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Interesting an Arab thinks he knows more about Afghanistan than Iranians.....buddy you ever heared of "city of Herat"...it is called a "Persian city"...every thing and every one talks and walks persian...half of Afghans speak farsi...no.... not Turkish...the only reason turks are there is Nato....Pakistan is the other major stake holder in Afghanistan...do study a bit of geography and history..
 
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Interesting an Arab thinks he knows more about Afghanistan than Iranians.....buddy you ever heared of "city of Herat"...it is called a "Persian city"...every thing and every one talks and walks persian...half of Afghans speak farsi...no.... not Turkish...the only reason turks are there is Nato....Pakistan is the other major stake holder in Afghanistan...do study a bit of geography and history..
Don't feed the troll. He is here to troll. What does an Arab know about Iran-Afghanistan relationship?
 
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No wonder why you guys triggered falcon29 now it all makes sense.. you have to much delulu and wishful thinkings. Iran can't do shit for Taliban nor Afghanistan except a trading partner. House is full already Turkey-Pakistan influence zone. You have trade as you border there but that is as much as the good will goes..

Lol at Russia willing to assist? They have an agreement to secure Tajikstan border due to CSTO if it spilds over to the Tajikistan territory like Armenia it only extends to Tajikistan mainland CSTO.. Russia won't cross Pakistan

They want everyone to be slaves to Persia, and to pray five times a day to Iranian civilization. Meanwhile they are having electricity shortages right now in their great civilization. Iran will gladly team up with India and Russia to kill Afghani's and impose Persian ideology on them. Pakistan is in their way, however, so it will not happen.
 
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Interesting an Arab thinks he knows more about Afghanistan than Iranians.....buddy you ever heared of "city of Herat"...it is called a "Persian city"...every thing and every one talks and walks persian...half of Afghans speak farsi...no.... not Turkish...the only reason turks are there is Nato....Pakistan is the other major stake holder in Afghanistan...do study a bit of geography and history..

Turkey ain't leaving while NATO will and has invested interests there it is a ground reality in accordance with Pakistan the major stake-holder and influence because with their denial Turkey won't have a presence but it is a direct PK allowance that will allow them to remain.. Yes there are dari speakers allover the region such as the tajiks that border China including.. But it doesn't translate into major influence from the political stand-point. Despite their being relations between Iran-Taliban... The influence is limited to trading and cooperation people to people but not political.. I am not an anti as per say
 
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Any third country in Afghanistan be it Russian, Indian or turkish are in Afghanistan if Iran and Pakistan agree to that..like it or not it is cultural affinity of Afghan people with the two nations of iran and Pakistan that will be at work..just watch some Afghan TV...and by the way 3 million Afghans live in iran work in iran and their children go to school in iran and they have free health care also.
 
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Any third country in Afghanistan be it Russian, Indian or turkish are in Afghanistan if Iran and Pakistan agree to that..like it or not it is cultural affinity of Afghan people with the two nations of iran and Pakistan that will be at work..just watch some Afghan TV...and by the way 3 million Afghans live in iran work in iran and their children go to school in iran and they have free health care also.

LMAO this is hilarious concoction.. You went way over board here my mann..:lol: You are overestimating here way to much.. Give allowance to anyone? If that was the case you would have asked everyone to leave Azerbaijan and Iraq.. You don't have that influence anywhere period..
 
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Turkey ain't leaving while NATO will and has invested interests there it is a ground reality in accordance with Pakistan the major stake-holder and influence because with their denial Turkey won't have a presence but it is a direct PK allowance that will allow them to remain.. Yes there are dari speakers allover the region such as the tajiks that border China including.. But it doesn't translate into major influence from the political stand-point. Despite their being relations between Iran-Taliban... The influence is limited to trading and cooperation people to people but not political.. I am not an anti as per say
Why did you have to summon that insecure guy again. It's like he comes out of a well every time his name is mentioned to complain about Iran. A weird obsession Imao.

I don't think anything you said is wrong per say, that being said Iran and Pakistan have a strong understanding of the countries dynamic and have entirely avoided creating the same mistakes that the Brits, Soviets and Americans have made for themselves.
If Turkey wishes to interfere themselves into Afghanistan by importing Arabs (although not confirmed for sure) and forging religious or ethnic relations, then by all means, might as well start piling cash to burn.
 
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Any third country in Afghanistan be it Russian, Indian or turkish are in Afghanistan if Iran and Pakistan agree to that..like it or not it is cultural affinity of Afghan people with the two nations of iran and Pakistan that will be at work..just watch some Afghan TV...and by the way 3 million Afghans live in iran work in iran and their children go to school in iran and they have free health care also.

I have no doubt Iran will play its cards in Afghanistan, however, saying it will be pro-Taliban or satisfy Pakistan's interests is misleading. It will be leaning towards Russian/Indian policy in Afghanistan.
 
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Why did you have to summon that insecure guy again. It's like he comes out of a well every time his name is mentioned to complain about Iran. A weird obsession Imao.

