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Food price hikes feared in Turkey after currency slump
Turkish social media swirled with rumors Monday of possible bread price hikes following a record slide in the nation’s currency, and economist say the anxiety could add to inflationary pressures.
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Erdogan is imprisoning economists who predicted this, accusing them of planning this crisis ahead!Food price hikes feared in Turkey after currency slump
Turkish social media swirled with rumors Monday of possible bread price hikes following a record slide in the nation’s currency, and economist say the anxiety could add to inflationary pressures.www.al-monitor.com
And he's resisting their suggestions to fix the situation by adjusting the interest rate by saying that Islam does not support "riba".
So, it's a very confusing situation for the economists in Turkey now. If they actually suggest ways to fix things and predict the consequences of not doing so, they can be imprisoned for it because Erdogan thinks they are behind it. And that's not all of it. Erdogan has also said that if they lose the election, Turkey will enter chaos. It seems that after his campaign of suppressing Turkish military generals that he didn't trust after the coup, he thinks of himself as the only remaining powerful person in Turkey.
So much for his neo-ottoman empire. Honestly his initial reforms in the early 2000s were good for the Turkish economy.
However now things are completely out of control. If he would have raised the interest rate 5 years ago, Turkey would be doing fine today.
As it stands the Turkish economy is doomed. Even if they were to raise interest rates now, it wouldn't be enough to stop the inevitable downfall.
It's not just about Islamic principals. Erdogan actually seems to believe that a lower interest rate will lower inflation. Either that or he's just pretending so that his friends and family can get access to cheap loans.
For example the Canal Istanbul project, 80% of people in Istanbul are against it but Erdogan's friends and family own most of the land which is set to be developed.
However now things are completely out of control. If he would have raised the interest rate 5 years ago, Turkey would be doing fine today.
As it stands the Turkish economy is doomed. Even if they were to raise interest rates now, it wouldn't be enough to stop the inevitable downfall.
It's not just about Islamic principals. Erdogan actually seems to believe that a lower interest rate will lower inflation. Either that or he's just pretending so that his friends and family can get access to cheap loans.
For example the Canal Istanbul project, 80% of people in Istanbul are against it but Erdogan's friends and family own most of the land which is set to be developed.
There's the Organization of Turkic States or Turkic Council, which is something like the Arab League, but that's as far as Erdogan's fantasies will go.
Erdogan wants to establish a Turkic empire or Sultanate with Istanbul at the epicenter and himself as undisputed Sultan.
Realistically though he will never be able to take any part of Iran or Russia. Beating militant groups or ethnic groups is one thing but Iran is a regional power and Russia is a superpower in the new tripolar world.
On top of that, the Turkic speaking people in former Soviet states do not want to be subservient to Erdogan or anyone in Istanbul for that matter. Even Aliyev does not want to be subservient to Istanbul and he's so corrupt he's funneling millions out of Baku as we speak.
That's another issues, the former Soviet states are corrupt and poor. Not only that but they generally grativate towards Russia and they are more secular than Erdogan's Turkey. The central Asian nations are heavily influenced by Russian culture whereas Anatolian Turks are more Europeanized, Persianized and Islamized.
So it's nice to dream and a fantasy is one thing but reality is another. While Erdogan fantasizes about a new neo-ottoman empire, most Turks are now more concerned about whether they can buy bread and pay their rent next month.
See if Iran has economic issues, well there's a reason behind that, harsh US sanctions. But Turkey, they're a NATO ally with US bases on their soil. They have close economic ties with the EU and the west. So it's nothing less than corruption and mismanagement on a monumental scale.
Erdogan wants to establish a Turkic empire or Sultanate with Istanbul at the epicenter and himself as undisputed Sultan.
Realistically though he will never be able to take any part of Iran or Russia. Beating militant groups or ethnic groups is one thing but Iran is a regional power and Russia is a superpower in the new tripolar world.
On top of that, the Turkic speaking people in former Soviet states do not want to be subservient to Erdogan or anyone in Istanbul for that matter. Even Aliyev does not want to be subservient to Istanbul and he's so corrupt he's funneling millions out of Baku as we speak.
That's another issues, the former Soviet states are corrupt and poor. Not only that but they generally grativate towards Russia and they are more secular than Erdogan's Turkey. The central Asian nations are heavily influenced by Russian culture whereas Anatolian Turks are more Europeanized, Persianized and Islamized.
