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The modernization of North Korea in just 12 years since Kim Jong-un became leader is truly remarkable.
This astonishing modernization of North Korea has received considerable attention and is often cited in Russia and the United States.
A senior U.S. military official said,
In North Korea, even if you fail, you will be allowed to try again and again, so even such a small country can successfully develop hypersonic weapons!
Development doesn't go well in America because there are too many criticisms! The incident that lamented is impressive.

It is well known that Russian President Vladimir Putin praises Kim Jong-un at every opportunity and tries to cut off from the Western economy and revive the domestic industry by using North Korea as a model.
How did Kim Jong-un reinvent a poor little country, completely blocked with no resources, in such a short time?
Most importantly, the year after his presidency, he ended long-standing negotiations with the United States once and for all.
No matter how many times we reach agreements, the United States has broken promises and persistently imposed sanctions.
By abandoning negotiations with the United States, North Korea is no longer frightened by the West, and has developed completely freehand without following its rules.
In just a few years, North Korea was reborn as a different country due to the introduction of a market economy, complete autonomy without dependence on foreign countries, and a policy that places the highest priority on science.
On the other hand, what happened to Iran in the same 12 years?
I am very curious.
Why doesn't Iran learn from North Korea's successes, which even surprised Putin?
Very good points...unfortunately Iran has a governing system that belongs to the middle ages..manned by 80 year old dinosaurs. These dinos are not willing to lose their privileges, never retire and rule the population by dividing them into opposing camps and keep them busy at each other's throat while everyone else around Iran is progressing fast.

As North Korea is marching forward Iran is marching backwards...The hot topic of the day is if female 6 year old school children have to wear hijab or not..Very soon they will force female newborns to wear hijab too..

And yes you can see the rut even in armed forces..They just unveiled yet another drone while they already have similars ones ..lack of vision is now all over the country ...how many freaking drone types a country needs!!!!!:hitwall::hitwall:
 

I have no idea what the point of this drone is when Iran has Kaman-22. Kaman-22 has longer range (3000KM at same 24 hour endurance). Then there is also the basically forgotten Fotros UAV as well as the newer Gaza drone.

Also why go from M-6 and jump to M-10 in naming?
Bro, just don't even bother asking. Theirs some 4D chess in their vision as to why we have yet another MALE class UAV of similar specs to the other 3 that are already available. And the naming conventions are just another mystery lol
 
Bro, just don't even bother asking. Theirs some 4D chess in their vision as to why we have yet another MALE class UAV of similar specs to the other 3 that are already available. And the naming conventions are just another mystery lol
Naming convention in Iran:
This new drone is 10 times better than the previous one so we call it "Muhajir-10"..lol...mullah ruled country!!.
 
As we can see, the brown west asian guy that hates everything and his own country but whites and western stooges is criticizing everything, liking only posts of speculations to demonize Iran OR random images of NK products trying to compare Iran with NK, according to him, NK loves its people and treats them better than Iran, also NK is better in every term compared to Iran, NK produces more than Iran, NK is THE country to compare with Iran (even if NK has a military alliance and military cooperation with China, which no country in the world has with China beside NK)

From his Canadian hometown, behind his computer, insulting everyone of "mullahs" if they don't agree with him and his narrative, a post history consisting of random Iran bashing about the hijab, conspiracy theories and the obsession with the "mullahs", he maybe got his wife stolen by a mullah who knows. Reaction history consisting of liking random pictures of NK products and "it is useless Iran bad its going to fall", "NK produce better than Iran while Iran has more tools" and GDP misinterpretation posts, and insulting anyone that opposes him

Now that our other friend that doesn't post anymore since the MEK HQ has been removed by Albania and since the "revolution" failed

If something is unveiled: "Useless it will serve for nothing this is terrible" (even when not knowing the full specifications of it, day one critics!)
If nothing is unveiled: "The mullahs can't do nothing"
And also likes posts such as "Iran has either to bow down to the west or it will get bombed"!
 
