Iranian FM Zarif in Islamabad for talks with top officials amid rising tension with US

[Clutch]

I am somewhat skeptical of the whole AQ Khan affair. Not that the Pakistani state is an angel in this whole matter

Your skepticism mean very little considering you are not an intrinsic part of this society nor do you intimately know Pakistan.

You options are mostly from CNN, Fox, Dawn, and PDF clipping. The same source of Iraqi invisible Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs).

 

[BHarwana]

Let me remind you, cause it seems like you are purposely forgetting.
In the last month alone, 5-6 attacks
Gwadar PC hotel, balochistan
National highway, balochistan
Quetta, baluchistan, like 3 times
Etc.


Exactly! He should be shown the door

Please give source that these attacks we're done by Iran.

This is not how terrorism works. Now Al-qaida attacked Pakistan numerous times, so should I blame Saudis for that? No I don't think so. Al though if I want to do a propaganda I can use this and no one here will be able to prove me wrong but who will that help Pakistan or our enemies.

Now give me source that attacks had Iranian govt involvement.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Please give source that these attacks we're done by Iran.

This is not how terrorism works. Now Al-qaida attacked Pakistan numerous times, so should I blame Saudis for that? No I don't think so. Al though if I want to do a propaganda I can use this and no one here will be able to prove me wrong but who will that help Pakistan or our enemies.

Now give me source that attacks had Iranian govt involvement.

Give source? The government blamed Iran for the highway attack and the terrorist during the gwadar attack came by sea. You yourself reported that too. Now did they hop on in Karachi and sailed to gwadar? You have a history of getting overexcited, and neglecting reality, at times.

Okay...



Attack claimed by BLA. Afghanistan and India support BLA , not iran..




Which i mentioned. The only attack generated from iran.



Those bomb blasts... no body took responsibility of those attacks but its seems the actions of TTP (which is lately very active in balochistan) or DAESH affiliated groups or BLA (which i doubt they can conduct bomb blasts with that much frequency). The proxies from iran usually involved in shooting down and killing, i never heard of any bomb blast by such a group.

Bhai itna qisa krne ka end maakaz ye hy ky q nava katta kolna q naya syapa pana q naya rola daalna ??? Iran ko b maa behn ki gaalian do kal ko aik China bach jana usko b pir MC BC keh keh ky dushman bana dena....

Done with this topic...

And BLA doesnt operate from Iran too? Just Afghanistan?

The attack on the highway is enough evidence to blame Iran for the other attacked too. You cant just push it to the side and pretend like it didnt happen. Did you also forget their threats of invasion before February 27th happened, when the army shut up everyone?

 

[BHarwana]

Give source? The government blamed Iran for the highway attack and the terrorist during the gwadar attack came by sea. You yourself reported that too. Now did they hop on in Karachi and sailed to gwadar? You have a history of getting overexcited, and neglecting reality, at times.


And BLA doesnt operate from Iran too? Just Afghanistan?

The attack on the highway is enough evidence to blame Iran for the other attacked too. You cant just push it to the side and pretend like it didnt happen. Did you also forget their threats of invasion before February 27th happened, when the army shut up everyone?

I said source because govt never blamed Iran they blamed Iranian land being used by terrorist. There is a difference between Iran doing it and their land being used.

Now Al-qaida is a Saudi organization and they have done many terrorist attacks in Pakistan so who should we blame? Saudis?

Source where it says Iranian govt did the attack? Source please?

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

I said source because govt never blamed Iran they blamed Iranian land being used by terrorist. There is a difference between Iran doing it and their land being used.

Now Al-qaida is a Saudi organization and they have done many terrorist attacks in Pakistan so who should we blame? Saudis?

Source where it says Iranian govt did the attack? Source please?

Yes Saudi Arabia does terrorism in Pakistan too, through their religious schools and everyone is aware of that. Where I'm frm the locals have cut all contact with schools being funded by Saudi Arabia. Goes as far as not even selling them naan.

Iranian land being used for terrorism against Pakistan is the same thing as the Iranian government doing terrorism against Pakistan. Especially since the Iranians brag so much about how no cross border attacks on Pakistan are possible because they have a "formidable border wall"

 

[BHarwana]

Yes Saudi Arabia does terrorism in Pakistan too, through their religious schools and everyone is aware of that. Where I'm frm the locals have cut all contact with schools being funded by Saudi Arabia. Goes as far as not even selling them naan.

