Iran to supply Russia with “hundreds” of Drones

[Shawnee]

Your outdated source from 2015 showed your level
İran and metallurgy . so funny

You should check the TB2 debris from Ukraine war. You are making claims that Cabatli cannot fix later.

Being quite is occasionally good.

 

[Hack-Hook]

İranian Drones never can compare with Turkish AKINCI , not even close

for that we have Gaza , and our drone can fire ya-ali cruise missile , just say if it fired from ground it have 700km of range , wonder what will be the range if fired from a drone.

now a question , what you have that comparable to Shahed-171 or Shahed-191 or what you have comparable to Shahed-136
or what you have comparable to this

that can be released from another drone , have a range of 400km and can made a network by 10 other drone and its AI decide how to attack enemy , and from which route go there and which target attack.

Turkish Drones are 95-100% indigenous

don't make jokes

his is why Turkish products despite being affordable are still on the same level as Western equipments quality-wise.

5m$ for a drone like TB2 is not affordable in our book

İran doesnt have single crystal blade and blisk-spool manufacturing technologies for turbofan-turboshaft Engines. even China could not solve problems to transit from Soviet technology to western technology in Turbofan Engines

well sorry to inform you that you are wrong . on that , we produce single crystal blade turbo prop engine heard about Jahesh - 700 and Tolue-14 Do you knew the technology in Toloue-14 is only available to Iran and GE

Turbofan - Turbofan Configurations - Aft-fan Turbofan | Technology Trends

 

[ESAx]

Iran’s defense industry places heavy emphasis on the development and creation of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for surveillance and lethal operations. Through a combination of indigenous research, violations of international arms embargoes, and the reverse-engineering of foreign UAVs that Iran has been able to acquire, Iran’s defense industry has developed a wide array of drones for military use. It is speculated that Iran now fields a dozen different UAV models, with multiple variants of each model also existing.

I very well know about İran

Turkiye has far superior technology and Drones from Tactical to HALE from Kamikaze to unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI Drones armed with most modern missiles and smart munitions ( 12-15-30-70-150-250 km ) .to carry even Cruise Missiles . İran not even close

even AKIINCI strategic UCAV to carry AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN-BOZDOGAN air to air Missiles . İran not even close

KARGU and ALPAGU Kamikaze Drones for swarm attack
KARGI anti-radiation Drone with RF seeker , Datalink , SATCOM ( range of 1.000 km )
ŞİMŞEK turbojet engined Kamikaze Drone with range of 200 km

300 km GOKSUNGUR supersonic decoy Drone can be programmed in advance and is launched to enemy air defense positions before an air attack, deceiving the enemy air defense systems, reducing the casualties of friendly aircraft and allowing them to operate in survivability as like American MALD and İsraeli TALD-ITALD

and of course Turkish KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet to make first flight in 2023
AESA radar and next-generation avionics, sensor fusion ,
Internal weapon stations for Stealth flight capability
Aggressive maneuverability with delta canard and vertical stabilizers
Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence

 

[Hack-Hook]

TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI Drones armed with most modern missiles and smart munitions ( 12-15-30-70-150-250 km ) .to carry even Cruise Missiles . İran not even close

see that red cruise missile , has 700km range if fired from ground , guess what will be the range of fired from the drone. and you talk of 250km

 

[ESAx]

for that we have Gaza , and our drone can fire ya-ali cruise missile , just say if it fired from ground it have 700km of range , wonder what will be the range if fired from a drone.

now a question , what you have that comparable to Shahed-171 or Shahed-191 or what you have comparable to Shahed-136

Turkish AKINCI to carry 1600 kg payload including 275 km SOM Cruise Missile

What about İranian UCAVs ?