As we can see, the brown west asian guy that hates everything and his own country but whites and western stooges is criticizing everything, liking only posts of speculations to demonize Iran OR random images of NK products trying to compare Iran with NK, according to him, NK loves its people and treats them better than Iran, also NK is better in every term compared to Iran, NK produces more than Iran, NK is THE country to compare with Iran (even if NK has a military alliance and military cooperation with China, which no country in the world has with China beside NK)

From his Canadian hometown, behind his computer, insulting everyone of "mullahs" if they don't agree with him and his narrative, a post history consisting of random Iran bashing about the hijab, conspiracy theories and the obsession with the "mullahs", he maybe got his wife stolen by a mullah who knows. Reaction history consisting of liking random pictures of NK products and "it is useless Iran bad its going to fall", "NK produce better than Iran while Iran has more tools" and GDP misinterpretation posts, and insulting anyone that opposes him

Now that our other friend that doesn't post anymore since the MEK HQ has been removed by Albania and since the "revolution" failed

If something is unveiled: "Useless it will serve for nothing this is terrible" (even when not knowing the full specifications of it, day one critics!)
If nothing is unveiled: "The mullahs can't do nothing"
And also likes posts such as "Iran has either to bow down to the west or it will get bombed"!

If Iran was ruled like the DPRK, none of these people (nor any one of their immediate relatives) would be around now to run their mouths.

They out of all people referencing Korea to amateurishly try and bash Iran is the epitome of bad humor.
 
Looks like mullah hired brown boys from south east Asia are expecting some bonus pays...!
 
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As we can see, the brown west asian guy that hates everything and his own country but whites and western stooges is criticizing everything, liking only posts of speculations to demonize Iran OR random images of NK products trying to compare Iran with NK, according to him, NK loves its people and treats them better than Iran, also NK is better in every term compared to Iran, NK produces more than Iran, NK is THE country to compare with Iran (even if NK has a military alliance and military cooperation with China, which no country in the world has with China beside NK)

From his Canadian hometown, behind his computer, insulting everyone of "mullahs" if they don't agree with him and his narrative, a post history consisting of random Iran bashing about the hijab, conspiracy theories and the obsession with the "mullahs", he maybe got his wife stolen by a mullah who knows. Reaction history consisting of liking random pictures of NK products and "it is useless Iran bad its going to fall", "NK produce better than Iran while Iran has more tools" and GDP misinterpretation posts, and insulting anyone that opposes him

Now that our other friend that doesn't post anymore since the MEK HQ has been removed by Albania and since the "revolution" failed

If something is unveiled: "Useless it will serve for nothing this is terrible" (even when not knowing the full specifications of it, day one critics!)
If nothing is unveiled: "The mullahs can't do nothing"
And also likes posts such as "Iran has either to bow down to the west or it will get bombed"!

I have doubts he is iranian, he seems not to have been stay there ever... he depics a situation that is exageratted, he buys easily media shit, very weak minded and brainwashed if iranian.
 
The modernization of North Korea in just 12 years since Kim Jong-un became leader is truly remarkable.
This astonishing modernization of North Korea has received considerable attention and is often cited in Russia and the United

You do realize NK does not have the $$$$ to equip its entire military with all these weapons?You look at what’s shown at parade or in an unveiling and assume = mass produced.

Basic economics tells you that’s not the case. If Iran cannot do it (~20B military budget) and Russia cannot do it (~60B military budget) what makes you think NK can do it when it’s entire GDP is less than $40B?
 
You do realize NK does not have the $$$$ to equip its entire military with all these weapons?You look at what’s shown at parade or in an unveiling and assume = mass produced.

Basic economics tells you that’s not the case. If Iran cannot do it (~20B military budget) and Russia cannot do it (~60B military budget) what makes you think NK can do it when it’s entire GDP is less than $40B?
I would advise you to not waste time with this user, he already made much more absurd statements about Iran, such as a "Israeli GBU 28 easily penetrating 200m of granite and concrete" and "Iran has no choice but to bow down or either it will get bombed by """aistrikes""" ", and of course the current trend of NK comparisons

This kind of user, makes themselves pass for anti-imperialist persons to foul people, but still relays, says nonsense that always goes against Iran, this is a new trend since the war in Ukraine, people hiding their true goals behind anti imperialism.

The current new trend with Iran also is the NK comparisons and random pictures of what they showcase to imply Iran is doing nothing and their rival is producing in mass.

And of course NK being bombed by propaganda pretty much like Iran but at a lower level of violence, these people purposefully ommit something very important when comparing NK to Iran and this something makes the military comparison senseless:


DPRK has a full military and economic cooperation, and guarantee of protection of being attacked with China, something which no country has with China beside NK, military alliances of this level barely exist in the world, this is a full alliance and military cooperation
 
I have doubts he is iranian, he seems not to have been stay there ever... he depics a situation that is exageratted, he buys easily media shit, very weak minded and brainwashed if iranian.

Few additional tidbits: some weeks ago the user adamantly suggested Iran is "falling behind" in practically every respect due to the Islamic Republic's policy of resisting zio-American imperialism, which the user portrayed as sheer "madness". Today the same person is seen praising the DPRK which is rather famous for doing... precisely what this person was blasting Iran for.

