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“immediately” detected by US. Yes, because that was the intention. The sanitation worker sweeping the streets in Khermanshahr knew the missiles were getting ready. Iran even informed Iraq hours before launch so no Iraqi casualties would occur. US was leaking Iran’s intentions days in advance. Al-Assad was a dual use base. Iranian teams were purposely using unsecure communications to be picked up by SIGNIT. So redneck Bob sitting in Centcom could tell everyone or is he now known as Barbara in the LBTQ+minusdivide* of the US military?

Iran gave as much warning as it could. The entire Al-Assad was a face saving operation. It was lame. Military Broadway theater. Iran was prepared for US troops to be killed, even tho it was intentionally avoiding the major bunkers from the Iraq-Iran war era.

If intention was covert and bloodshed. Then iran would have used its many silos that have existed years before Missile cities to fire that 15-20 missiles within mins of the assassination.

Come on now.

You have to realize there are 50+ single launch silos 24/7 ready with Sejil and various S-3’s derivatives to fire? This was unveiled by Iran years ago and origins go back to early 2000’s. Originally they housed silo ready S-3’s. A loaded S-3 can be filled for weeks before it has to emptied due to corrosive effects of fuel. And that has been remedied by the new gel fuel.

Add in the buried canisters, scattered across the military restricted deserts of Iran. These can stay buried for years without any need for major maintenance. Iran didn’t invent this shiny wheel, US actually built this design way back in the Cold War idk 70’s? Never took off since they had enough nukes to cleanse this earth several hundred times over.

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Incorrect. Outdated information.

Ghadr (liquid fuel) has set up time of 30 mins assuming TEL launch. All the latest liquid missiles no longer need several hours set up time or large crew. This was remedied over 10 years ago under Tehrani Moghaddam.

Solid fuel even shorter launch time since there is no fueling cycle needed and an operates using a much smaller crew.

Comparing a war game with real time war scenario is incorrect on many levels. They are not testing how fast can you fire a missile. They are deterrence messages and chances for all crew teams to get live fire exercise repetition vs simulation. Plus heads of military have to arrive. It’s a show.

Just like when US flies it’s old dinosaur B-52 blimps in PG and thinks anyone gets scared of these anymore.



Incorrect - there are at least 5 missile cities. Plus smaller “villages”.

OSINT rendering:

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As for reload time:


So let’s recap:

1 missile city has let say 5 launch pits with blast proof chamber and cover.

Each wagon carries at least 4 missiles (video confirmed) with preloaded target data and fuel. Let say it takes 5 mins to load from wagon into launch pit + close + fire.

That means missile city should be able to fire its initial first load of 25 missiles in less than 30 mins (20 mins but adding margin of error yada yada) before wagon(s) goes back to storage side of the base to reload with another set of 4 missiles + fuel and targeting info (teams are doing this as the other teams fire - it’s like F1 pit stops but with missiles!).

Multiple that by 5 cities. That’s 125 missiles just from the cities and their initial long preassembled 1st volley, but hell let’s say 100 missiles because these damn “eye-ranians” can’t be that smart right? That’s what US bumpkins think.

  • So with a 25% penalty: 100 missiles in 20-30 mins per [remaining] missile City reload assuming only 5 cities with 5 pits+4 wagon exist. Very conservative estimation - subtracted 25 missiles to make you happy.
  • Plus Iran’s decades old always prepared single chamber silos lets say another 25 missiles there. 25 silos - 1 launch each in 20 mins. Very small number of silos for such a large country (but hey these are a bunch of dumb camel riders right?)
  • Irans buried missile canisters in the desert let’s say again only 50 because these Iranians can’t even build construction trucks and excavators since they came from the desert. They used their hands to dig these missiles into the dirt, only managed 50 before they got distracted by staring at a glowing object in the sky — they realized later it was the sun. Classic Iranians.
  • Now let’s add every single one of Iran’s missile storage bases that have short notice ready TELs with coordinates.

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I’ll add another only a mere 50 TEL launches across the entire country of Iran in 20-30 min period.

NOTE: USA super duper CIA intelligence once said Iran has less than 100 TELS in existence. Us dumb brown people can’t possibly make military launch trucks. We can only make kaboob and smoke hookah baba Jan!

