Iranian Chill Thread

[Serpentine]

I was born in July 22nd .

The interesting part is that , my favorite number is 22 and I didn't know I was born in this day .

Do you know why you like this number? Because in heart, you are a Freemason Illuminati Lucifer admirer. You ask why? Because 22=11+11

Btw, I was born on July 30th, so we are from the same month.

 

[The SiLent crY]

Do you know why you like this number? Because in heart, you are a Freemason Illuminati Lucifer admirer. You ask why? Because 22=11+11
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Btw, I was born on July 30th, so we are from the same month.

Yeah , Same month

By the way , I was born in Tir 31st .

I always feel special as I was born in last hours of a month with 31 days .

 

[rmi5]

@scythian500 shoma online hastid? mikhaastam dar moredi baahaatoun sohbt konam

 

[rahi2357]

Because in heart, you are a Freemason Illuminati Lucifer admirer. You ask why? Because 22=11+11
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Rosewater TRAILER (golab) - directed by jon stewart

 

[haman10]

Haman 10

 

[yavar]

@yavar
yavar jan , r44 ba sorena fargh dare ... 4 adad r44 az usa ba vasete kharidari shode va dar iran sakhte nashode
sorena ham yek project irani hast va shabihe r44 ast va hanoz parvaz nakarde....
hatta moshakhasate fanni in do ba ham fargh dare.....
tasvir 2 ta ro kenar ham bezari farghesh ro motevajeh mishi....
masala fasele safhe rotor az cabin ......nahve etesal dom be cabin ..... panjere cabin va .....

HI brother what do you want me to do ??

i could not understand what you trying to say . but what ever it is please let me know .

 

[scythian500]

@scythian500 shoma online hastid? mikhaastam dar moredi baahaatoun sohbt konam

بفرمایید؟

 

[rmi5]

بفرمایید؟

Salam, khoub hastid shoma?
bebakhshid ke tou oun thread, por e trolling boud va aslan harf e dorost va manteghi nemishod zad.
bebinid bozargavaar, yek moshkel e bozorgi ke khalabaan ha dar gozashteh daahtand, in boud ke ghaati mikardand ke kodoum havaapeyma doust va kodaam doshman hast. banaabar in, system haye tashkhis e doust az doshman ijaad shod. vaghti ke amrica masalan F-35 ra tolid mikoneh, in F-35 ha, havaapeyma haye F-35 e digeh ra be onvaan e doust mibineh, ke in baa'es misheh ke natouneh rouye ounhaa ghofl e raadaari bekoneh, va beheshoun shellik bekoneh. ya'ni masalan F-35 e holland nemitouneh F-35 e turkiye ra bezaneh va ya bar aks. vali kaari ke israel mikoneh, in hast ke avionics e in fighter ha ra khodesh mizaneh. in baaes misheh ke inhaa system e tashkhis e doust az doshman ra taghyir bedan va betounan ke F-35 haye keshvar haye digeh ra bezaneh tafaavot e asli injaast, aziz. pas moshkel e ghaziyeh, hamin system e tashkhis e doust az doshman hast, na elzaaman down grade kardan e fighter haye baghiyeh ye keshvar ha

 

[rmi5]

 

[New]

@New

آقای جعفری در این سخنرانی گفته است: "برخی از مسئولان وابستگی شان به مسئول بالاتری بوده و یکسری هم وابسته به آرای مردم هستند که در این میان نیز یک مشکلی
برای کار این مسئولان ایجاد می شود و آن هم فاصله گرفتن از عمل به تکلیف الهی است."


آقای جعفری این بخش را "ایجاد رفاه، امنیت، ایجاد بستری مناسب برای معیشت" خوانده و گفته "متاسفانه به خاستگاه اصلی مردم یعنی ارزش ها، اصول و باورهای آنها توجهی نداریم."


فرمانده سپاه "جوهره انقلاب اسلامی را ایستادگی در برابر نظام سلطه" خوانده و گفته "نباید در تصمیم گیری ها فقط مسائل مادی را در نظر بگیریم یا در بعد فشارهای اقتصادی دشمن، حرف و نگاهمان مادی باشد."

محمدرضا نقدی، رئیس سازمان بسیج هم در این مراسم خواهان تمرکز بر "پایگاه ها و مراکز تولید داخلی به جای تمرکز روی فضای مذاکرات" شده و گفته است: "نیازی نیست که نفت مان را به آنها بدهیم و منت امکانات آنها را بکشیم این ما هستیم که باید آنها را تحریم" و "با بستن شیرهای نفت مان آنها را فلج کنیم."

daashtam fek mikardam age ye sal ekhtiare kamelo midadand daste in azizan cheghad khoob mishod . ( win - win ) be in migan (if you know what i mean )

I know bro.

 

[Shahryar Hedayati]

@rmi5

che ajab ye sar o samoni be avatar dadi

 

[rmi5]

A documentary about Wahabism. it's a must watch video.

 

[Full Moon]

A documentary about Wahabism. it's a must watch video.