I don't think anything you said is wrong per say, that being said Iran and Pakistan have a strong understanding of the countries dynamic and have entirely avoided creating the same mistakes that the Brits, Soviets and Americans have made for themselves.
If Turkey wishes to interfere themselves into Afghanistan by importing Arabs (although not confirmed for sure) and forging religious or ethnic relations, then by all means, might as well start piling cash to burn.

This was a measured take.. I agree somewhat. But Turkey is not here to fight Taliban that much is clear they have no bone to pick with Taliban. They are none fighting element in the Afghan struggle between both ANA or Taliban it also states in the reports clearly that they are in fact not here to fight taliban but here to stay alongside the winning side which it looks like to be Taliban in this case since they already control 85% of the country..

I have no doubt Iran will play its cards in Afghanistan, however, saying it will be pro-Taliban or satisfy Pakistan's interests is misleading. It will be leaning towards Russian/Indian policy in Afghanistan.

Russia-India has no say there or cards to play with but to cooperate with Pakistan/Turkey/China on Afghanistan's new reality. So there is really not much of a struggle or anything to play really. Are Iran and Russia in agreement with how things going now yes because they are on board with this new political reality and wanna make sure their is trade connectivity with whoever takes power. The same with India because it really can't do anything really nor has any cards to play with. It has sort of come to conclusion
 
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Iran already stated its stand in Afghanistan.
Taliban are part of now and future of Afghanistan reality , but they are not all of it.


 
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Iran claims Taliban is part of Afghanistan’s ‘reality’
Iran already stated its stand in Afghanistan.
Taliban are part of now and future of Afghanistan reality , but they are not all of it.



This was exact my point
 
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@Falcon29

You have to change your engagement methods give some respite in convos in order to engage in fruitful discussions in that way convos is enjoyable..

But rest assured you are better conversationalist than Ceylal.. I have blocked him and never done this beofre it says alot
 
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You have to change your engagement methods give some respite in convos in order to engage in fruitful discussions in that way convos is enjoyable

Curious question Titanium considering we are in the chill thread

Do you think Israel will eventually attempt an air operation to attack Natanz and maybe some other nuclear sites or will they continue to complain hoping the Americans will do something about it.
 
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Iran claims Taliban is part of Afghanistan’s ‘reality’


This was exact my point
Iran point is that they are not all of it. as current government also is not all of it.
they failed previously when they wanted to be all of it and they will fail again if they try to do so. afghans must learn that they are not homogenous nation, they are different people with different believes , they most learn to compromise if they want a country named Afghanistan be there in future
 
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No wonder why you guys triggered falcon29 now it all makes sense.. you have to much delulu and wishful thinkings. Iran can't do shit for Taliban nor Afghanistan except a trading partner. House is full already Turkey-Pakistan influence zone. You have trade as you border there but that is as much as the good will goes..

Lol at Russia willing to assist? They have an agreement to secure Tajikstan border due to CSTO if it spilds over to the Tajikistan territory like Armenia it only extends to Tajikistan mainland CSTO.. Russia won't cross Pakistan

What are you trying to suggest? That the Taliban are going to disregard Iran's concerns or worse, choose to pose a threat to Iran? No, they won't, because that would imply Iran throwing her full weight behind a host of factions that have issues with the Taliban, and Afghanistan being the relatively fractured society it still is, and Iran having experience in establishing networks of allies there since the war against Soviet occupiers in the 80's, this is what would occur.

However, that's not what the Taliban want. They're not interested in another three or four decades of war either. Which is why they've made all these overtures towards Iran and have given Tehran concrete assurances on what matters most to Iran, namely:

1) Not to create any direct security threats for Iran.
2) Not to host nor support any anti-Iranian terrorist proxies either.
3) To try and find a political power sharing understanding with Iran's local allies, instead of fighting them.
4) Not to think of harming Afghan Moslem Shia civilian populations.
5) Cooperate with Iran against "I"SIS-K.

And if you believe Russia is going to easily allow a regime to take over in Kabul that is hostile to Moscow's interests, then you're the one having delusions. And that too, the Taliban are aware of. Hence why they are mindful of not "crossing" Russia either.

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Any third country in Afghanistan be it Russian, Indian or turkish are in Afghanistan if Iran and Pakistan agree to that..like it or not it is cultural affinity of Afghan people with the two nations of iran and Pakistan that will be at work..just watch some Afghan TV...and by the way 3 million Afghans live in iran work in iran and their children go to school in iran and they have free health care also.

The total of legal and illegal Afghan residents in Iran, is actually as high as 4 million. That's slightly more than 10% of Afghanistan's population.

Those with little to no knowledge of the Afghan issue seem to be stuck in the 1990's, believing this is a zero sum game between a supposed Pakistan-Taliban axis and the rest. In reality, none of the sides is under the delusion that anything but power sharing will be possible barring many more years of war and instability that will risk spilling over borders - which thankfully, none of the actors with a direct stake in this wants.
 
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