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[Chakar The Great]

Whatever Russia is talking about has zero impact on Afghan peace deals, the one that matters in this is the US and NATO. Also, neither Russia nor America is our ally.

That was quick, Hindu Banya's were quick to jump boats.


So US is everything and Russia has no impact in Afghanistan. One thing I have always noticed among Indian mind set is constant denial if narrative don't suit them rather than accepting their own failures. This particular minds set has led India to several humiliations over last decade or so.

 

[Chhatrapati]

That was quick, Hindu Banya's were quick to jump boats.


So US is everything and Russia has no impact in Afghanistan. One thing I have always noticed among Indian mind set is constant denial if narrative don't suit them rather than accepting their own failures. This particular minds set has led India to several humiliations over last decade or so.

I don't know why some Pakistanis are jumping up and down over Moscow meet. Tell me how many Russian soldiers are in Afghanistan or what influence Russia has in Afghanistan. It's not a matter of narrative but hard reality.

Ironic you say jump boats, we never been in any boats, but see non-Nato allies are.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I don't know why some Pakistanis are jumping up and down over Moscow meet. Tell me how many Russian soldiers are in Afghanistan or what influence Russia has in Afghanistan. It's not a matter of narrative but hard reality.

Ironic you say jump boats, we never been in any boats, but see non-Nato allies are.

Is your self concocted impression that Pakistanis are jumping up and down! Just stating the fact, the real big players, Pakistan, China, Russia and America are doing brain storming sessions while the lesser nations are left out.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Is your self concocted impression that Pakistanis are jumping up and down! Just stating the fact, the real big players, Pakistan, China, Russia and America are doing brain storming sessions while the lesser nations are left out.

It's simple, Taliban, Afghan govt and US is the peace deal that matters all others comes under the "lesser" nations, Without it, Moscow or China can discuss peace to death with no real outcome. Everyone knows it.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

It's simple, Taliban, Afghan govt and US is the peace deal that matters all others comes under the "lesser" nations, Without it, Moscow or China can discuss peace to death with no real outcome. Everyone knows it.

Enjoy

India, Russia less useful to each other now. Disagreements will only grow (theprint.in)

The Russian embassy in New Delhi has denied a report in the Indian media that Moscow, at Pakistan’s behest, sought to keep India out of discussions on Afghanistan. But the Russian position should not come as much of a surprise

 

[Chhatrapati]

Enjoy

India, Russia less useful to each other now. Disagreements will only grow (theprint.in)

The Russian embassy in New Delhi has denied a report in the Indian media that Moscow, at Pakistan’s behest, sought to keep India out of discussions on Afghanistan. But the Russian position should not come as much of a surprise

Lol! Please, India Russia relation is bigger than some Afghan peace deal. And like I said, India will be a party in the Afghan peace deal whether you like it or not because of the US.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Lol! Please, India Russia relation is bigger than some Afghan peace deal. And like I said, India will be a party in the Afghan peace deal whether you like it or not because of the US.

Randi rona is done by Indian media, you dont need to convince us Pakistanis. LOL

We know who is doing what in Afghanistan. As for overall India Russia relationship, thats not the subject under discussion, feel free to create a new thread over it, but when it comes to Afghanistan, as they say, proof is in the pudding.

And yes your India's mai baap America will drag you along with them, like they have been since 9/11 but even they know your utility when it comes to ground realities.

 

[Chhatrapati]

And yes your India's mai baap America will drag you along with them, like they have been since 9/11 but even they know your utility when it comes to ground realities.

We don't need to soil our clothes and get droned by them. There are other ways to use the US to advantage.
The discussion is about the Afghan peace deal and the one that matters still have Indian presence.

 

[Vanamali]

India excluded from it all.

Thank you...

 

[truthseeker2010]