Likewise, the user in question repeatedly suspected another member of being an MKO propagandist based in Albania. Then shortly before the latter ceased contributing, the subject under discussion began reacting to the absentee's posts with "likes". In other words, the subject "liked" at least one post from a person they believe to be an MKO member.

Another brazen, almost comical self-contradiction: last year when the IMF put Iran's GDP at above a trillion USD, the user opened new threads endorsing the figure, arguing why it is in fact realistic. But this year, as the IMF switched to basing itself on the "market" exchange rate - thereby attributing a nearly five times lower GDP to Iran, the user is suddenly taking this at face value and lamenting how "mullahs destroyed the economy" in what can only be described as a blatantly meaningless and demented u-turn.

No time to illustrate the above with screenshots I'm afraid, however these examples can be looked up by way of the search function.

How can a person's views flip 180 degrees in such an abrupt and thoughtless manner, under the combined influence of 1) a Turkish troll popping up in the section and looking down on Iran; 2) western-concocted propaganda and lies distorting the accidental demise of a female, notwithstanding the fact that when you diametrically turn on its head not simply your general political orientation but actual technical arguments you had produced before (as with Iran's GDP), this definitely won't be making you look particularly smart nor serve your credibility? Irrational, immature emotivity is certainly part of the explanation, the notion of weak-mindedness you referenced seems quite a plausible hypothesis to consider as well.
 
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I would advise you to not waste time with this user, he already made much more absurd statements about Iran, such as a "Israeli GBU 28 easily penetrating 200m of granite and concrete" and "Iran has no choice but to bow down or either it will get bombed by """aistrikes""" ",

Latest gems from the individual: under Kim Jong-Un the DPRK introduced a "market economy". Sure, the DPRK's economy "is" market-oriented while the Iranian one "isn't" (although since Hashemi's presidency, adepts of the neo-classical monetarist school of economics have gradually succeeded in exerting a monopoly on the economic debate) :crazy:. The DPRK has focused on science but Iran "hasn't" (ironically, the same user making these suggestions is on the record for elaborating multiple times how Iran has surpassed Japan in scientific research etc).

To think that there are people who deem "comments" like these worthy of applause. What colorful freak show.

and of course the current trend of NK comparisons

There's also another line at play around here: bashing Russia and China on a regular basis. Making it sound as if Moscow and Beijing are being cornered by NATO and that they stand no chance against the USA; that they make for awful cooperation partners, that they're supposedly governed by short-sighted simpletons oblivious to where their interests lie; blowing out of proportion / misinterpreting minor differences between Iran and these two powers (someone was even seriously uttering that in case of a western military attack on Iran, Russia would join in as an aggressor - initially I thought it's a joke); ignoring / obfuscating / denying the depth and obvious strategic nature of Tehran-Moscow and Tehran-Beijing ties.

Yet when it comes to this topic, the writing happens to be on the wall for those who care to read it. Quite simply, the current state of relations between Russia, Iran and China for all its theoretical imperfections does have the regime in Washington mightily worried.

Proof of this is furnished by America's policies and by how USA "think tanks" for instance are analyzing the situation. Titles and introductory paragraphs of two papers from this year by the hawkish "Washington Institute for Near East Policy" do not lie:

Making Iran’s Support for Russia More Costly​

by Henry Rome
Jan 5, 2023

To foster doubts about the wisdom of deepening the relationship, Washington should stoke longstanding Iranian skepticism toward Russia and work with Europe to sanction additional entities involved in the drone program.

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After Ukraine: Russia’s Potential Military and Nuclear Compensation to Iran​

by Louis Dugit-Gros, Anna Borshchevskaya, Michael Eisenstadt, Farzin Nadimi, Henry Rome
Jan 20, 2023

Despite the obstacles to expanded cooperation, Russian aid could help Tehran promote repression at home and instability abroad, so the United States and its allies should seek to deter such collaboration wherever possible.

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Drawing appropriate conclusions from the above, one can either acknowledge how the enemy is effectively treating the relationship between Iran and Russia as a threat to its hegemony, or echo the enemy's proclaimed agenda by downplaying the relevance and impact of Tehran-Moscow ties.