But sadly out of our only 100TELS gifted to us by aliens….50 broke down because we didn’t know you had to put oil in engine to make it run! Silly us!

P.S. I won’t even count the TELs that carry two missiles because those are clearly mock ups. Don’t tell anyone they are made of bastani sonati.

Ladies and gentlemen…..Drumroll please!

Total BMs launched by Iranian forces in a 30 minute period if they were missing those valuable things called chromosomes that Redneck Bob and Rabbi Shalom say we don’t have: 225 Ballistic missiles.

Yeah I’m sure Israel will be fine. Iron pancake maker will save the day.
Reasonable assessment, quite conservative as well. Just the first salvo assuming no interruptions
 
HZ announced deaths: 45

They attacked another satellite dish.

Syrian legions attacked US military base in Syria within the last hour.
 
This is a fallacious argument in the first place, and further more spurious when one considers that this is the pathetic vessel by which you seek to demonstrate your "intelligence".

I am fluent in Persian, Arabic, and English. While it is indeed two words, the "o" when it is conjoined is mainly relegated to the Persian pronunciation of conjoined words which contain "of God". Similarly, "o" instead of the Arabic "u" "i" (ullah, illah) can be witnessed in terms such as "seyedolshohada", "hojatoleslam" and "tajolmoluk", all transliterations of Persian variations on Arabic words.

Since HezbAllah is a nationalistic, primarily Arab organization, it naturally follows that if one respects the Lebanese, they pronounce and spell it with the correct, Arabic variation. "Hezb" even "Hizb" + "Allah". Using the Persian pronunciation/spelling is an entirely Western concoction which reveals underneath it a current of misinformation and manipulative technique by which they seek to push forth the argument that HezbAllah is an entirely Iranian creation and is entirely beholden to the whims of AyatAllah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, marja-al-taqlid.

You betray both your lack of familiarity with Persian and Arabic, your credulity to fall for a Western scheme, and why you have a reaction score of -4.
از بخت بد شما زبان مادری من فارسی هست و انگلیسی و عربی هم میدانم.

ترول عزیز در دستور زبان عربی وقتی کلمات در کنار هم قرار میگیرند بعضی از حروف خوانده نمیشوند. این حروف "و ا ل ی" هستند و همه ی ایرانی ها در مدرسه در درس قرآن و عربی این ها یاد میگیرند. در عربی در هر جمله بستگی به مکان قرار گیری کلمه از مصوت های لازم به جای حروفی که خوانده نمیشود استفاده میکنند که کلمات را به هم وصل کنند.

مثلا:
ابوالفضل
اباالفضل

در فارسی ما همچین قاعده ای نداریم و از همه ی این کلمات استفاده میکنیم. یکی از دردسر های خواندن درست کلمات عربی هم برای ما همین هست.

اگر فارسی بلد هستی امیدوارم درس خوبی برای شما باشد.
 
از بخت بد شما زبان مادری من فارسی هست و انگلیسی و عربی هم میدانم.

ترول عزیز در دستور زبان عربی وقتی کلمات در کنار هم قرار میگیرند بعضی از حروف خوانده نمیشوند. این حروف "و ا ل ی" هستند و همه ی ایرانی ها در مدرسه در درس قرآن و عربی این ها یاد میگیرند. در عربی در هر جمله بستگی به مکان قرار گیری کلمه از مصوت های لازم به جای حروفی که خوانده نمیشود استفاده میکنند که کلمات را به هم وصل کنند.

مثلا:
ابوالفضل
اباالفضل

در فارسی ما همچین قاعده ای نداریم و از همه ی این کلمات استفاده میکنیم. یکی از دردسر های خواندن درست کلمات عربی هم برای ما همین هست.

اگر فارسی بلد هستی امیدوارم درس خوبی برای شما باشد.

First of all, my goal here now that you have fired the opening salvos of a conflict you are certain to lose, is to write my rebuttals in English so every user can read them and laugh at you. I shall dismiss your red herring argument with a reiteration of my original assertion, which anyone schooled in Persian by a proper academic would recognize as undoubtedly and veritably true:

- In Arabic, conjoining any word with the prefix "al" which is multivarious in the language necessitates the pronunciation and transliteration of said prefix on the vowels of the originating conjoined word. Therefore, since "Allah" begins with "alif", it necessarily follows that HezbAllah is the correct transliterative spelling in English. Similarly, "seyyed al-shuhada", "hujjat ul-Islam" and so forth.

