Iranian Air Defense Systems

[Stryker1982]

I gotta say something.

If you have hair nets for hair.

Don't you need something for the beards?

 

[BHAN85]

Nice graphical representation how OTH work. As it can be seen,unlike conventional radars,OTH radars transmit and recive signals with help of ionosphere. Unlike conventional radars,OTH radar signal is transmited in to ionosphere,bounced from ionosphere,it reaches the target,than use same route back to OTH anntena. So,as it is clear,when we talk about range of OTH radar,it is not simple as with conventional radars. Because if you want OTH radar that will cover range 1000km from P.Gulf,deep in to S.Arabia...that OTH will be probably placed in central Iran...View attachment 884104

But ionosphere is changing all the time, every solar storm modify the ionosphere.

So that kind of radar wont work if there's a solar storm?

Today datalink is something you can easily install every where,and it is part of every ground base and air borne communication system. Even original F14 have digital datalink,IRIAF F14 were delivered without datalink but that is very easily to install even 30 years ago IRIAF could do it,because F14 already have central digital integrated system,it can proces and share data by default,you just need datalink device installed,which is basicly modem+encription. On other aircrafts that could be something Iran can do easily today,and I think it is done on many aircrafts,at least those they upgrade. I saw Iranian made avionics for Kowsar and if you look specification,you can see that networking is available by default on every comunication device and computer managment devices..etc. Datalink was big deal 40 yrs ago,today you have modems on your smartphone..and it is not science fiction to feed that information in to existing system. Whole point of integrated air defense network is networking and data sharing,and just think about things we have access comercialy today...

Maybe the science fiction is to have a weapon with datalink that it can't be hacked by the manufacturer of datalink.

Only God knows how many hardware backdoors must have all the telecom devices made by American and Chinese companies.

In a war against USA maybe it's safer no data link at all in every weapon

e.g: https://threatpost.com/two-critical-vulnerabilities-found-in-inmarsats-satcom-systems/128632/

 

[Sineva]

I gotta say something.

If you have hair nets for hair.

Don't you need something for the beards?

You make a valid point there.

 

[sanel1412]

But ionosphere is changing all the time, every solar storm modify the ionosphere.

So that kind of radar wont work if there's a solar storm?



Maybe the science fiction is to have a weapon with datalink that it can't be hacked by the manufacturer of datalink.

Only God knows how many hardware backdoors must have all the telecom devices made by American and Chinese companies.

In a war against USA maybe it's safer no data link at all in every weapon

e.g: https://threatpost.com/two-critical-vulnerabilities-found-in-inmarsats-satcom-systems/128632/

When it comes to OTH radars,Ionosphere just serve as reflecting surface,it just bounce signal

 

[BHAN85]

When it comes to OTH radars,Ionosphere just serve as reflecting surface,it just bounce signal

Yeah, but in the event of a solar storm it wont reflect uniformly the rf signals, I think.

So the best moment to start a nuclear first strike is when a great solar storm arrives to Earth. Because this kind of radars wont work well.

And because the effects of a EMP nuclear bomb can be confused with the solar storm effects.

And moreover in a hard solar storm the contact with early warning satellites can be lost (and if it's not lost, you can jammer with another satellites, and the operator will believe that is due to solar storm).

So no doubt the best moment to launch a nuclear first strike is when a solar storm comes to Earth.

 

[WudangMaster]

I gotta say something.

If you have hair nets for hair.

Don't you need something for the beards?

If hair is really a concern, then they need to wear full face/hair nets along with a face mask that would cover all of it. I had to wear that combination when I worked a cake line as a temp job a long time ago.

 

[TheImmortal]

Yeah, but in the event of a solar storm it wont reflect uniformly the rf signals, I think.

So the best moment to start a nuclear first strike is when a great solar storm arrives to Earth. Because this kind of radars wont work well.

And because the effects of a EMP nuclear bomb can be confused with the solar storm effects.

And moreover in a hard solar storm the contact with early warning satellites can be lost (and if it's not lost, you can jammer with another satellites, and the operator will believe that is due to solar storm).

So no doubt the best moment to launch a nuclear first strike is when a solar storm comes to Earth.

Nuclear first strike is done via ICBMs which OTH are useless against.

