Dear
@Militant Atheist, as
@Abii mentioned, it seems as if the problem's yours.
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Hey guys, what's up,
@rahi2357 dude, it's the second time in a row I can feel your absence here, confess man, what's up are we gonna see you coupled, too.
@haman10 ,
@kollang @Daneshmand,
@Serpentine guys, as it is the daheye fajr ceremonies, and I can see people very happy all around, I've got a question, I'd like to here you guys and others view point on it,
Do you guys have any idea what where the causes for the qiyam 15 khordad 42 incident? and what is your view points on it?
I do not understand what you want to know since so many scholars have written so much on these issues and you can read those "scholarly works"
. Maybe you are just probing [us] here.
Personally, I see history as inevitable. I believe in inevitability of what has already happened. In this context, I see little reason for revisionism or for re-interpretations leading to fantasy lands, that never existed (and will never exist).
Nations and societies behave pretty much like chaotic systems. Hard to predict. But they eventually settle down for what they really
deserve and require. Such was the case of revolution which happened because the calcified and rusted Iranian monarchy could not respond to desires of significant majority of people. And this actually goes way beyond Pahlavi and the roots of Iranian revolution and its causes actually has to be searched in Qajar period IMO. In fact if you wanted to ask a scholarly question, it should not have been what my or others opinion is of revolution and dahe fajr or 15 khordad, but what would have been the opinion of people during Qajar period about these things, had they been alive today. This would have been more instructive.
The yet non-resolved issue of dualism between Western Modernism and Traditional Conservatism which basically came to Iranian society in Qajar era, was the root cause of 15 Khordad. Iranian leaders, scholars, akhonds, politicians and military Generals did not have a deep understanding of history, philosophy, science, arts, society, themselves and even their own religion. Therefore, they could not understand, assimilate with and rectify along, the rapidly changing world around themselves which came out of the enlightenment of Europe and its ever changing flavors. IMO, they still don't and this includes the so called educated general population of Iranians be they of Western inclinations or IR inclination. In short Iranians love to live their lives in the most superficial way, they can possibly can find and cling to. It was the same before 15 khordad and it is the same today.
But over all, was the 15 khordad and the subsequent revolution, a good thing? Hell yeah. It has allowed the Iranian nation to grow in ways that was not possible under monarchy. Societies like individuals need to grow. And this growth has stages and its own unique meaning for different societies. The inevitability of history necessitated Iranian revolution for this stage in growth of Iranian society. Mistakes and errors are of course part and parcel of the growth.
Will it remain forever? I don't know. The answer to this question depends on how IR will solve the centuries old question of dualism between objectivity of Western originated ideas of enlightenment with subjectivity of traditional religion. If they did solve it in a way that allowed further growth, IR will remain in one form or another for a very long time (as for as us mortals can be concerned for eternity). If not, then the inevitability of history can not wait for anyone, even for IR (or rather even IRI
, after all there is no guarantee clause in history).
It is rather a waste of time to write these things because I just come here to enjoy trolling
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