Iranian Air Defense Systems

[Blue In Green]

That would be the biggest mistake of their life. Because it would give very hard evidence especially with militias equipped with SAMs and ballistic missiles that Iran is directly involved. Small rocket attacks is one thing. Ballistic missiles on TEL killing hundreds of troops? War...

Then so be it I guess, it really feels inevitable.

 

[skyshadow]

That would be the biggest mistake of their life. Because it would give very hard evidence especially with militias equipped with SAMs and ballistic missiles that Iran is directly involved. Small rocket attacks is one thing. Ballistic missiles on TEL killing hundreds of troops? War...

well that is why we have to wait and see after all you can not attack any other and much much powerful country just because you are under attack from an armed group just like Saudi Arabia they cant attack Iran just because there enemy suddenly has ballistic missiles that looks exactly as Iranian missiles.

so i think if US attacks it find it self fighting a group with missiles the day after it finds out the same group now has air defenses a day after that it finds the same group now has advanced drones and a cyber unit all of which will be constantly be resupplied by IRGC so IRGC will make a short war an endless war as Saudi Arabia famously once said "Yemen war, it should have been a 1 year war if IRGC had not got involved"

 

[Oldman1]

well that is why we have to wait and see after all you can not attack any other and much much powerful country just because you are under attack from an armed group just like Saudi Arabia they cant attack Iran just because there enemy suddenly has ballistic missiles that looks exactly as Iranian missiles.

so i think if US attacks it find it self fighting a group with missiles the day after it finds out group now has air defenses a day after that it finds the same group now has advanced drones and a cyber unit all of with will be constantly be resupplied by IRGC so IRGC will make a short war an endless war as Saudi Arabia famously once said "Yemen war, it should have been a 1 year war if IRGC had not got involved"

This is the same mistake of Iran's thinking that we can't do anything. You think we wouldn't respond to embassy attacks? You lost your general because of that. What makes you think Trump won't do crap on attacking our bases again but this time with actual deaths? The U.S. military has been bombing PMU since they have been launching mortars and rocket attacks. Why is Iran willing to go so far now when it didn't back then?

 

[Shawnee]

This is the same mistake of Iran's thinking that we can't do anything. You think we wouldn't respond to embassy attacks? You lost your general because of that. What makes you think Trump won't do crap on attacking our bases again but this time with actual deaths? The U.S. military has been bombing PMU since they have been launching mortars and rocket attacks. Why is Iran willing to go so far now when it didn't back then?

What makes US look weak is prior history like leaving Afghanistan not like a winner. Against Taliban! It means you can do 9/11 and over time even win.

what choices does Trump have against a country with guided missiles, drones, etc and also with hidden nuclear and chemical power?
Can Trump claim a victory if mullahs flatten Israel?

Who will be the winner if everybody around reaches 0/0/0?
All the oil wells, refineries, foreign investments, gas pipelines under Mediterranean, factories, airports?
The country that does not have a proper airport and foreign investment or others?

 

[skyshadow]

This is the same mistake of Iran's thinking that we can't do anything. You think we wouldn't respond to embassy attacks? You lost your general because of that. What makes you think Trump won't do crap on attacking our bases again but this time with actual deaths? The U.S. military has been bombing PMU since they have been launching mortars and rocket attacks. Why is Iran willing to go so far now when it didn't back then?

because of the same logic that i tolled you about you can not attack an other country because you are under attack from someone else you can not go to war with US when your general is liked in an other country at least not for the first time US had a chance to kill General. Qaani too but it did not if they knew Iran will not start a war then they will have done it. they know Iranian backed group killed their soldiers but they cant attack Iran just because there soldiers killed in another country even if an IRGC soldier has pulled the trigger.

 

[Oldman1]

What makes US look weak is prior history like leaving Afghanistan not like a winner. Against Taliban! It means you can do 9/11 and over time even win.

what choices does Trump have against a country with guided missiles, drones, etc and also with hidden nuclear and chemical power?
Can Trump claim a victory if mullahs flatten Israel?

The last thing any country wants to compare is U.S. fighting the Taliban and one fighting Iran. Because back then Iraq believe they could fight the U.S. because of the fighting in Vietnam against guerrilla warfare and lost. Iran is right there. Easy to see, easy to bomb. Not hiding in civilian clothing. Russia lost in Afghanistan, do you believe Russia's military should still be respected right now? Should the U.S. military be respected even now?

 

[Shams313]

This is the same mistake of Iran's thinking that we can't do anything. You think we wouldn't respond to embassy attacks? You lost your general because of that. What makes you think Trump won't do crap on attacking our bases again but this time with actual deaths? The U.S. military has been bombing PMU since they have been launching mortars and rocket attacks. Why is Iran willing to go so far now when it didn't back then?