So it's nice to dream and a fantasy is one thing but reality is another. While Erdogan fantasizes about a new neo-ottoman empire, most Turks are now more concerned about whether they can buy bread and pay their rent next month.
See if Iran has economic issues, well there's a reason behind that, harsh US sanctions. But Turkey, they're a NATO ally with US bases on their soil. They have close economic ties with the EU and the west. So it's nothing less than corruption and mismanagement on a monumental scale.
Water protests spread in Iran
Farmers in a second province in Iran protest the water crisis in their region.
www.al-monitor.com
Farmers in a second province in Iran protest the water crisis in their region.
Water protests spread in Iran
Farmers in a second province in Iran protest the water crisis in their region.
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Water protests spread in Iran
Farmers in a second province in Iran protest the water crisis in their region.
Water protests spread in Iran
Farmers in a second province in Iran protest the water crisis in their region.
تنها راه کنترل وضعیت ثبتنام کسانی که زمین کشاورزی دارن و به کار کشاورزی مشغول هستند تو یک سامانه هست
بعداً باید برای این افراد یارانه و تسهیلات در نظر گرفته بشه و محدودیتهای شدید روی کشاورزی اعمال بشه
با این شرایط دیگه تو ایران به جز در چند استان نمیشه کشاورزی کرد. رسماً میرینن تو منابع آبی بعد اعتراض میکنند
بعداً باید برای این افراد یارانه و تسهیلات در نظر گرفته بشه و محدودیتهای شدید روی کشاورزی اعمال بشه
با این شرایط دیگه تو ایران به جز در چند استان نمیشه کشاورزی کرد. رسماً میرینن تو منابع آبی بعد اعتراض میکنند
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روند کشاورزی باید ارتقاء پیدا کنه و بهینهسازی بشه. فعلا نسبت محصولات در مقایسه با مساحت مزرعه و استفاده از آب بسیار کمه.
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تنها راه کنترل وضعیت استفاده از روشهای نوین آبیاری بجای روشهای به جا مانده از ۸۰۰۰ سال قبل هست
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این حرفها ۲۰ سال پیش درمان کار بود. الان کار از کار گذشته
اگه همین امروز به فرض محال بتونیم کشاورزها رو آموزش بدیم و انگیزه اقتصادی براشون ایجاد کنیم که ارتقاء بدن، دست کم یکی دو دهه طول میکشه تا جبران این همه سال خشکسالی و کشاورزی به بدترین روشهای ممکن تو اوج خشکسالی بشه
اگه همین امروز به فرض محال بتونیم کشاورزها رو آموزش بدیم و انگیزه اقتصادی براشون ایجاد کنیم که ارتقاء بدن، دست کم یکی دو دهه طول میکشه تا جبران این همه سال خشکسالی و کشاورزی به بدترین روشهای ممکن تو اوج خشکسالی بشه
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اره ..ولی به تدریج...چرا که بالاخره باید این روشهای نوین اجرایی بشن. گمان نمیکنم چارهای باشه. جیره بندی راه حل موقتیه. گرچه کشاورزان مقصر این اوضاع نیستند ولی بی تقصیر هم نیستند. باید در حل مسأله شریک باشند.