- In Persian, the "ul" "al" and "il" do not matter as they do in Arabic. No Persian says "Hezb-Allah". No Persian says "Alam al-Huda" and such. Instead, these are all pronounced in Persian with "ol"; i.e. Alamolhoda, Seyedolshohada, Hojatoleslam, Fatholmobin.

- Again, I demonstrate the simple and correct assertion that since HezbAllah is a Lebanese, Arab party, that one pays due respect to the organization by utilizing proper Arabic and not Persian. This is an even graver mistake when one grasps the Zionist propaganda effort directed at HezbAllah, minimizing it to a purely Iranian invention and at times asserting it is a foreign legion of the Sepah. HezbAllah has a rich history that is Arabic, and is not merely an Iranian appendage. The relationship between them and the Sepah is consensual and any decisions made by the party display an orthogonality that disproves the thesis that said group is Iranian-controlled. Furthermore, were your intent not influenced by Zionist disinformation and merely one of Iranian pride, leading you to utilize the Persian transliteration of said organizational title, you are displaying a sense of chauvinism that is antithetical to Islam and what the Resistance is trying to achieve, a fair unity of forces determined to rectify the injustices of Western colonialism.

If you cannot grasp these relatively elementary and pedestrian concepts, we have no further discussion. I refuse to bend the knee to your incessant pedantry.
 
First of all, my goal here now that you have fired the opening salvos of a conflict you are certain to lose, is to write my rebuttals in English so every user can read them and laugh at you. I shall dismiss your red herring argument with a reiteration of my original assertion, which anyone schooled in Persian by a proper academic would recognize as undoubtedly and veritably true:

- In Arabic, conjoining any word with the prefix "al" which is multivarious in the language necessitates the pronunciation and transliteration of said prefix on the vowels of the originating conjoined word. Therefore, since "Allah" begins with "alif", it necessarily follows that HezbAllah is the correct transliterative spelling in English. Similarly, "seyyed al-shuhada", "hujjat ul-Islam" and so forth.

- In Persian, the "ul" "al" and "il" do not matter as they do in Arabic. No Persian says "Hezb-Allah". No Persian says "Alam al-Huda" and such. Instead, these are all pronounced in Persian with "ol"; i.e. Alamolhoda, Seyedolshohada, Hojatoleslam, Fatholmobin.

- Again, I demonstrate the simple and correct assertion that since HezbAllah is a Lebanese, Arab party, that one pays due respect to the organization by utilizing proper Arabic and not Persian. This is an even graver mistake when one grasps the Zionist propaganda effort directed at HezbAllah, minimizing it to a purely Iranian invention and at times asserting it is a foreign legion of the Sepah. HezbAllah has a rich history that is Arabic, and is not merely an Iranian appendage. The relationship between them and the Sepah is consensual and any decisions made by the party display an orthogonality that disproves the thesis that said group is Iranian-controlled. Furthermore, were your intent not influenced by Zionist disinformation and merely one of Iranian pride, leading you to utilize the Persian transliteration of said organizational title, you are displaying a sense of chauvinism that is antithetical to Islam and what the Resistance is trying to achieve, a fair unity of forces determined to rectify the injustices of Western colonialism.

If you cannot grasp these relatively elementary and pedestrian concepts, we have no further discussion. I refuse to bend the knee to your incessant pedantry.
So you can't read my persian comment? 😏

I answered your nonsenses there.

Have a good time poor troll
 
So you can't read my persian comment? 😏

I answered your nonsenses there.

Have a good time poor troll

I read it in its entirety, and understood it for the crock that it was. I'm sorry, but I won't allow you to misinform the non-Persian readers here with your drivel. I again, double down on my previous assertions. If you want to keep wasting your precious life wagging your decrepit finger at me, do more, I insist. I am currently sitting back and observing you as a scientist would a chimpanzee.
 
