourage them and offer them an incentive, their own crop of hard-liners will have been proven right.[15]

This has been interpreted as a new iteration of Tikriti’s previous lobbying strategy, which has sought to persuade Western governments that they should fund Brotherhood groups as moderate alternatives to al-Qaeda. Tikriti has been accused of using the Arab Spring as a new opportunity to leverage the Muslim Brotherhood into positions of power and influence, and perhaps even to acquire new funds from Western sources, through arguing that Western support for the Brotherhood parties can undermine and moderate more extremist Islamist elements.[1]

 

[Vinod2070]

The Mughal Empire (Mongol Il Khans, not Mughal Timurids in India) which ruled Iran destroyed almost all traces of the Islamic civilizations that preceded them.

Can some Iranian member help with this part of their history and how they perceive it?

 

[Serpentine]

Can some Iranian member help with this part of their history and how they perceive it?

Not true, Ilkhans actually converted to Islam and adopted and somehow revived Persian language and heritage.They were very different from ruthless savage forces of Genghis Khan.

From wiki:

The emergence of the Ilkhanate had an important historical impact in the Middle Eastern region. The establishment of the unified Mongol Empire had significantly eased trade and commerce across Asia. The communications between the Ilkhanate and the Yuan Dynasty headquartered in China encouraged this development.
The Ilkhanate also helped to pave the way for the later Persian Safavid dynastic state, and ultimately the modern country of Iran. Hulagu's conquests had also opened Iran to Chinese influence from the east. This, combined with patronage from his successors, would develop Iran's distinctive excellence in architecture. Under the Ilkhans, Iranian historians also moved from writing in Arabic, to writing in their native Persian tongue.
The rudiments of double-entry accounting were practiced in the Ilkhanate; merdiban was then adopted by the Ottoman Empire. These developments were independent from the accounting practices used in Europe. This accounting system was adopted primarily as the result of socio-economic necessities created by the agricultural and fiscal reforms of Ghazan Khan in 1295-1304.

With quite the irony, every foreign force who came to Iran during history, instead of forcing it's own culture or language, adopted Persian culture and language. Mughuls were no exceptions.

 

[Vinod2070]

Not true, Ilkhans actually converted to Islam and adopted and somehow revived Persian language and heritage.They were very different from ruthless savage forces of Genghis Khan.

From wiki:

With quite the irony, every foreign force who came to Iran during history, instead of forcing it's own culture or language, adopted Persian culture and language. Mughuls were no exceptions.

Thanks.

Were these Ilkhans from the Chagatai Khanate?

 

[Serpentine]

Thanks.

Were these Ilkhans from the Chagatai Khanate?

No they weren't. The founder of Ilkhans was Holagu Khan, Grand son of Genghis. Chagatai and Ilkhans fought wars with each other and they aren't the same.

The actual founder of the Ilkhanate dynasty was Hulagu Khan, grandson of Genghis Khan and brother of both Möngke Khan and Kublai Khan. Möngke dispatched him to establish a firm Toluid control over the Middle East, and ordered him return to Mongolia when his task was accomplished.[12] Taking over from Baiju in 1255 or 1256, he had been charged with subduing the Muslim kingdoms to the west "as far as the borders of Egypt." This occupation led the Turkmens to move west into Anatolia to escape from the Mongolian tribes. He established his dynasty over the southwestern part of the Mongol Empire that stretched from Transoxiana to Syria. He destroyed the Ismaili Nizari Hashshashins and the Abbasid Caliphate in 1256 and 1258 respectively. After that he advanced as far as Gaza, briefly conquering Ayyubid Syria.

Ghazan (Seventh ruler of Ilkhans) eased the troubles with the Golden Horde, but the Ögedeids and Chagataids in Central Asia continued to pose a serious threat to both the Ilkhanate and his overlord and ally the Great Khan in China. When Ghazan was crowned, the Chagatayid Khan Duwa invaded Khorasan in 1295. Ghazan sent two of his relatives against the army of Chagatai Khanate but they deserted. When the traitors were captured and executed, some other notable Mongol nobles began to leave his side. Baltu of the Jalayir and Sulemish of the Oirat revolted against the Ilkhan's rule in Turkey in 1296 and 1299. Sulemish welcomed the Egyptian Mamluks to Anatolia, which postponed Ghazan's plan to invade Syria, though two Mongol rebels were defeated by Ghazan. A large group of the Oirats fled Syria, defeating the contingent sent by Ghazan in 1296. Along with those rebellions, invasions of the Neguderis of the Chagatai Khanate caused difficulties to Ghazan's military operations in Syria.

Ilkhanate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ghazan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[esfahanijew]

Iranians were Shia before the Safavid dynasty
Kulaini was iranian and buyid dynasty
Imam Hussein wife was the daughter of the last
Sassanid emperor the mother of zayin al abdeen
Imam Ali al Reza buried in Mashhad

 

[Abii]

The guy makes sectarian threads to denounce sectarianism, the irony.
Please end this obsession with Iran, this 'Iran & Shias are to be blamed for every problem' syndrome that has gotten you.
Whose ideology are Al-Qaeda and Taliban based on? Who invited Americans to Afghanistan by flying airplanes to WTC or to Iraq by invading its neighbors? Who is the target of majority of terrorist attacks in ME, Sunnis or Shias? Who funded and created Al-Qaeda and Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan? Who is the inventor of Islamic fundamentalism according to latest European commission study? Iran? No wrong, it's Salafism. So instead of crying foul and blaming every single of your miseries on Iran and Shias y sending a novel-like long biased article full of lies, stand like a man and accept the realties.

nooshe joonetoon

hala hey khaye mali arabaro bokonin

har sal vazetoon badtaram mishe

 

[SOS Brigade]

nooshe joonetoon

hala hey khaye mali arabaro bokonin

har sal vazetoon badtaram mishe

What does that mean in English? I don't fully understand it as I'm not that fluent in the Persian language...