Thanks for bringing up the discussion.

I think that the most accurate term to use is Salafis (unless we mean a special Najdi flavor that the Najdi Salafi movement couldn’t really avoid). The ideas adopted by Salafis are older than Mohammed bin Abdulwahhab. They can be actually found in Ibn Taymiyah’s extensive writings (he died in 1328, while Ibin Abdulwahhab lived between 1703 -1792). Unlike what some people may think, Ibn Taymiyah is a central figure in Islamic Sunni theology. No wonder he is called “Shaikh Al Islam”.

Ibn Abdulwahhab was an extremely devoted follower of Ibn Taymiyah. Hands down. He generally didn’t come up with new ideas. He is only new addition was that a state must support the ideas for the ideas to prevail, which he managed to do through making an alliance with Al Saud family. Little he cared about the means to achieve this goal. Bloodshed or otherwise. If there is a central movement in Ibn Abdulwahhab's life it will be his trip to preform Hajj when he was 12-13. From my own reading, that trip was the trigger for his entire movement. He was deeply deeply affected by Shrines glorification practices in Mecca and Medina. I think the effect went to a personal level beyond religious belief. Needless to say that every minute of his time, and all of his writings afterwards was devoted to totally erase Shrines and whatever related to it.

 

[rmi5]

Thanks for bringing up the discussion.

I think that the most accurate term to use is Salafis (unless we talk about some special Najdi flavor that the Najdi Salafi movement couldn’t really avoid). The ideas adopted by Salafis are older than Mohammed bin Abdulwahhab. They can be actually found in Ibn Taymiyah’s extensive writings (he died in 1328, while Ibin Abdulwahhab lived between 1703 -1792). Unlike what some people may think, Ibn Taymiyah is a central figure in Islamic Sunni theology. No wonder he is called “Shaikh Al Islam”. That love and respect towards Ibn Taymiyah is, however, not shared by Sunni Sohpies - due to his strong arguments against Sophism. Most important Sunni Sohpies during Ibn Abdulwahhab’s time were the Ottomans.

Ibn Abdulwahhab was an extremely devoted follower of Ibn Taymiyah. Hands down. He generally didn’t come up with new ideas. He is only new addition was that a state must support his ideas for the ideas to prevail, which he managed to do through forging alliance with Al Saud family. Little he cared about the means to achieve this goal. Bloodshed or otherwise. If there is a central movement in Ibn Abdulwahhab;s life it will be his trip to preform Hajj when he was 12-13. From my own reading, that trip was the trigger for his entire movement. He was deeply deeply affected by Shrines glorification practices in Mecca and Medina. I think that effect went to a personal level beyond religious belief. You guessed it, every minute of his time and all of his writings afterwards was devoted to totally erase Shrines and whatever related to it.

Ibn Taymiyah is not an important person in non-Hanbali islamic faiths. Sophies in general have had historically problems with fiqh ulamah, so no wonder if they have had problems with Ibn Taymiyah as well. About Abdul-wahab, he somehow organized extremism and rationalized it, and gathered followers by doing plundering. As you said, most of his thoughts were not genuine. He was considering non-wahabis as kafir, in order for issue jihad against them. That's how they increased in numbers by plundering shias in Karbala, and sunnis in Ta'if. Wahabis themselves, generally, prefer not to refer to themselves as wahabis, and just call themselves sunni, although it's not always the case, and some few wahabis, openly call themselves as wahabis as well. Anyway, they are mostly called as wahabis by non-wahabi muslims, including the brother of Abdul wahab, who wrote a book against his brother, and the title of the book is clearly "In Rejecting wahabism" if I remember correctly.

 

[Full Moon]

It is really rare for Salafis to identify themselves as "Wahhabis". You are right, non-Salafis may call Salafis "Wahhabis", even when they pray together in one mosque.

I agree that the Takfeer rules were pretty loose during Al Saud's expansion wars in the 1700s. That was generally made for political reasons. Apparently, Ibn Abdulwahhab himself didn’t care much about the bloodshed so long as this will lead to a “status quo” which few people will care how it came together. Otherwise, Sunni Salafis don’t consider non-Salafis to be non-Muslims. The proof of this is their intermarriage, and any daily prayer that takes place in any Riyadh mosque, where the number of non-Salafis can exceed % 30 of those who perform the prayer.

You can go wrong about Salafis, but you will never be wrong about one thing, their complete lack of tolerance towards Shiasim. Once again, the finger prints of Ibn Taymiyah are found. If I can judge, I would say that among all of his writings, Ibn Taymiyah’s harshness against Shiasim was unmatched by any other religious groups he criticized. All that can be found in his book “Minhaj Asunah Annabawyyah "منهاج السنة النبوية”. He wrote it in response to Al Hilly’s book “Minhaj AlKaramah "منهاج الكرامة". Virtually, all of the current Salafi & Sunni arguments against Shiasim was taken from the strong critique of Ibn Taymiyah that he summrized in the aforesaid book.