Iranian land being used for terrorism against Pakistan is the same thing as the Iranian government doing terrorism against Pakistan. Especially since the Iranians brag so much about how no cross border attacks on Pakistan are possible because they have a "formidable border wall"

Neither Saudis do terrorism in Pakistan nor Iranians do terrorism in Pakistan. The people who do terrorism in Pakistan are USA India Israel. They have infeltrated both Saudis and Iranians and use their land to effect countries in the region. Who created the mess of terrorism in this region. USA is well embedded in Saudi Arabia. India is well embedded in Iran and USA and India currently have common interests against CPEC so put the blame where it should be.
We blamed Iran why? Because Iran is a sovereign country and we cannot go in there to hit these terrorist so we need Iran to hit them for us. It is their soil being used so we want them to take action over it. That is not backstabbing. Similarly when we cooperate with Saudis on terrorism it means Saudis help us against proxies in their region.

Saudis and Iran both fund religious clerics in Pakistan and they do it to have an influence in our country.

 

[suresh1773]

If they seek stronger ties with Pakistan, then they should stop being an indian puppet and exporting terrorism to Pakistan.

What about Pakistan exporting terrorism to Iran. What about the Iranian security guards kidnapped by militants operating from Pakistan

 

[BHarwana]

What about Pakistan exporting terrorism to Iran. What about the Iranian security guards kidnapped by militants operating from Pakistan

@Pakhtoon yum now read above. What is this man trying to do. Since I have changed the Dynamics he is now making his efforts back to throw the discussion back to making Pakistan fight Iran. Now how should he be replied? Simple.

Yes Iranian security guards were abducted but we're they abducted from Pakistan? No those security guards were abducted from Iran not Pakistan and how were terrorist able to abduct them because Iran allowed India into the region and India fund those terrorist who abducted security guards and prove is Kulboshan.

 

[ColonelSanders]

What about Pakistan exporting terrorism to Iran. What about the Iranian security guards kidnapped by militants operating from Pakistan

What about india planting her terrorists in Iran and exporting terrorism to Pakistan? What about India starting randi rona every time something goes wrong in India?

 

[Surenas]

What about Pakistan exporting terrorism to Iran. What about the Iranian security guards kidnapped by militants operating from Pakistan

Pakistan is the greatest cesspool of extremism in the world. Don't let these fanboys fool you with their accusations.

Zarif has no power in Iran. These overtures to Pakistan are nothing more than a show.

 

[Basel]

Maybe if you stop seeing yourself as the center of the universe and understand that Iran can have relations with any country it wants, you wouldn't think we are 'puppets' of India.

If Iran is a puppet of India, then with the same stupid analogy, what can we say about Pakistan and China? or worse, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia? An even bigger puppet-master relationship.

Iran first should stop harboring terror networks in it's territory and then ask others for favor or lecture them, Iran is playing in Indian hands since long and now if they don't stop supporting terrorism and recruitment of fighters for Syria, Iraq from Pakistan then we can just allow US and it's allies to teach Iran lesson it will not forget, US will need use of Pakistani airspace and possibly Sea to conduct operations before war or during war.

 

[Surenas]

Iran first should stop harboring terror networks in it's territory and then ask others for favor or lecture them, Iran is playing in Indian hands since long and now if they don't stop supporting terrorism and recruitment of fighters for Syria, Iraq from Pakistan then we can just allow US and it's allies to teach Iran lesson it will not forget, US will need use of Pakistani airspace and possibly Sea to conduct operations before war or during war.

Keep dreaming. The US doesn't have the balls to attack Iran.

 

[Serpentine]

Iran first should stop harboring terror networks in it's territory and then ask others for favor or lecture them, Iran is playing in Indian hands since long and now if they don't stop supporting terrorism and recruitment of fighters for Syria, Iraq from Pakistan then we can just allow US and it's allies to teach Iran lesson it will not forget, US will need use of Pakistani airspace and possibly Sea to conduct operations before war or during war.

You are talking as if you are head of Pak army or Pak PM. No, you are just an ordinary member on a forum. So please keep your threats to yourself.

 

[nahtanbob]

Your skepticism mean very little considering you are not an intrinsic part of this society nor do you intimately know Pakistan.

You options are mostly from CNN, Fox, Dawn, and PDF clipping. The same source of Iraqi invisible Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs).

There was lots of opposition to Iraq war before it started. the only issue is folks were not in a position to stop it.
That includes folks like Colin Powell

On the AQ Khan affair the Pakistani state was guilty of nuclear proliferation. Was it the way described in the media ? I doubt it.

Kazakhtan, and Turkey has not nuclear technology especially Turkey have no nuclear industry,
and who is opponent of Iran nuclear don't say Iraq please which neighboring country of Iran opposed Iranian nuclear program, instead of brain you have a dog shit in your head @nahtanbob

They were NSG members who voted for the waiver
they had the power to block it

 

[Clutch]

On the AQ Khan affair the Pakistani state was guilty of nuclear proliferation.

There was no proof of nuclear proliferation provided. The current state of Iran's nuclear program is a testament of Iran's lack of critical technologies to have any means for weaponization.