Iranian Chill Thread

[sha ah]

Well in general things seem to have winded down in Syria in recent years. There seems to be a truce with the YPG/PKK on one side and a truce with Turkey on the other. Turkey seems content with a buffer zone stretching from the Mediterranean to Iraq. Realistically from a geo strategic standpoint, Syria's best option right now seems to be to wait for a good opportunity before pouncing. Even before the recent Idlib offensive, Hezbollah and Iran, because of sanctions and the circumstances, were beginning to reduce their activity in Syria. Only time will tell.

Or the iranians have got indigenous production of certain weapons types up and running in syria and lebanon and no longer have to ship in weapons and equipments of certain types.
For all we know the precision guidance manufacturing program is up and running in lebanon with iran now only having to bring in some components for the final assembly just like in yemen.

Or the israelis are simply blowing smoke out of their zionist ar$eholes again.....
I think thats just as likely as well.

 

[Aramagedon]

Most of yank cities have become big toilets like european medivel ages

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/inves...streets-we-asked-the-mayor-of-la-why/2311759/

Meanwhile the yankees are saving face, on the ground the situation is much worse in yankee land.

 

[Aramagedon]

Venezuela killed dozens of Americans:


https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_2dTi_A2DV/?igshid=jnwv7xen7eoh

 

[925boy]

first turkey lack PGCC military power,

is this really true? pls explain further.

turkey has a more vulnerable economy and last,

Agreed. dunno how they have high/good GDP but once US annouces plans of sancations on TUrkey their LIRa collapses..weird weird.

Iran has a land route to all Kurdish lands.

Will Kurdish groups actually help Iran in actual war situation? can Iran actually organize, motivate and direct them? or are they selfish group looking out only for their interests?

on the other hand it might help to reunify Syria under Assad leadership.

Good point. btw he needs to revise constitution and get govt going...Russia geting tired of him stalling/ not doing that.
means our forces and allies can focus on Israel and turkey (in case of conflict).

so this conflict would be more in our favor and turkey would be in very bad position, thus it will not happen.

Yes, even the article states this same conclusion.
As Nigerian slang would go : "Turkey no be Iran's mate 4 Middle East" translation - Turkey isnt Iran's peer in the Middle East. I used to think so, but the article confirmed it. Geography def disadvantages TUrkey....for TUrkey to move anythign from TUrkey to Persian Gulf will take so much more than GCC countries for eg.

but Turkish leadership proved last year that they do not play with our rules so who know??

BUt they also dont play with IRan. period.

 

[Mithridates]

is this really true? pls explain further.

well only Saudi Arabia has more power than turkey, let alone the whole PGCC... if i'm not wrong PGCC air forces is as large as Russian air force, also they have the quality.

Agreed. dunno how they have high/good GDP but once US annouces plans of sancations on TUrkey their LIRa collapses..weird weird.

Saudis have just one income source, the oil. and they worked hard to secure that. even in the raid on Aramco missiles and drones bypassed ~5 patriot batteries. on the other hand turkey has a diverse economy with many smaller businesses that in any case of war they will be the first ones to get crushed under the burden of war. similar thing happened in Iran when US put sanctions on us but government tried to give them loans so they can survive. but if the Yemen scenario happens to turkey will they be able to back those businesses?? Saudis had financial backbone to survive the attack on Aramco, turkey can't resist such attack on it's economic centers. also they do not have air defense capability of SA. so more successful attacks and more vulnerable targets.

Will Kurdish groups actually help Iran in actual war situation? can Iran actually organize, motivate and direct them? or are they selfish group looking out only for their interests?

they do suicide bombing in turkey so i guess they have the motivation. also unlike Yemen situation turkey has a lot of not happy domestic Kurdish population in it's east. they are various groups among the Kurds which some might not like Iran but you just have to choose the right group. also i am sure kurds have more hatred toward turkey than Iran as turkey treats them like shit.

BUt they also dont play with IRan. period.

i don't think iran need them, if they stay neutral in region we would not have any problem with them.

 

[925boy]

well only Saudi Arabia has more power than turkey, let alone the whole PGCC... if i'm not wrong PGCC air forces is as large as Russian air force, also they have the quality.

Ok, i agree, but what about ground forces? i think PGCC has less than useless ground forces but i believe the Turks field at least 100-300K good ground forces they can use to make a difference in a war? Just wondering.

even in the raid on Aramco missiles and drones bypassed ~5 patriot batteries.

This operation was literally military magic. Probably one of Iran's most skillful military operations in recent decades.

on the other hand turkey has a diverse economy with many smaller businesses that in any case of war they will be the first ones to get crushed under the burden of war. similar thing happened in Iran when US put sanctions on us but government tried to give them loans so they can survive. but if the Yemen scenario happens to turkey will they be able to back those businesses?? Saudis had financial backbone to survive the attack on Aramco, turkey can't resist such attack on it's economic centers. also they do not have air defense capability of SA. so more successful attacks and more vulnerable targets.

Agreed. And Turkey cant block or stop Iranian ballistic missiles. I know some TUrks might trigger to read that on this forum but i believe thats the truth. Patriots are eh...decent...some PDFers wont call them fake because they are "American made"(i believe they are good, and good enough isnt always good enough in real war situation involving BMs imo)

i don't think iran need them, if they stay neutral in region we would not have any problem with them.

Understood. THey are also not great militarily. THey performed poorly against TUrkey recently, and against ISIS few years ago in IRaq....after the entire NATO, EU, Iran, US, ISrael, gave them weapons and intelligence and training. GOd help those people man.

i don't think iran need them, if they stay neutral in region we would not have any problem with them.

Btw what i meant by "Turkey wont play with Iran" is that Turkey wont do anything that provokes Iran militarily.

 

[SubWater]

Iran and Turkey direct confrontation is wishful thinking and won't happen. Iran & Turkey are not that much stupid to destroy each other for yankees wishes.

 

[Shawnee]

Can Iran and Turkey collaborate in Libya? Should Iran stay away from Libya?
I know that Syria and Russia support Hafter but I don’t think Hafter is a good option. Why should Iran be silent on the rise of Hafter?

Quite consideration of collaboration with others in Libya is not a bad idea. It is more or less a stalemate.

Syrian card is used against us by others. We need to be proactive even more.

 

[Mithridates]

Ok, i agree, but what about ground forces? i think PGCC has less than useless ground forces but i believe the Turks field at least 100-300K good ground forces they can use to make a difference in a war? Just wondering.

turkey is not that different than PGCC, some year ago kurds managed to destroy ~20 of their tanks and APCs inside an valley. but it did not exploded on internet like for example ambush on Saudi tanks in Yemen. turkey keeps things quite unlike Saudis. however i can't judge their forces and their capability but i know turkey shares like three times more border with kurds than Saudis do with Yemen. it can turn really ugly for them.

 

[aryobarzan]

American soldiers as depicted by Hollywood and as seen in real life in Venezuela..!!!

 

[Philosopher]

Hornets are brutal:

 

[Aramagedon]

 

[QWECXZ]

Guys, did anyone else in Tehran feel the earthquake?

 

[Aramagedon]

Guys, did anyone else in Tehran feel the earthquake?

Yes, it was like 5.5

 

[QWECXZ]

Yes, it was like 5.5

Yes. And it was near Damavand. Two of the major fault lines in the province of Tehran are Mosha-Fasham and Roudehen fault lines that are close to Damavand. They can cause major earthquakes. I hope this was the main earthquake and it won't be a prelude to a stronger earthquake.