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Iran warns Israel of 'unimaginable losses' if Syria attacked

melb4aust said:
He is just giving his views,
He would certainly love to learn from you guyz if you could eleborate more things along with few facts or events in the past.

Atleast give him a chance for free speech:read:

I wasnt taking away his freedom of free speach but ratrher asking his friends to help him out.
 
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Sid said:
Iraq is different than Kashmir and bigger in size, more insurgents plus Al-Qaeda. The Indian 500K infantry in Kashmir is not all army units; a lot of the units are para-military. Besides India has larger army than the US if you want to compare numbers.

The US is already involved in Afghanitan as well not just Iraq and has so many soldiers stationed in countries like Japan. Currently, US army and national guard are struggling to meet the quota of new recruits as less and less people join.

Coming to Iran, you are right that Israeli F-15s and F-16s can get to Iran easily but mind you, Iran is not Syria. They actually have quite capable SAMs in their inventory and the Israelis would think twice about it as it will not be a walk-over like the raid on Iraq's Osirik nuclear power plant.

Para military is also armed.They are not the army but still is armed.

And yes u r right with respect to recruitment i read recently that they have brought down the criteria for recruitment/

Iran i think is only as capable as Iraq was pre-US led invasion.I dont think they have any credible SAM systems,do u have info?
 
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Bull said:
My dear friends Neo and Asim,

Please for heavens sake put some sanity into this guys head.
Everyone's entitled to their opinions.

I cannot underscore it enough that how much the desire there is right now in the 2 Muslim countries I know about "to do something about it". What I don't agree with is that they usual vouch for destruction of Israel rather than securing a free Palestine state, end of Israeli aggressions.

I think Pakistan should send strong messages to both sides that it wants the fighting to stop. This should be communicated in no lesser terms to mainly Israel, but shouldn't exclude Hezbollah either.

There is a lot of pressure "to do something". I really hope the Israelis don't push the fight on that other Arab nations would get involved too. Then if they ask us, we'd have no choice but to commit. And then we're looking at a very bloody war.

Pakistan would ideally not want two of its future allies get into violent conflict with each other. But its high time we got involved diplomatically at least. Can't prevent a war, with our fingers on our lips.

Coming back to Iran, don't they have cruise missiles? How come cruise missiles haven't come into play on the Israeli attack? Is it only a land to sea missile or can be used land to land?
 
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Asim Aquil said:
Everyone's entitled to their opinions.

I cannot underscore it enough that how much the desire there is right now in the 2 Muslim countries I know about "to do something about it". What I don't agree with is that they usual vouch for destruction of Israel rather than securing a free Palestine state, end of Israeli aggressions.

I think Pakistan should send strong messages to both sides that it wants the fighting to stop. This should be communicated in no lesser terms to mainly Israel, but shouldn't exclude Hezbollah either.
There is a lot of pressure "to do something". I really hope the Israelis don't push the fight on that other Arab nations would get involved too. Then if they ask us, we'd have no choice but to commit. And then we're looking at a very bloody war.
Pakistan would ideally not want two of its future allies get into violent
conflict with each other. But its high time we got involved diplomatically at least. Can't prevent a war, with our fingers on our lips.
Coming back to Iran, don't they have cruise missiles? How come cruise missiles haven't come into play on the Israeli attack? Is it only a and to sea missile or can be used land to land?

When Pakistan Became a nuclear Power that was for India, we as a nation have no power to pressure israel to stop what they are doing , we have enough problems on our own front:read: , second why should we say something when the arabs are sitting on there asses doing noting why are they all not comming togather against one small country just because it is a muslim nation pakistan should butt in , I think MiddelEast has more muslims than we have in pakistan , they are all quite I have not heard anything from egypt, UAE, Saudis, Qatar, and many more , Africa has a lot of muslims they dont say any thing.
Fine we have a lot of people how are muslims and non muslim who are worried about this situation all over the world. and I am sure as it is said in the good book GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS all will be well soon.
 
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Muradk said:
When Pakistan Became a nuclear Power that was for India, we as a nation have no power to pressure israel to stop what they are doing , we have enough problems on our own front:read: , second why should we say something when the arabs are sitting on there asses doing noting why are they all not comming togather against one small country just because it is a muslim nation pakistan should butt in , I think MiddelEast has more muslims than we have in pakistan , they are all quite I have not heard anything from egypt, UAE, Saudis, Qatar, and many more , Africa has a lot of muslims they dont say any thing.
Fine we have a lot of people how are muslims and non muslim who are worried about this situation all over the world. and I am sure as it is said in the good book GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS all will be well soon.

You are absolutely right when u say we cannot do anything to influence Israel. But my dear we can criticise the open act of terrorism. Thats what we are doing and just to remind thats a form of Jihad (but the weakest).
 
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Asim Aquil said:
That would be a mistake of catastrophic magnitudes! As it is, they might just convert the Hezbollah actions as justification to attack Iran, let alone give them more reason to attack by using the Iranian army to attack. Iran better be on HIGH alert.

