Iranian UAVs | News and Discussions

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Wow good stuff. They can really bust stationery and moving vehicles as well.

Thanks for sharing bro @skyshadow.

well first of all all of those bombs are smart bombs



Sadid smart bombs

well know as for the drones


1: Shahed 161 it can carry up to 4 Sadid bombs ( look at 4 bomb hangers for 4 smart bombs )

2: Shahed 191 it can carry up to 2 Sadid bombs in its internal weapons bay

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3: Shahed 171 ( aka Simorgh ) it can carry up to 4 Sadid bombs in its internal weapons bay

4: there is at least 3 different models of stealth UCAVs with different weapons capacity that i do not know there names

 

[skyshadow]

@skyshadow thx for sharing.

Wow good stuff. They can really bust stationery and moving vehicles as well.

Thanks for sharing bro @skyshadow.

well now remember that Sadid has a Air to Air missile too and a Air to ground missile so its not just a smart bomb it has missile versions too, now imagine a drone with speed of almost mach 1 comes behind a fighter and shots an Air to Air missile that would be bad, very bad and Iran has endless drones.



Air to Air

here you can see Sadid_1 Air to ground missile

 

[TheMightyBender]

well first of all all of those bombs are smart bombs



Sadid smart bombs

well know as for the drones


1: Shahed 161 it can carry up to 4 Sadid bombs ( look at 4 bomb hangers for 4 smart bombs )

2: Shahed 191 it can carry up to 2 Sadid bombs in its internal weapons bay

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3: Shahed 171 ( aka Simorgh ) it can carry up to 4 Sadid bombs in its internal weapons bay

4: there is at least 3 different models of stealth UCAVs with different weapons capacity that i do not know there names

Wow that genuinely sucks!!?!
Why in god’s name would you have 7 different drones for the same role?

Some options to consider:
1- none of them works, so you keep building more hoping one will stick.

2- they are for show, you rush a model just to use it as propaganda and then another and another, wasting taxpayer money.

Also, I seriously doubt those are stealthy in a meaningful way. Not only do they lack RAM coatings but look at that poor workmanship? Even some tractors have smoother surfaces than that.

I expect better from Iran, especially since they are not starting from zero like most countries, but copying stolen western tech.

All I see here is just glorified skywalker X-8’s.

 

[skyshadow]

Wow that genuinely sucks!!?!
Why in god’s name would you have 7 different drones for the same role?

Some options to consider:
1- none of them works, so you keep building more hoping one will stick.

2- they are for show, you rush a model just to use it as propaganda and then another and another, wasting taxpayer money.

Also, I seriously doubt those are stealthy in a meaningful way. Not only do they lack RAM coatings but look at that poor workmanship? Even some tractors have smoother surfaces than that.

I expect better from Iran, especially since they are not starting from zero like most countries, but copying stolen western tech.

All I see here is just glorified skywalker X-8’s.

our defense doctrine is different then US or Russia or China or even Turkey we fight the enemy with unconventional war which means quality is important for some systems but for all the others we need quantity more then quality if turkey builds 2 fully stealth UAV we will build 200 stealth UAV with 50% the quality of Turkey's but in great numbers but you see our UAVs are advance as Israel could not shot the one that we sent deep in Israel air space they couldn't shot it with air defense missiles they couldn't shot it with there fighter jets they couldn't jammed it with there jamming weapons nor they could hack it so they had to hit it with attack helicopter.


if i want to give you an example of unconventional war doctrine you don't need to look any further than RQ_4 accident we hit a 200 million dollar drone with 20,000 dollar missile that will inflict much more damage to enemy economy as it can so they stop the war as it will be a lot more costly for them that dose not mean the missile is not state of the art missile or it is less advance no that just mean we built an state of the art missile with less then the money of its western counterparts.

 

[skyshadow]

is that real?

 

[Ich]

is that real?

UAV bomber

 

[Beny Karachun]

our defense doctrine is different then US or Russia or China or even Turkey we fight the enemy with unconventional war which means quality is important for some systems but for all the others we need quantity more then quality if turkey builds 2 fully stealth UAV we will build 200 stealth UAV with 50% the quality of Turkey's but in great numbers but you see our UAVs are advance as Israel could not shot the one that we sent deep in Israel air space they couldn't shot it with air defense missiles they couldn't shot it with there fighter jets they couldn't jammed it with there jamming weapons nor they could hack it so they had to hit it with attack helicopter.

You're writing nonsense you have no idea about.
That "stealth" drone was obviously detected , so it's not stealth for sure. And it got shot down over the Golan merely a few kilometers from the border. Not "deep in Israels airspace".
Israeli F-35s are probably flying over Iranian major cities regularely.

 

[Sineva]

I only pointed at your tall claims about existing Iranian aircrafts because they are a stealth drone hanging from a crane and another which can barely fit a pilot and has never flown.