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من هم اصلاً حرفی ندارم که قطعاً بهترین راه و پایدارترین راه اصلاح روشهای بد کشاورزی هست
اما زمانبر هست و نیازمند آموزش و سرمایهگذاری هست تا آیندگان ازش بهره ببرند
کشاورز تا زمانی که قانع نشه پول بیشتری گیرش میاد دنبال دردسر نمیره
اون هم به ویژه تو کشور ما که کشاورزی تو یه سری از مناطق کلاً اشتباه هست و توسط افراد با دانش کم انجام میشه که اصلاً دنبال به روز شدن هم نیستند
دولت باید رسماً جلوی کشاورزی دست کم برای یک سری محصولات رو در یک سری از مناطق بگیره. اینی که بری تو شهرهای خشک هندونه بکاری جز خیانت به مردم و خاک و آب کشور چی میشه نامش رو گذاشت؟
باید کشاورزان واقعی شناسایی بشن، سامانههای الکترونیکی برای ساماندهی به داستان ساخته بشه، کمیتههای استانی و شهری در جاهایی که کشاورزی گسترش زیاد داره تشکیل بشن، وامهای بلند مدت ۱۰ تا ۲۰ ساله با سود کمتر از نرخ بانکی به کشاورزان داده بشه به شرط خرید تجهیزات جدید و ساخت و سازهایی که تحت نظارت و تائید کمیته باشه، کشاورزان به سامانههای مالیاتی وصل بشن و درآمدشون کنترل بشه، کسانی که بهرهوری بالا نسبت به میزان آبی که مصرف میکنند دارن از تسهیلات مالیاتی و بانکی برخوردار بشن و هزاران چیز دیگه که انجامشون زمانبر هست
فعلاً راه حل کوتاه مدت این هست که دولت کشاورزی رو باهاش برخورد کنه و از قشر ضعیف جامعه با کمکهایی مانند یارانه و اینجور چیزها به صورت مسکن موقتی پشتیبانی کنه تا اون فرآیندها و زیرساختها به مرور ایجاد بشن
در این بین آب صنعت و نوشیدن مردم هم میتونه با پروژههای شیرینسازی آب و انتقال آب تامین بشه
اما زمانبر هست و نیازمند آموزش و سرمایهگذاری هست تا آیندگان ازش بهره ببرند
کشاورز تا زمانی که قانع نشه پول بیشتری گیرش میاد دنبال دردسر نمیره
اون هم به ویژه تو کشور ما که کشاورزی تو یه سری از مناطق کلاً اشتباه هست و توسط افراد با دانش کم انجام میشه که اصلاً دنبال به روز شدن هم نیستند
دولت باید رسماً جلوی کشاورزی دست کم برای یک سری محصولات رو در یک سری از مناطق بگیره. اینی که بری تو شهرهای خشک هندونه بکاری جز خیانت به مردم و خاک و آب کشور چی میشه نامش رو گذاشت؟
باید کشاورزان واقعی شناسایی بشن، سامانههای الکترونیکی برای ساماندهی به داستان ساخته بشه، کمیتههای استانی و شهری در جاهایی که کشاورزی گسترش زیاد داره تشکیل بشن، وامهای بلند مدت ۱۰ تا ۲۰ ساله با سود کمتر از نرخ بانکی به کشاورزان داده بشه به شرط خرید تجهیزات جدید و ساخت و سازهایی که تحت نظارت و تائید کمیته باشه، کشاورزان به سامانههای مالیاتی وصل بشن و درآمدشون کنترل بشه، کسانی که بهرهوری بالا نسبت به میزان آبی که مصرف میکنند دارن از تسهیلات مالیاتی و بانکی برخوردار بشن و هزاران چیز دیگه که انجامشون زمانبر هست
فعلاً راه حل کوتاه مدت این هست که دولت کشاورزی رو باهاش برخورد کنه و از قشر ضعیف جامعه با کمکهایی مانند یارانه و اینجور چیزها به صورت مسکن موقتی پشتیبانی کنه تا اون فرآیندها و زیرساختها به مرور ایجاد بشن
در این بین آب صنعت و نوشیدن مردم هم میتونه با پروژههای شیرینسازی آب و انتقال آب تامین بشه
The government really needs to get organized and step up its game when it comes to farming and irrigation.
They should help farmers by giving out subsidies, cheap loans for farming equipment built in Iran, seeds that are drought resistant with higher yields, modernising farms with cheap yet effective methods.
Simply using some PvP pipe and inexpensive sensors as opposed to simply pouring the water onto the crop makes a huge difference, especially when it comes to efficiency and water conservation.
Many farmers simply lack the knowledge. The government should set up free training courses or even post videos onto an online portal for registered farmers. Also farmers should be given insentives to take part and learn. All these measures will pay for themselves if undertaken.
They should help farmers by giving out subsidies, cheap loans for farming equipment built in Iran, seeds that are drought resistant with higher yields, modernising farms with cheap yet effective methods.
Simply using some PvP pipe and inexpensive sensors as opposed to simply pouring the water onto the crop makes a huge difference, especially when it comes to efficiency and water conservation.
Many farmers simply lack the knowledge. The government should set up free training courses or even post videos onto an online portal for registered farmers. Also farmers should be given insentives to take part and learn. All these measures will pay for themselves if undertaken.
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