Most probably urs actions become aggressive towards pmu since ISIS lose their grounds and its always USA's interest not to leave any proxy, aka pmu alive and roaming around, so sonner or later they will turn their laser at pmu, and for prevention or retaliation or strengthening their position, pmu must do some plan countering USA existance in iraq, so they forcing USA both in politically and militarily to leave iraq.

So,if pmu strike USA bases with BM as a retaliation, nothing wonder us. And iran can actively support them for terminating USA grounds in iraq.

And u cant last there for long.

 

[Shawnee]

The last thing any country wants to compare is U.S. fighting the Taliban and one fighting Iran. Because back then Iraq believe they could fight the U.S. because of the fighting in Vietnam against guerrilla warfare and lost. Iran is right there. Easy to see, easy to bomb. Not hiding in civilian clothing. Russia lost in Afghanistan, do you believe Russia's military should still be respected right now? Should the U.S. military be respected even now?

Are you sure Iran does not have nuke?
Is it gonna be like Yemen war again? Or Hizbullah war? Israel is all right there too.
Let’s not talk about nuke, since even VX works like a nuke.
What is the plan for infrastructures when everybody reaches 0-0-0?

Afghanistan case showed the lack of will inside US for long term wars and the ability to sugarcoat defeat. Iraq and Iran are very different cases.

 

[Oldman1]

because of the same logic that i tolled you about you can not attack an other country because you are under attack from someone else you can not go to war with US when your general is liked in an other country at least not for the first time US had a chance to kill General. Qaani too but it did not if they knew Iran will not start a war then they will have done it. they know Iranian backed group killed their soldiers but they cant attack Iran just because there soldiers killed in another country even if an IRGC soldier has pulled the trigger.

Thats the wrong mindset. You are pushing Trumps buttons. Your general is able to go around Iraq as he pleases for many years, but attacking the embassy was the last straw and he died for that, thinking U.S. won't respond or can't do anything. I can guarantee Trump will respond if you launch ballistic missile attacks again.

 

[OldTwilight]

Long story short no stupid US general will tell you that he will attack you before he attacks you. You should leave your time and location of the attack a mystery.

It helps to save face for withdrawing troops to limited centers and decrease the chance of further rocket attacks by scaring them. It will be a bargaining chip in politics too.

You will be surprised to see how many mullahs and IRGC generals are cowards. They are not the same people when they were young. They calculate for months before anything. This tactic will probably help.

This is art of deception ...
They want we believe that they do nothing .

 

[Oldman1]

Are you sure Iran does not have nuke?
Is it gonna be like Yemen war again? Or Hizbullah war? Israel is all right there too.
Let’s not talk about nuke, since even VX works like a nuke.
What is the plan for infrastructures when everybody reaches 0-0-0?

Afghanistan case showed the lack of will inside US for long term wars and the ability to sugarcoat defeat. Iraq and Iran are very different cases.

No you saw Afghanistan case where the U.S. was fighting since 2001. Thats 19 years. 19 years of destruction. You want to see 19 years of bombing in Iran? Even if U.S. lost, its a Pyrrhic victory for Iran.

 

[Shawnee]

Trump just tweeted. World may forget COVID-19 soon.

 

[Oldman1]

Most probably urs actions become aggressive towards pmu since ISIS lose their grounds and its always USA's interest not to leave any proxy, aka pmu alive and roaming around, so sonner or later they will turn their laser at pmu, and for prevention or retaliation or strengthening their position, pmu must do some plan countering USA existance in iraq, so they forcing USA both in politically and militarily to leave iraq.

So,if pmu strike USA bases with BM as a retaliation, nothing wonder us. And iran can actively support them for terminating USA grounds in iraq.

And u cant last there for long.

Aggressive towards PMU? They are the ones who started it all and keep attacking with launching mortars and rockets while we are busy fighting ISIS.

Trump just tweeted. World may forget COVID-19 soon.

Just read that.

Donald J. Trump
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1245396884040097792

Upon information and belief, Iran or its proxies are planning a sneak attack on U.S. troops and/or assets in Iraq. If this happens, Iran will pay a very heavy price, indeed!

 

[Shawnee]

No you saw Afghanistan case where the U.S. was fighting since 2001. Thats 19 years. 19 years of destruction. You want to see 19 years of bombing in Iran? Even if U.S. lost, its a Pyrrhic victory for Iran.

If Everybody reaches 0-0-0, the one who lost more will be the loser.
A Pyrrhic victory or a pyrrhic loss better than just loss. You keep your dignity that way. Do you agree?

 

[Oldman1]

Is Iran's leader going to tweet on Trump's? Say "you can't do anything?"