Iran will not retreat an inch from its stance

[Tshering22]

why ? the current image of pakistan is not taking a beating enough- that you would wish the international world's class clown to be the face of pakistan?

Let them. It will be all the more better for us. . In Hindi, we call this Sone pe Suhaga.

 

[Hussein]

shared doesn't mean 50 - 50 at all, it means you pump out gas as much as you want if you've developed your side, unless you two have legal agreements. There is no international law regarding 50-50 as you said about shared oil/gas fields.

so you think this is normal that we don't take the 50-50
but they take 15 times exactly more than us meaning we loose 40 billions dollars

that's the difference between you and me:
i want my country to be developped and take its ressource
you prefer our president threatening with words usa and israel and so... and you feel our country is great

 

[Arian]

so you think this is normal that we don't take the 50-50
but they take 15 times exactly more than us meaning we loose 40 billions dollars

that's the difference between you and me:
i want my country to be developped and take its ressource
you prefer our president threatening with words usa and israel and so... and you feel our country is great

I didn't say it was normal. but It is legal and we have no legal means to exert pressure on them or sue them for that. you said Iran wasn't doing anything because it has enemies, I said Iran doesn't do anything because it has no legal grounds to sue them. the thing that Iran hasn't developed its own fields in that region is another matter.

and your second paragraph is B.S. the difference between me is that I don't judge the people I don't know but you open your mouth without using your head prior to it.

 

[Hussein]

I didn't say it was normal. but It is legal and we have no legal means to exert pressure on them or sue them for that. you said Iran wasn't doing anything because it has enemies, I said Iran doesn't do anything because it has no legal grounds to sue them. the thing that Iran hasn't developed its own fields in that region is another matter.

and your second paragraph is B.S. the difference between me is that I don't judge the people I don't know but you open your mouth without using your head prior to it.

the 50-50 is not legal but is moral

instead of insulting USA and Israel and taking money from banks for personal affairs,
he should develop these fields

but nothing is done. seems Iran having something more important than loosing 40 billions? lol

maybe you didn't understand but i guess more that you are unhonest because you prefer not see the truth on all of this:
because it is very simple: Qatar is taking massively gas. emirates was taking sand from our side.
emirates even used the arab gulf instead persian gulf in a meeting with Ahmadinejad

And yes i keep saying Ahmadinejad or Khamenei ... they prefer to care sponsoring hezbollah and terrorist groups or insulting ... than caring about our countyr
especially with 40 billion dollars that is much to do

I just judge you on your words on this forum
you prefer to insult zionism usa and so
but you never cared to the problems of our country.
we are used with kind of people like you , paid by the government , to come on the net to insult USA and try to convince other that your opinion is the Iranian opinion

 

[Arian]

the 50-50 is not legal but is moral

In politics and world affairs, talking about moral values is meaningless.

instead of insulting USA and Israel and taking money from banks for personal affairs,
he should develop these fields

I don't know whom you mean by 'he'. but I believe Iran wants to develop those gas/oil fields, the thing is that most companies do not like to invest in Iran since 2009 due to heavy sanctions we're under.

but nothing is done. seems Iran having something more important than loosing 40 billions? lol

Do you keep checking the news to see how other countries hesitate to invest in Iran's energy sector?

maybe you didn't understand but i guess more that you are unhonest because you prefer not see the truth on all of this:
because it is very simple: Qatar is taking massively gas. emirates was taking sand from our side.
emirates even used the arab gulf instead persian gulf in a meeting with Ahmadinejad

How Emirates is taking sand from our side?

And yes i keep saying Ahmadinejad or Khamenei ... they prefer to care sponsoring hezbollah and terrorist groups or insulting ... than caring about our countyr

the Hizbullah issue is another matter. I believe that Iran shouldn't have called for the destruction of Israel after the revolution. Israel had nothing to do with us and we could've simply ignored them if Khomeini had been so eager not to have ties with them. We started messing with Israel, but at this moment, supporting Hizbullah and Hamas is important because both of them, and in particular Hezbollah, are our proxies in the region. I hope you understand but I doubt.