Also US/NATO uses space based satellites to detect BM launches so they will have a clear eye during your “solar storm” theory.

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1586027099080507392

 

[BHAN85]

Nuclear first strike is done via ICBMs which OTH are useless against.

Also US/NATO uses space based satellites to detect BM launches so they will have a clear eye during your “solar storm” theory.

You didnt read whole post, early warning satellites communication can be affected in the event of a solar storm.

When a solar storm arrives to Earth, sat communications are lost sometimes.

So a country must wait to a strong solar storm arrives to Earth (start a world nuclear war is not something than happens everyday) and then:

1) Jamming all satellites of the enemies, so they can't see nothing
2) Launch a continental EMP bomb over enemies, and they in the first moments would think that the effects are due to solar storm
3) Ionosphere will be fcked due to HEMP bomb and solar storm, so you can approach with your airplanes to finish the jobs bombing all the enemies, and OTH radar wont see a thing.
4) Enjoy new world order ruling the world.

 

[TheImmortal]

You didnt read whole post, early warning satellites communication can be affected in the event of a solar storm.

When a solar storm arrives to Earth, sat communications are lost sometimes.

So a country must wait to a strong solar storm arrives to Earth (start a world nuclear war is not something than happens everyday) and then:

1) Jamming all satellites of the enemies, so they can't see nothing
2) Launch a continental EMP bomb over enemies, and they in the first moments would thinks that the effects are due to solar storm
3) Ionosphere will be fcked due to HEMP bomb and solar storm, so you can approach with your airplanes to finish the jobs bombing all the enemies, and OTH radar wont see a thing.
4) Enjoy new world order ruling the world.

Except predicting solar storms since they are based on Corona mass ejections. It is not an exact science, like trying to predict when a volcano will erupt. There are signs and periods of increased activity, but it doesn’t mean that you can pinpoint it like the weather. Nor will you know how exactly the storm affects everything until it arrives.

Plus military grade satellites have more shielding and while solar storms can certainly affect sats and earth communications, it is more rare to get that severity of being “blinded”.

Hence why the theory isn’t anything a nuclear military power will base their first strike on as it’s not predictable enough. Don’t forget about all the nuclear subs Russia and US have. Second strike is still very real by both sides.

 

[BHAN85]

Except predicting solar storms since they are based on Corona mass ejections. It is not an exact science, like trying to predict when a volcano will erupt. There are signs and periods of increased activity, but it doesn’t mean that you can pinpoint it like the weather. Nor will you know how exactly the storm affects everything until it arrives.

Plus military grade satellites have more shielding and while solar storms can certainly affect sats and earth communications, it is more rare to get that severity of being “blinded”.

Hence why the theory isn’t anything a nuclear military power will base their first strike on as it’s not predictable enough. Don’t forget about all the nuclear subs Russia and US have. Second strike is still very real by both sides.

Solar storm path to Earth is about 70 hours of duration.

You dont need to predict a real damaging solar storm, you just use a big solar flare when arrives to Earth to make the sat jamming and launch hemps, so the enemy will believe that is due to solar storm, it doesnt matter if the solar storm really disrupt communications or not, what it matters if the enemy can believe the jamming is due to that.

WWIII will start in the event of a solar storm, it's the best moment, it's something very simple.

 

[BHAN85]

All warfare is based on deception -Sun Tzu

Do you know when a lot of solar flares were arriving to Earth? In January 2012. In the Hormuz Strait tensions event https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011–2012_Strait_of_Hormuz_dispute

With all the western massmedia repeating (falsely) that those solar storms could be disastrous. https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...asn-t-nearly-destroyed-by-a-2012-solar-storm/

And then it happened this https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/17-die-when-boat-capsizes-in-iran-report-11985

21st January 2012

That could have been the date of the start of WWIII.

But Iran didnt answer provocations.

At the same time, few days before, USA closed megaupload.com from Kim Dot Com, and Anonymous was threating with attacks that it would "close internet" and communications.
Better scenario possible to make the enemy believe that any communication disrupt was not war related

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1586239275758141440

 

[thesaint]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1587387398597615618

 

[Shams313]

B-373 version 2 Extended range, where is the pics? twitter says it was unveiled, as well as production line.