8 x MAM-L
2 x MAM-T
1 x Teber-82
1 x KGK-SİHA-82
1 x SOM

AKINCI has the best fire power in the world . İran not even close

12 km MIZRAK anti-tank missile
15 km MAM-L laser guided bomb
30 km MAM-T laser guided bomb
40 km KUZGUN-KY missile with IIR seeker
150 km CAKIR cruise missile with IIR seeker
150 km TRLG-230 laser guided supersonic missile
250 km KUZGUN-TJ missile with IIR seeker
275 km SOM cruise missile with IIR seeker

even to carry KGK , HGK , TEBER , NEB guided Bombs
and GOKDOGAN - BOZDOGAN air to air missile



also its new KARGI anti radiation Drone with range of 1.000 km

Critical subsystems such as navigation and automatic flight control system , software , warhead , RF Seeker, Engine, Booster, Link System, Propeller and Fuel Tank were developed completely by Turkiye

6+ hours of operation capability
home-of-jam capability
SATCOM communication
Datalink
SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses)
DEAD (Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses)

 

[dBSPL]

First of all, I would personally welcome such a potential sale of Iran. I have no problem with the Iranian people and I maintain strong goodwill. Also, I am in favor of deepening the cooperation between our countries.

What I can't understand is why every time our Iranian friends talk about UAVs they bring the subject up to TB-2.

The TB-2 is currently the cheapest drone you can buy in the tactical class in the Turkish defense industry. If you organize a social campaign by gathering a few thousand people, maybe Baykar can give it to you without even getting paid. System is probably one-third the cost of ANKA, even cheaper than Lentatek tactical systems.

I don't know if any of you have worked in an international industrial field, but I really laugh when I see some of the comments posted here. Was China, the world's industrial giant, is incapable of making a Rotax equivalent piston engine; that sold dozens drone with this equipment? Of course no. They do much better. There is a concept called product use on the shelf. The system is one of many systems used to reduce your sales costs and thus, the process of creating a product. While your alternative system optimization continues, it not only allows you to put the system on the field as soon as possible, but also allows you to sell at competitive costs.

In more closed economies, there are ways to reduce project risk, such as indirect imports of dual-use products, sorting and rectifying useful systems from black-market and scrap piles.

Is everything 100% national in Iranian systems? No, of course. Even when you look from the outside without opening the hood, it can be seen that even some of very, very simple components are chosen from dual-use products. There's no need for such a piss contest. The important thing is that these systems serve the Iranian security forces in line with the project purposes, everything else is a detail. It's pointless to even discuss about reverse engineering or anything like that. If you block a country from accessing some systems, it will necessarily go the other way.

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To give an example from my own country, the Canadian company stopped the import of the EO system due to the Karabakh war. Baykar preferred this EO because it is about 15Kg lighter than Aselsan CATS and because it is a product on the shelf. As a result, in the face of this obstacle, the optimization studies of the ASELSAN EO/IR were accelerated and production continued with the Aselsan product without any interruption in the TB-2 production line at that time. For the Turkish company, the cost probably increased by 5%, but on the other hand, the Canadian company was on the verge of bankruptcy. In short, these countries have come a long way in terms of systems engineering, and embargoes and obstructions on the basis of subsystems cannot be long-term barriers.

On the contrary, Baykar Tech's order book is full for the next 3 years (TB-2, TB-3, AKINCI). For this reason, another assembly line will be opened in Ukraine and negotiations are continuing for the establishment of an assembly line in a third country. In the drone market, which is one of the many areas, the production intensity is now moving to the east. If Western aviation companies can't be a part of it, hundreds of them will have to go bankrupt.

 

[Hack-Hook]

even AKIINCI strategic UCAV to carry AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN-BOZDOGAN air to air Missiles . İran not even close

you mean like this Fater missile being fired from Karrar UCAV

 

[ESAx]

see that red cruise missile , has 700km range if fired from ground , guess what will be the range of fired from the drone. and you talk of 250km

not even 70 km
İranian Drones can not carry heavy Cruise Missiles under wings

on the other hand Turkish AKINCI carry even 840 kg Bomb

 

[Ich]

I like it if (maybe) Turks try to impress...

 

[TheImmortal]

Turkish AKINCI to carry 1600 kg payload including 275 km SOM Cruise Missile

8 x MAM-L
2 x MAM-T
1 x Teber-82
1 x KGK-SİHA-82
1 x SOM
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That bird with such a payload would have a TERRIBLE RCS. Any country with a half decent air defense system could knock it out of the sky since it would be a blimp on radar with all those bombs strapped to it.