I just judge you on your words on this forum

It's pretty clear that you haven't read my posts so far. so your legitimacy to judge me based on my words on this forum is surely challenged.

you prefer to insult zionism usa and so
but you never cared to the problems of our country.
we are used with kind of people like you , paid by the government , to come on the net to insult USA and try to convince other that your opinion is the Iranian opinion

Where did I insult the USA? I think the person who is trying to convince and manipulate others is you. and I'm used with people of your kind. retarded people like you who think everyone with a different opinion must be paid by the government. my name is Arian, I come from a non-religious family and I'm agnostic. You in the opposite, have a religious name Hussein, and probably come from a religious family because your parents have named you Hussein. People like you have no idea of what politics and international affairs are(That's obvious from your immature comments to be quite honest). You probably are among those people who supported the revolution backing 1979 but now you think it's a sign of wisdom to criticize them even if they're doing or saying something right. Your kind just wanna criticize others while they are unable to analyze the simplest stuff. lol regarding me, I'm an agnostic(with atheist sentiments) patriot. end of the story.

 

[Vassnti]

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Iran will not retreat an inch from its stance: Ahmadinejad

Which stance, the stance of taking over Lebanon by proxy with Hezbollah or perhaps the stance of backing bashar while he machineguns his own people? Or is it the stance of backing militia's in Iraq and Afghanistan or just the piss every one off stance?

 

[Arian]

Which stance, the stance of taking over Lebanon by proxy with Hezbollah or perhaps the stance of backing bashar while he machineguns his own people? Or is it the stance of backing militia's in Iraq and Afghanistan or just the piss every one off stance?

If you take over other countries and install puppet regimes in other countries that we've witnessed so many examples of it It's OK but if Iran supports a party which is popular in that country It's wrong? If you support the killing of Bahraini people because your interests in the region are threatened it's OK but if Iran does the same in Syria It's wrong? If you back Saudi Arabia which is backing suicide bombers in Iraq and you invade the country Iraq It's all OK but if Iran allegedly supports militia's in Iraq It's wrong? If you from thousands of miles away install a brutal regime like the Taliban in Afghanistan and later when they disobeyed you you oust them It's OK but if Iran wants to play a role in its neighboring country It's wrong?

I don't say what Iran is doing is not wrong. It's morally wrong. but I'm just trying to point out the double standards.

 

[Vassnti]

Actually last time i looked NZ hadnt taken over any one.

Yes i agree that the Saudis are up to the necks in Iraq as well and if both sides would piss off perhaps Iraq might have a chance.

I think the killings in Bahrain and the show trials of the medical staff are abhorent.

We actually dont have any interests in the middle east other than selling you sheep.

If you want me to agree that Saudi, Iran and the Yanks are all screwing with the middle east then sure i agree.

 

[Arian]

Actually last time i looked NZ hadnt taken over any one.

Yes i agree that the Saudis are up to the necks in Iraq as well and if both sides would piss off perhaps Iraq might have a chance.

I think the killings in Bahrain and the show trials of the medical staff are abhorent.

We actually dont have any interests in the middle east other than selling you sheep.

If you want me to agree that Saudi, Iran and the Yanks are all screwing with the middle east then sure i agree.

maybe I said it in a way that you misunderstood me, I didn't mean New Zealand had taken over any one. NZ were in the multi-national force which helped the Allied forces to take over Iraq though but what I meant was if western countries and countries that their policies are in agreement with the USA and other western global powers do the same as Iran does, It's fine, but if Iran does that, Iran should be condemned and blamed for everything that is wrong in that country.
The point in my post was that It's all about one side demonizing the other side and it often leads to double-standards. I did not mean anything else.