Islamabad. Pakistan has reached out to key regional countries having stakes in Afghanistan with a view to develop a consensus amid renewed push by the United States to seek an end to the decades-old war through a peace deal.
As part of the diplomatic outreach, Pakistan’s special envoy Ambassador Muhammad Sadiq travelled to Iran and held talks with Iranian officials, including Foreign Minister Muhammad Javad Zarif.
The visit came just days before the March 18 meeting being hosted by Moscow to break stalemate in the Afghan peace process.
Pakistan as well as China, the US and representatives of the Afghan Taliban and the Afghan government have been invited by Russia. Ambassador Sadiq will represent Pakistan, the US by Zalmay Khalilzad while the Taliban delegation would be led by Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar and the Afghan government is likely to be represented by Dr Abdullah Abdullah, the head of the Afghan high peace council.
"A high-level delegation of 10 members of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, led by (Taliban co-founder) Mullah Baradar Akhund... will attend the meeting held in Moscow," tweeted Mohammad Naeem, spokesman for the Taliban office in Qatar.
The Moscow summit is aimed at pushing for a solution acceptable to all the parties concerned. Moscow has proposed an interim government comprising all players, including the Taliban.
The proposal appears to be in sync with the draft peace plan prepared by the US that also seeks a transitional Afghan peace government comprising of the Afghan Taliban and all other political groups.
Pakistan is consulting all the key stakeholders on the fast-paced diplomatic activities. In Tehran, Ambassador Sadiq briefed Foreign Minister Zarif about Pakistan’s efforts to facilitate the renewed push for peace deal in Afghanistan.
"In the meeting with Pakistan's special envoy on Sunday, Zarif stressed the need to promote regional cooperation to help establish peace in Afghanistan and preserve achievements gained by Afghan people," reported the Iranian state media.
Sadiq said that his consultations with Iranian foreign minister was satisfactory.
Read more: US seeks Pakistan's help over new 'Afghan peace plan’
About Sadiq's visit, Pakistan's Embassy in Tehran had stated that it was to follow a high level of talks between the special envoy and top Iranian officials on regional issues and events in Afghanistan as well, according to IRNA.
As part of the four-point strategy by the Biden administration, a UN sponsored meeting of foreign ministers from Pakistan, China, Russia, Iran and India is likely to be convened. The meeting is aimed at developing a "unified approach" on the future of Afghanistan, as per the letter written by US Secretary of State Antony Blinken to President Ashraf Ghani.
Pakistan, however, had voiced reservations over extending invitation to India for the UN meeting. Islamabad is not in favour of giving India any role in peace efforts on the ground that New Delhi has only acted as "spoiler."

Pakistan reaches out to regional players in Afghan peace | The Express Tribune

Pakistan has reached out to key regional countries having stakes in Afghanistan with a view to develop a consensus amid renewed push by the United States to seek an end to the decades-old war

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It would be nothing more than a photo op. As US wants to involve india in the process, which is unacceptable to all others. US needs more hammering in Afg before it comes to senses.

 

[FuturePAF]

India has been booted out of the summit in Moscow. Only relevant parties are involved, not even Iran or any other neighbouring country is invited.

The Russians want a productive talk, not a circus, so they invited the only parties truly central to achieving some kind of deal, especially one that is favorable to them.

Also, the Russians and to a lesser extent the Turks are the ones to have real influence on the central Asian countries, which can have influence on their co-ethnic brethren in Afghanistan. The Russians especially can have significant influence on the Tajiks; the core leadership of what was once called the Northern Alliance, and present day Kabul regime.

So this meeting is very significant, and why both the Russian and Pakistani leadership want to find common ground, and prevent any spoilers.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

We don't need to soil our clothes and get droned by them. There are other ways to use the US to advantage.
The discussion is about the Afghan peace deal and the one that matters still have Indian presence.

We know whos pants is getting soiled by the thoughts of mai baap America leaving Afghanistan.

The discussion which matter is happening where all powers to be are at present in a day or so, the UN one is for the other lesser beings to know what decisions are already made.

The Russians want a productive talk, not a circus, so they invited the only parties truly central to achieving some kind of deal, especially one that is favorable to them.

Also, the Russians and to a lesser extent the Turks are the ones to have real influence on the central Asian countries, which can have influence on their co-ethnic brethren in Afghanistan. The Russians especially can have significant influence on the Tajiks; the core leadership of what was once called the Northern Alliance, and present day Kabul regime.

So this meeting is very significant, and why both the Russian and Pakistani leadership want to find common ground, and prevent any spoilers.

For the bold part, the spoilers are left out of this summit.

 

[Chakar The Great]

I don't know why some Pakistanis are jumping up and down over Moscow meet. Tell me how many Russian soldiers are in Afghanistan or what influence Russia has in Afghanistan. It's not a matter of narrative but hard reality.

Ironic you say jump boats, we never been in any boats, but see non-Nato allies are.

Stick to the point, like every other sanghi in India answer is PAKISTAN, MUSLIMS, Anti nationalists, Nehru , Urban Naxalites.


Come on Grow up and stop making people fool, this forum is not for Indian domestic consumption.