Good bird if your hunting Taliban fighters I guess.

You seem like a child you think firepower is everything. Russia has Blackjack bombers and US has B-1, B-2, and B-52 bombers. If Bombers won wars then Ukraine war would have been over already and US would be victorious in Afghanistan.

And if TB-2 cost ~5M then I can only imagine what it’s bigger brother cost. Not economical at all in contested airspace.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Iran should order SU-35’s, SU34’s, SU-57’s S-400, S-500 and Armata Tanks. Now is a good timing Russia wont care about any backlash and probably will supply everything.

Well not really.
Some above items are not for sale and under no circumstances Russia sells those to even it's closest allies.Because russia wants to maintain its superiority. Even the S-400 Russia sells it's a downgraded export version. The S-400 Russia use is more potent than the export version.
Iran is in no position to dictate Russia arms sales. Russia is going to win in Ukraine one way or another. With or without Irani drones doesn't matter.

 

[Hack-Hook]

300 km GOKSUNGUR supersonic decoy Drone can be programmed in advance and is launched to enemy air defense positions before an air attack, deceiving the enemy air defense systems, reducing the casualties of friendly aircraft and allowing them to operate in survivability as like American MALD and İsraeli TALD-ITALD

by the way are you MMM, because you begin to list the project you plan to introduce in future

What about İranian UCAVs ?


8 x MAM-L
2 x MAM-T
1 x Teber-82
1 x KGK-SİHA-82
1 x SOM

AKINCI has the best fire power in the world . İran not even close

12 km MIZRAK anti-tank missile
15 km MAM-L laser guided bomb
30 km MAM-T laser guided bomb
40 km KUZGUN-KY missile with IIR seeker
150 km CAKIR cruise missile with IIR seeker
150 km TRLG-230 laser guided supersonic missile
250 km KUZGUN-TJ missile with IIR seeker
275 km SOM cruise missile with IIR seeker

even to carry KGK , HGK , TEBER , NEB guided Bombs
and GOKDOGAN - BOZDOGAN air to air missile

Shahed 149 Gaza - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

as I said or range is at least 700km, sorry to burst your bubble

also its new KARGI anti radiation Drone with range of 1.000 km

Critical subsystems such as navigation and automatic flight control system , software , warhead , RF Seeker, Engine, Booster, Link System, Propeller and Fuel Tank were developed completely by Turkiye

6+ hours of operation capability
home-of-jam capability
SATCOM communication
Datalink
SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses)
DEAD (Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses)

what about it , we exported same type of drone from ages ago
you think what Yemen use in attack against KSA oil facilities ? ours is battle proven yours , well it remain to be seen how effective it is!? just look at how precise our drone is , all of them hit target from same direction , with same angle and to the same part of the targets

 

[kingQamaR]

You missed his point...it was passing through multi layer AD manned by Americans that was the feast..not hitting the target..

Someone in the Saudi government and military is probably asking the same questions.

And, no, the US military is not responsible for the Saudi air defense.

 

[Hack-Hook]

not even 70 km
İranian Drones can not carry heavy Cruise Missiles under wings

on the other hand Turkish AKINCI carry even 840 kg Bomb
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I say the range of the cruise missile is 700km , you talk about 70km . by the way at what altitude and what range that 840kg bomb can be carried and at what speed , something is certain that bomb kill any low rcs feature Akinci have wonder for who you want that 840kg bomb ? some rag-tag terrorist in mountain ?

 

[ESAx]

That bird with such a payload would have a TERRIBLE RCS. Any country with a half decent air defense system could knock it out of the sky.

AKINCI to carry AESA Radar and can fire 150-250 km Missiles such as TRLG-230 , CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ and SOM to hunt Air Defense Systems like PANTSIR , BUK , TOR , AKASH , MICA-VL , SAMP-T , PATRIOT , S300

Good bird if your hunting Taliban fighters I guess.

Good bird to hunt even enemy Warships

You seem like a child you think firepower is everything. Russia has Blackjack bombers and US has B-1, B-2, and B-52 bombers. If Bombers won wars then Ukraine war would have been over already.

You seems like real child who compare Drone with Strategic Bombers