I read it in its entirety, and understood it for the crock that it was. I'm sorry, but I won't allow you to misinform the non-Persian readers here with your drivel. I again, double down on my previous assertions. If you want to keep wasting your precious life wagging your decrepit finger at me, do more, I insist. I am currently sitting back and observing you as a scientist would a chimpanzee.
😏
 
You have to realize there are 50+ single launch silos 24/7 ready with Sejil and various S-3’s derivatives to fire? This was unveiled by Iran years ago and origins go back to early 2000’s. Originally they housed silo ready S-3’s. A loaded S-3 can be filled for weeks before it has to emptied due to corrosive effects of fuel. And that has been remedied by the new gel fuel.

Add in the buried canisters, scattered across the military restricted deserts of Iran. These can stay buried for years without any need for major maintenance. Iran didn’t invent this shiny wheel, US actually built this design way back in the Cold War idk 70’s? Never took off since they had enough nukes to cleanse this earth several hundred times over.
This is speculation but reasonable. We have never seen Iran launch more than c.5-10 MRBMs simultaneously (the buried canisters are not MRBMs). Every time Iran has launched missiles at targets in Iraq or Syria (including US targets) it has preferred to move mobile TELs into place hours/days in advance, limiting the salvo rate to c. 5-10 at a time. I accept striking ISIS in Syria is a very different scenario to total war with Israel.
Incorrect. Outdated information.

Ghadr (liquid fuel) has set up time of 30 mins assuming TEL launch. All the latest liquid missiles no longer need several hours set up time or large crew. This was remedied over 10 years ago under Tehrani Moghaddam.

Solid fuel even shorter launch time since there is no fueling cycle needed and an operates using a much smaller crew.

Comparing a war game with real time war scenario is incorrect on many levels. They are not testing how fast can you fire a missile. They are deterrence messages and chances for all crew teams to get live fire exercise repetition vs simulation. Plus heads of military have to arrive. It’s a show.

Just like when US flies it’s old dinosaur B-52 blimps in PG and thinks anyone gets scared of these anymore.
It is not incorrect. Iran factually spends hours putting the TELs into place in war games. War games should absolute attempt to simulate real world conditions of war.

Whether in extremis Iran can move those TELs into place, fuel them, orient them etc in more like 30-60 minutes is speculative but I would agree it is possible. On the other hand, the TELs tend to be placed in prepared launch sites, so I highly doubt sure 50+ TELs could be simultaneously put in launch position within 30 minutes.
Incorrect - there are at least 5 missile cities. Plus smaller “villages”.
I was talking about the 'magazine' system not missile cities. AFAIK only one magazine system has been confirmed to exist.
That is only refuelling time, admits it is an optimistic estimate, and assumes the existence of 5 magazine systems operating simultaneously. That aside, what about time to move and reload the missiles? If you watch the video by IMA Media you will see that entire process is extremely slow and arduous.


So let’s recap:

1 missile city has let say 5 launch pits with blast proof chamber and cover.

Each wagon carries at least 4 missiles (video confirmed) with preloaded target data and fuel. Let say it takes 5 mins to load from wagon into launch pit + close + fire.
The video shows 5 missiles per 'wagon'. Does each missile in the wagon get fired simultaneously? I had assumed, perhaps erroneously, that one missile is fired, the wagon moves along, then the next missile is fired (repeat until all 5 missiles are fired).

Watching the video above, the process clearly takes much longer than 5 minutes. The key point here is whether there are 5 magazine systems / if every missile city has such a system. Are you speculating that this is the case or is there evidence for it?
Total BMs launched by Iranian forces in a 30 minute period if they were missing those valuable things called chromosomes that Redneck Bob and Rabbi Shalom say we don’t have: 225 Ballistic missiles.

Yeah I’m sure Israel will be fine. Iron pancake maker will save the day.
If all your assumptions are correct, and noting it would take more than 30 minutes for 50 TELs to be brought into position and fuelled etc, then that's a fair assessment.

But we are not talking about Iron Dome. We are talking about David's Sling, Patriot and THAAD. Assuming 2x interceptors per Iranian missile, that initial attack would deplete c. 450 Israeli missile interceptors (however, they would be able to reload and would be immediately resupplied in huge numbers by the USA). I have read some OSINT analysis that the number of active Israeli ABM interceptors is lower than thought (for example, c. 60 Patriot missiles IIRC) but obviously that is mostly classified. It would be interesting to find out how many active THAAD/Patriot/DS interceptors Israel has at any one time.
 

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