LOL!!
After reading your above comment I`m almost feeling embarrassed for you because of your obvious utter ignorance.
This may come as a surprise but many drones dont use conventional wheeled landing gear,they instead use assisted take off systems,such as gas/pneumatic or conventional catapults,rocket boosters or other types.The advantages of ditching the landing gear are a reduction in weight and drag,or if its a retracting type gear then a reduction in weight and systems complexity while increasing space for payload.The iranians used to use gas/pneumatic catapults and rocket boosters for most of their drones and still do for many,however these have some drawbacks as gas/pneumatic catapults tend to be bulky and have to be towed or truck mounted,they also take time to charge and it takes time to position the drone on them,you usually have to use a crane for that.Now the iranians came up with a rather neat idea and that was to use vehicle assisted take off,this wasnt an entirely new idea as it is used for small uav and hobbyist drones,however this was the first time to my knowledge at least that it had been used for drones of this size and ucavs at that.Now the advantages of this system compared to gas/pneumatic catapults and rocket boosters are very obvious,however you still need a crane to mount the ucavs onto the assisted take off vehicle,so that is what the crane is for.
Its actually really pretty simple,and clever,when [if?] you stop to think about it.

PS:
An interesting bit of trivia
The iranians have the second oldest drone program in the mena region dating all the way back to the early 80s [about 1983 I think],only israel has an older program in the region.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Wow that genuinely sucks!!?!
Why in god’s name would you have 7 different drones for the same role?

Some options to consider:
1- none of them works, so you keep building more hoping one will stick.

2- they are for show, you rush a model just to use it as propaganda and then another and another, wasting taxpayer money.

Also, I seriously doubt those are stealthy in a meaningful way. Not only do they lack RAM coatings but look at that poor workmanship? Even some tractors have smoother surfaces than that.

I expect better from Iran, especially since they are not starting from zero like most countries, but copying stolen western tech.

All I see here is just glorified skywalker X-8’s.

Yeah you are right they don't work ,they only managed take of from iran and fly to Syria and Bomb the hell out of Isis who were under the protection of centcom and living happily just 4km away from usa forces and their mighty patriot system without they can do anything about it.

 

[Beny Karachun]

LOL!!
After reading your above comment I`m almost feeling embarrassed for you because of your obvious utter ignorance.
This may come as a surprise but many drones dont use conventional wheeled landing gear,they instead use assisted take off systems,such as gas/pneumatic or conventional catapults,rocket boosters or other types.The advantages of ditching the landing gear are a reduction in weight and drag,or if its a retracting type gear then a reduction in weight and systems complexity while increasing space for payload.The iranians used to use gas/pneumatic catapults and rocket boosters for most of their drones and still do for many,however these have some drawbacks as gas/pneumatic catapults tend to be bulky and have to be towed or truck mounted,they also take time to charge and it takes time to position the drone on them,you usually have to use a crane for that.Now the iranians came up with a rather neat idea and that was to use vehicle assisted take off,this wasnt an entirely new idea as it is used for small uav and hobbyist drones,however this was the first time to my knowledge at least that it had been used for drones of this size and ucavs at that.Now the advantages of this system compared to gas/pneumatic catapults and rocket boosters are very obvious,however you still need a crane to mount the ucavs onto the assisted take off vehicle,so that is what the crane is for.
Its actually really pretty simple,and clever,when [if?] you stop to think about it.

PS:
An interesting bit of trivia
The iranians have the second oldest drone program in the mena region dating all the way back to the early 80s [about 1983 I think],only israel has an older program in the region.

Lmao imagine having your whole government lying about having a stealth fighter that cannot fit a pilot inside it and having their stealth drone instantly detected and shot down as soon as it enters Israeli airspace

 

[skyshadow]

UAV bomber

it looks like the Turkish UAV

 

[skyshadow]

You're writing nonsense you have no idea about.
That "stealth" drone was obviously detected , so it's not stealth for sure. And it got shot down over the Golan merely a few kilometers from the border. Not "deep in Israels airspace".
Israeli F-35s are probably flying over Iranian major cities regularely.

dude dude come on, if you think your F35s can even reach west _ central regions of Iran on one go let alone flying over Iranian major cities that are on east_ central regions of Iran then i will not even talk to you as that will show how mach you know about military.

 

[Ich]

it looks like the Turkish UAV

Me miss a UAV bomber with at least 10 tons payload in the sortiment of Iran.

 

[Shane]

np problem .you mean you understand cyprus its new gibrish lol 2 go write correct that disease you and your family have then come back and speak about speaking GIBRISH LOL kid

So who taught you manners and to speak in such a graceful way dear?

 

[Sineva]

Lmao imagine having your whole government lying about having a stealth fighter that cannot fit a pilot inside it and having their stealth drone instantly detected and shot down as soon as it enters Israeli airspace

Actually benny what was rather funny was that the israelis had to whistle up an attack helo to shoot down the drone,which in addition to being prop powered,which thanks to its revolving airfoil does tend to give a larger radar return than one without,was also the earlier version of this design.The curious thing was that the israelis patriot sams previously on at least a couple of other occasions had no trouble either tracking or shooting down non stealthy drones in syrian airspace or at least attempting to target them if they came to close....evidently not this time tho instead having to use an attack helo and get within visual range while it was inside israeli airspace,rather curious,not to mention potentially embarrassing,dont you think?.
Hey,maybe this time the idf just wanted to save the poor old long suffering us taxpayer some money,so it used a helo fired guided missile costing only tens of thousands of us tax dollars rather than a patriot sam costing hundreds of thousands of us tax dollars...
So there you have it folks a perfectly reasonable explanation for the failure of israels air defences.....er..ah...I mean of course a demonstration of israels sound economic policy of conserving us tax dollars[LOL!!]

PS:
Are you guys still grovelling to uncle puty putin begging him to get the iranians out of syria for you?.Let me know how that works out for you.[LOL!]