This is really straightforward Cartesian rationality and logical deduction. The USA's foreign policy "think tanks" are advocating disruption of Iran-Russia ties through adverse propaganda? = Iran and friends must tend to speak of Russia in favorable terms. Zionist and American agents of influence in the Islamic Republic i.e. reformists and moderates are going out of their way in demonizing Russia, China? = Iran and friends must do the opposite. Avoid starting hot shooting wars, but always target the enemy's strategy as Dr. Abbasi nicely explained in a speech years ago.

If the enemy is bent on provoking so-called "sectarian war" between Sunni and Shia Moslems via massive propaganda as well as "I"SIS-led terrorist attack on Shias, double down on the defence of your principled policy for Islamic unity, reach out all the more actively to our Sunni brothers, isolating the pseudo-"jihadists" and anti-QShia sectarianists. If the enemy spends its time filling the airwaves and the internet with Russophobic / Sinophobic propaganda for Farsi-speakers, then you automatically know the Islamic Republic's is doing the right thing when it cultivates in its strategic partnership with Russia and China, when the Supreme Leader holds a meeting with President Vladimirovich Putin, illustrating the rapprochement through symbolic gestures and declarations.

Ironically, the pro-western fifth column is the very reason for Russian and Chinese reluctance to go the extra-mile which some seem to feel entitled to. Doubtlessly, working with Russia and China has proven highly beneficial for Iran (and vice versa), but the single most significant factor somewhat slowing down further expansion of ties is the relatively marked presence of pro-western in-house liberals in Iran: why would Moscow and Beijing offer Iran far more than they already have when a bona fide NATO-supporting current is in control of about 50% of power in Iran - including the bulk of the media landscape, most of the economy, some nine out of ten show-business figures (so-called "celebrities") relaying their demagogy, and so on?

What if this current, whose representatives such as Faeze Rafsanjani openly came out in support of Ukraine, who dream of turning Iran into an obedient subordinate proxy for the USA and whose rank and file enthusiastically shout "down with Russia, down with China", came to gain control of the Supreme Leadership or managed to politically neutralize the latter in the near future? Is there any equivalent to Iranian reformists / moderates in Saudi Arabia able to stand in the way of Bin Salman if he decides to boost ties with Russia and China? Why should Russia and China speed up the process when half the key assets of influence in Iran are held by staunch enemies of theirs?

Instead of jumping sheepishly onto the Russophobic and Sinophobic bandwagon whenever liberal propaganda manufactures a new talking point to demonize our friends in Moscow and Beijing, actual patriots and Revolutionaries ought to concentrate their efforts on pushing back the infiltrated reformist / moderate fifth column of the zionists and NATO, fifth column which is in the business of deliberately trying to alienate Moscow and Beijing and of attempting to sabotage the strategic alliance on equal footing which is taking shape and inevitably cementing itself with each passing day between Iran and these two major powers.

This kind of user, makes themselves pass for anti-imperialist persons to foul people, but still relays, says nonsense that always goes against Iran, this is a new trend since the war in Ukraine, people hiding their true goals behind anti imperialism.

What you describe represents in fact a pretty established trend or shall we rather say policy instrument in the hands of imperialists, especially in the propaganda and psy-ops realms.

See for instance the concept of proxies acting as controlled or fake opposition. Daesh in a way was and is nothing more than a fake pseudo-alternative to the Islamic Revolution, a trap and a dead-end towards which they misguide Moslems, turning them into useful idiots for the zio-American empire against the actual heavyweight of anti-imperial Resistance i.e. Islamic Iran. Of course the patsies will be brainwashed into resorting to accusatory inversion, always desperate to peddle the ludicrous idea that the Resistance camp is in fact "secretly allied under the table" with its enemy.

In this framework you may be interested in the work authored by a certain British general that theorizes the necessity to set up a fake controlled opposition in reaction to the 1950's Mau Mau anti-colonial liberation movement in Kenya. The bogus group would focus on destabilizing said liberation movement while sugarcoating its sinister deeds with a pretense of anti-colonialism.

This is a standard procedure oppressive imperialist powers have methodically been deploying in their confrontation with Resistance forces.

The current new trend with Iran also is the NK comparisons and random pictures of what they showcase to imply Iran is doing nothing and their rival is producing in mass.

A discursive trend on this forum indeed. Like all the foregoing anti-IR efforts however, it too will fail to achieve the ultimate goal it pursues.
 
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do ta pakestani va bangaldashi hala darn az ma irani ha eshkal migirand va az ma iarani ha vatan parast tar shodehand....khak bar sar yek mosht akhond ke een pakistani and bangaladashi ra irani kardand. :undecided:

dar ayandeh ke Iran azad shod az in akhond ha har do ta ra ba ordang az iran biron mekonim..:woot:
 
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