 

[Hussein]

In politics and world affairs, talking about moral values is meaningless.

not really. moral having a part of the affairs.
if it was not then Iran would make business with Israel but its principle/moral is not recognizing Israel.
Another exemple: USA entered world war II against the nazism.
Another exemple: Palestine.
and so.

[I don't know whom you mean by 'he'. but I believe Iran wants to develop those gas/oil fields, the thing is that most companies do not like to invest in Iran since 2009 due to heavy sanctions we're under.

hmm i wonder why since 2009. 2009 > the good policy of Ahmadinejad?
anyway there are already foreign companies in Iran. i wonder about contract with Iraq , Syria
and why Gazprom and even discretely total still working there.

Do you keep checking the news to see how other countries hesitate to invest in Iran's energy sector?

indeed you still didn't get what i said ! so let me repeat a third time and this time open your mind.
if Iran was not spending his time to insult other countries and kill its citizens, yeah the situation would have been different.

How Emirates is taking sand from our side?

indeed the high amount and not ecological way to take the sand until far in the sea was discussed in many articles in persian newspapers. i wonder how you could miss it.

the Hizbullah issue is another matter. I believe that Iran shouldn't have called for the destruction of Israel after the revolution. Israel had nothing to do with us and we could've simply ignored them if Khomeini had been so eager not to have ties with them. We started messing with Israel, but at this moment, supporting Hizbullah and Hamas is important because both of them, and in particular Hezbollah, are our proxies in the region. I hope you understand but I doubt.

yeah i understand you are part of the sick guys who think of proxies and have no respect for the integrity of other states and respect of international normalized relations.
yea hlet's bomb and train terrorists! they are proxies. lol

retarded people like you who think everyone with a different opinion must be paid by the government. my name is Arian, I come from a non-religious family and I'm agnostic. You in the opposite, have a religious name Hussein, and probably come from a religious family because your parents have named you Hussein. People like you have no idea of what politics and international affairs are(That's obvious from your immature comments to be quite honest). You probably are among those people who supported the revolution backing 1979 but now you think it's a sign of wisdom to criticize them even if they're doing or saying something right. Your kind just wanna criticize others while they are unable to analyze the simplest stuff. lol regarding me, I'm an agnostic(with atheist sentiments) patriot. end of the story.

Hussein ... ah lol. so because i have a religious name .. what i am a mullah or what?
you say to be agnostic . so you are superior?
very interesting thought.
yes my family is conservative . i am not. i am muslim but it doesn't mean i am a low educated person.
yeah what a great idea you have on muslim people
i wonder why i got a PhD. i guess a mullah in Europe gave me

ah so funny to read this.
so your explanation about me is that i support the revolution but then i criticize even the good points.
so with people like you if we say something bad about your great Ahmadinejad it means we say bad things even when it is good.
hmmmm how long it took to think that way?

 

[Arian]

not really. moral having a part of the affairs.
if it was not then Iran would make business with Israel but its principle/moral is not recognizing Israel.
Another exemple: USA entered world war II against the nazism.
Another exemple: Palestine.
and so.

Iran's foreign policy against Israel is about ideology and propaganda more than moral values.
So you think the USA entered the WWII against the 'Japs' (as they called the Japanese at that time) and the Nazi Germany for the sake of moral values?

hmm i wonder why since 2009. 2009 > the good policy of Ahmadinejad?
anyway there are already foreign companies in Iran. i wonder about contract with Iraq , Syria
and why Gazprom and even discretely total still working there.

In fact Iran was screwed up in 2002 when the IAEA caught Iran doing experiments on reprocessing plutonium. That's where the story starts. Iran in 2003 under Khatami's presidency was forced to halt its uranium enrichment due to that. I say 2009 because the 4th round of UNSC resolutions and also the US bill to sanction Iran's energy sector were finally passed at that year.
Gazprom is limiting its activities inside Iran, so is Lukoil (another giant Russian company). Chinese firms are more active than before though and France's Total has almost pulled out of Iran.

indeed you still didn't get what i said ! so let me repeat a third time and this time open your mind.
if Iran was not spending his time to insult other countries and kill its citizens, yeah the situation would have been different.