You were right Asim (our media man :biggrin: )

Israel claims Iran link to crisis

Hezbollah's capture of two Israeli soldiers last week was timed to divert attention from Tehran's nuclear programme, the Israeli PM has claimed.
Ehud Olmert said that the cross-border raid in which the two soldiers were taken and eight others killed was co-ordinated with Tehran.

US President George W Bush meanwhile accused Syria of trying to use the crisis to get back into Lebanon.

About 30 people died in a seventh day of conflict, most of them in Lebanon.

Lebanese PM Fouad Siniora said Israel was "opening the gates of hell and madness" on his country.

In a BBC interview, he urged Hezbollah to release the two Israeli soldiers but said Israel's response to the crisis had been disproportionate.

As the unrest continues, the UN has announced that its non-essential staff are to join the tens of thousands of foreigners fleeing the crisis.

Israel launched its assault and blockade last Wednesday after the two soldiers were captured.

About 230 Lebanese people have been killed since then - the vast majority of them civilians, but including about 30 soldiers. The number of Hezbollah fighters killed is not known.

Twenty-five Israelis have died - 13 civilians and 12 members of the military.

Israel has frequently blamed Syria and Iran for arming and backing Hezbollah, but Mr Olmert's comments were the first explicit claim of Tehran's direct involvement in the capture of the soldiers, correspondents say.

Mr Olmert said the timing of the incident was not an accident, and the international community at the G8 summit in Russia had fallen for it - discussing Lebanon rather than Iran's nuclear programme.

His comments came at a meeting of Israeli ambassadors.

Earlier, Israel's foreign minister met a UN team trying to negotiate a ceasefire, but said the soldiers' release and the deployment of the Lebanese army in the south would have to precede any ceasefire.

Thousands more foreigners have continued to flee Lebanon as the crisis deepens.

A British warship docked in Beirut at the start of a mission to transport up to 12,000 Britons and a further 10,000 people with dual British-Lebanese nationality to Cyprus.

The US, Canada and other governments were also organising evacuations by land, air or sea.

In other developments:


UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said he expected European nations to contribute troops to a proposed stabilisation force to end the fighting

The UN has warned of a humanitarian disaster as Lebanese flee their homes, with air strikes on roads and bridges hampering efforts to help them

Lebanon's pro-Syrian President Emile Lahoud has vowed to stand by Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

Shlomo Goldwasser, the father of one of the missing Israeli soldiers, said he hoped all means - legal or illegal - would be used to get his son Ehud back
As Israel launched fresh cross-border attacks on Tuesday, six bodies were pulled from the rubble of a home in the Lebanese border village of Aitaroun, and another family was killed in the coastal city of Tyre.

Eleven Lebanese soldiers were killed at a barracks east of Beirut.

The Lebanese army has been ordered not to respond to the Israeli attacks. But Lebanese soldiers have now died in several strikes, including one on the port of Abdeh on Monday in which nine died.

In Tuesday's attacks by Hezbollah, an Israeli was killed in Nahariya.

Rockets also hit the northern city of Haifa, Safed, Acre, Kiryat Shemona, and Gush Halav region near Safed, Israeli officials told AP news agency.

Israeli military officials say more than 700 Hezbollah rockets have now landed in Israel since the crisis began.
 
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Eleven Lebanese soldiers were killed at a barracks east of Beirut.

The Lebanese army has been ordered not to respond to the Israeli attacks. But Lebanese soldiers have now died in several strikes, including one on the port of Abdeh on Monday in which nine died.

In Tuesday's attacks by Hezbollah, an Israeli was killed in Nahariya.

Lebanese are cowards, seriously hezbollah has more ballz than these Lebanese soldiers who are doing nothing, even their men got killed; no wonder, its their (leb gov) own fault.
 
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Muradk said:
When Pakistan Became a nuclear Power that was for India, we as a nation have no power to pressure israel to stop what they are doing , we have enough problems on our own front:read: , second why should we say something when the arabs are sitting on there asses doing noting why are they all not comming togather against one small country just because it is a muslim nation pakistan should butt in , I think MiddelEast has more muslims than we have in pakistan , they are all quite I have not heard anything from egypt, UAE, Saudis, Qatar, and many more , Africa has a lot of muslims they dont say any thing.
Fine we have a lot of people how are muslims and non muslim who are worried about this situation all over the world. and I am sure as it is said in the good book GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS all will be well soon.

Brother, If Arabs help Lebonan then it will be against the wishes of USA, uncle sam wouldnt waste a minute to press the "regime" change button.

It that happens then how will these prince finance their "lavish" lifestyles?
 
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Asim s got a point that the muslim countries arnt interested in creating a palestinean state,but are hell bound in destroying israel.ANd thats the where the whole issue.How do you expect Israel to stand up and be ready for self destruction so that a palestinean state be created.Te only solution is a 2 state existance.

I think none of the middle eastern regime including Saudi , Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman or UAE will ahve the guts to join Iran or Syria.
 
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