Iranian Air Defense Systems

[TheImmortal]

+ many Ukhonto engineers are retired now and many lost theyr job, its possible Iran could recruit some of them for good cash

Denel’s employee numbers shrink 15% over the last year - defenceWeb

In a presentation to the Portfolio Committee on Public Enterprises today on its annual financial results for 2019/20, Denel revealed that it had lost nearly 500 employees over the last year. The presentation by Interim Group CEO William Hlakoane showed Denel’s workforce shrinking – as of 1 April...

www.defenceweb.co.za

" Many people have left Denel over the non-payment of salaries last year – a matter that went to court and is awaiting judgement by the Labour Court. Denel Dynamics, for example, has lost almost all its engineers, many of whom have gone to work for companies in the Middle East. "

I didnt say this new Iranian AD system has something to do with them, but I also read the story Iran was interested in the Umkhonto SAM missile:

IRAN LOOKS TO BUY SOUTH AFRICA’S UMKHONTO SURFACE TO AIR MISSILE – DCSS News

blogs.plymouth.ac.uk

SA hoping to sell weapons to Iran - defenceWeb

South Africa is hoping to sell some R1.5 billion worth of weapons to Iran, including Umkhonto surface-to-air missiles. This is according to an article published in Rapport, which says South Africa has requested permission from the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) to sell Iran the weapons...

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I think the Israeli’s also gave Iran the design too

Look at canisters of Iron dome

You guys need to realize there are only so many different ways to “skin” a cat. So for air defense platforms either the launch tubes will be circular like S-300, Arrow, etc. or they will be square like PAC-3, Khordad, Bavar and for shorter range systems square and compact with many canisters. No need to re design the wheel everytime a country creates an air defense system.

Doesn’t mean any system is copy of the other.

I doubt anyone would say this:

Is a copy of this:

 

[PeeD]

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What do you think boss?
Have we ever seen the launcher for the legend, the missile 358?

358 is man portable, an ambush SAM.
Majid is a different beast.

In some ways I would say Iran has now the second rank in SHORAD after Russia, surpassing even China

 

[Sineva]

+ many Ukhonto engineers are retired now and many lost theyr job, its possible Iran could recruit some of them for good cash

Denel’s employee numbers shrink 15% over the last year - defenceWeb

In a presentation to the Portfolio Committee on Public Enterprises today on its annual financial results for 2019/20, Denel revealed that it had lost nearly 500 employees over the last year. The presentation by Interim Group CEO William Hlakoane showed Denel’s workforce shrinking – as of 1 April...

www.defenceweb.co.za

" Many people have left Denel over the non-payment of salaries last year – a matter that went to court and is awaiting judgement by the Labour Court. Denel Dynamics, for example, has lost almost all its engineers, many of whom have gone to work for companies in the Middle East. "

I didnt say this new Iranian AD system has something to do with them, but I also read the story Iran was interested in the Umkhonto SAM missile:

IRAN LOOKS TO BUY SOUTH AFRICA’S UMKHONTO SURFACE TO AIR MISSILE – DCSS News

blogs.plymouth.ac.uk

SA hoping to sell weapons to Iran - defenceWeb

South Africa is hoping to sell some R1.5 billion worth of weapons to Iran, including Umkhonto surface-to-air missiles. This is according to an article published in Rapport, which says South Africa has requested permission from the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) to sell Iran the weapons...

www.defenceweb.co.za

I think that most of these ended up being poached by saudi to work on its drone program,with the most notable example being the saqr male class uav,which bore a rather,shall we say "striking",resemblance to the denel bataleur male class uav.
The claims of iran - south africa arms deals are echoed in this story,which was released when the wests propaganda campaign against iran was at full force in the early 2010s,so take everything in it with a very,very large grain[salt mines worth?] of salt.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ribed-its-way-into-iran-idUSBRE85E0CF20120615
In the end,south africa was no more a reliable supplier of weapons or technology than most of the other nations that iran attempted to work with in the 90s and 2000s.
Indeed theres probably only one military system that might well have come to iran from south africa,and that would`ve been the airframe or more likely airframe data/plans for what became the ababil 3 uav,altho there are some obvious differences to the denel seeker uav on which its based.

 

[PeeD]

I predicted such a system in 2019

Iranian Air Defense Systems

Since the site is still up, I feel confident to speak about some detail products: The product X-MR is basically all you need in terms of radar for a Iranian Pantsir. It is also what you need for the most critical component of the Bavar-373 system: the engagement radar. The most powerful thermal...

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So nobody got disappointed !

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448150212632002564

 

[Muhammed45]

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448190575845560322

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448191632541732865

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448191853610905603

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448197166732808192

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448200253363064834

 

[Muhammed45]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448150212632002564

I think that the 10 KM part could be solved by the new Iranian copy of Tor-M shorad.

 

[Sineva]

 

[makranman]

is it possible for majid to have 2 different missiles?
one for the day with no smoke. one for the night with smoke?

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448224750229147649

 

[Shams313]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448236205892673545

oaw...

 

[Draco.IMF]

Irans progress in AD systems is unbelievable....

 

[scimitar19]

Is it me or just an imagination? 8x8 truck can detach the payload and the canisters loaded with missiles can independently stand on its own using heat deflector as a solid stand. Truck drives away with its radar to somewhere else establishing wireless or wired connection with the canisters reducing the overal footprint. I say if this is true this approach gives significant flexibility over all Russian S300/400 systems with their cold launch system. S300/400 TELARS cant detach their canisters and always need to be on the truck.

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448269054377140227

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448268371271815168