I don't understand how Iran is 'insulting' other countries. If you mean the USA, then the USA demonizes Iran as well. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

indeed the high amount and not ecological way to take the sand until far in the sea was discussed in many articles in persian newspapers. i wonder how you could miss it.

show me your newspapers please. I should read them first.

yeah i understand you are part of the sick guys who think of proxies and have no respect for the integrity of other states and respect of international normalized relations.
yea hlet's bomb and train terrorists! they are proxies. lol

Maybe I'm sick but then all people who want to understand politics are sick. Iran trains Hamas and Hezbollah, the USA and Israel supports MKE, Jundullah, PJAk and other terrorists. It's what politics is about. It's dirty, but that's the way it is.

Hussein ... ah lol. so because i have a religious name .. what i am a mullah or what?
you say to be agnostic . so you are superior?
very interesting thought.
yes my family is conservative . i am not. i am muslim but it doesn't mean i am a low educated person.
yeah what a great idea you have on muslim people
i wonder why i got a PhD. i guess a mullah in Europe gave me

Don't take me wrong. I have nothing against Muslims, Christians, Jews or other believers. In fact I partly support Muslims when I feel that they are mistreated or discriminated. but what I said was meant to tell you that how I could be a regime paid person(lol) when I don't even agree with their faiths?

ah so funny to read this.
so your explanation about me is that i support the revolution but then i criticize even the good points.
so with people like you if we say something bad about your great Ahmadinejad it means we say bad things even when it is good.
hmmmm how long it took to think that way?

My great Ahmadinejad? lol.
Usually as Iran's history has shown us, religious people supported the revolution backing 1970's. A group of them are now the critics of the regime and a group of them are gullible Iranians who think Iran has become like the lowest ranked African nations. What I'm saying is if someone is saying something right, I'll support them about that particular thing. It doesn't necessarily mean I'm a fan of that person or I'm paid to support him/her.

 

[Abii]

Iran has some good stance but it need to tackle it with smart acts not only smart words. Ahmedinejad should be devising to milk scientific research from USA not be sitting isolated from the world as an embargoed nation.

embargoed?
look up the definition for that word. Iran is sanctioned and the sanctions only relate to nuclear materials and arms, offensive ones at that. The US has an embargoe on Iran that only stops American companies from doing business with Iran, woopdedooo. It's a good thing actually. We went from not being able to handle an airport control tower to a full on industrialized country in 30 years.

 

[Abii]

Which stance, the stance of taking over Lebanon by proxy with Hezbollah or perhaps the stance of backing bashar while he machineguns his own people? Or is it the stance of backing militia's in Iraq and Afghanistan or just the piss every one off stance?

you do realize that every power in this world, US being the most obvious example, does exactly the same things right?
There is NOTHING wrong with supporting Assad. There is nothing wrong with supporting Hezbollah and there is nothing wrong with taking over Iraq. All these countries are secterian tribal societies. One power will ALWAYS kill and opress the other (none of the aforementioned nations were united countries before the fall of the Ottoman Empire. They were practically carved up on a map by the Brits).

Anyway, your whole "piss every one off" is hillarious. Last time I checked, Iran had the full backing of the Non Aligned Nations (they account for the vast majority of the nations on this planet).

why are people so stupid?

 

[Abii]

why ? the current image of pakistan is not taking a beating enough- that you would wish the international world's class clown to be the face of pakistan?

lol, the only clowns are you guys bro. This is your reality:
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[Chinese-Dragon]

Why should Iran retreat from anything?

What is America going to do, threaten them yet again?

We've seen the weight of such threats already, when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008, or when North Korea (repeatedly) blasts South Korea.

America should realize that it is them who are pushing Iran towards nuclear weapons. Just check a map, and you will see America occupying the neighbourhood, in both Iraq and in Afghanistan.