Iran Ranks 6th in Nanotechnology Worldwide, Exceeding Japan

[Echo_419]

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It was joke, soon the Pakistanis are going to call you a Indian & then I will say you blew up your cover dude

 

[xenon54 out]

Well publishing articles and actually having the technology are two different things, Japan leaves many countries back when it comes to using this technology and producing stuff.

Nevertheless its a step into the right direction, now its time to turn theory into practice.

 

[scythian500]

please don't make jokes. submitting 20 articles of 3rd class material don't make you good.
except turkey and some pakistanis, none of the muslim countries have produced large number of quality papers. i had gone through some jokes in the past.

Papers are quality when they are published in such journals.. There are tens of thousands of other papers got published inside Iran in Persian and most of them are not counted... Btw, in number of scientific papers, even quantity matters.. it shows scientific activity... this means a country with 40K papers per year is much more advanced in science than the one with only couple of thousands... Plus, scientific impacts does not come over night.. The papers needs to be cited... Iran is relatively a new player in world stage.. Its number of citations grows day over day, the more other advanced nations see quality papers the more their citations will increase...

Btw, in Nanotechnology that is the subject here, Iran is among the top both quantity and quality... Did you know Iran is a member of the board that sets international standards for Nanotech? This means Iran is a pioneer in this field...

Regarding Pakistan and Turkey... Everybody in Muslim world will be happy if they manage to wake up for progress... An educated Muslim nation is always better for both Muslim world and the whole humanity... So, we will be happy to see Pakistani and Turk scientific wings soar as well...

Well publishing articles and actually having the technology are two different things, Japan leaves many countries back when it comes to using this technology and producing stuff.

Nevertheless its a step into the right direction, now its time to turn theory into practice.

and why do you think Iran is not putting its Nano scientific knowledge into practice? If you were living in Iran you would never say what you said... At least follow what is posted in Made in Iran thread... It is a droplet of the sea of every day scientific strides Iran does in PRACTICE!

There are numerous nano tech related companies in Iran already... They work in a wide range... from pure research.. to designing/ producing nanotech related machinery for the NANO industry itself... to high-tech nano-based medicine factories... to companies which produce nanotech products... It is already a serious industry kardas...

Iranian Nano industry in last 4 years only has increased 20 times in size and income..

%35 of all Iranian nano output has been exported last year and the rest had customers inside Iran.

 

[raptor22]

Well publishing articles and actually having the technology are two different things, Japan leaves many countries back when it comes to using this technology and producing stuff.

Nevertheless its a step into the right direction, now its time to turn theory into practice.

You have no idea or clue on what you are talking , Iran has exported nano-technological products to the south Korea, Russia and China .. SK doesn't need our theory and they are ahead of us in this field and we've been able to export our products there ...
If you knew the number of projects, student, faculties , national tests and exhibition regarding this science . the number of companies that are investing every year in this field you wouldn't say it's time to turn theory into practice.

It's list of countries that imported from Iran last year :

Turkey, Germany, Spain , Oman, Bahrain , Australia , England, Russia , Saudi kingdom , Azrabejan, The UAE, Tajikestan , Afghanistan , Italy , Iraq ....

 

[Stryker1982]

According to Web of Science courtesy of Thomson Reuters, we find that Iran or any other Middle Eastern, Hindou, African or other low IQ countries are nowhere in the lead in nanotechnology or nanoscience highly cited research materials publication.

Actually only China is leading the world in nanoscience and nanotechnology.

Courtesy of Thomson Reuters you will need login ID and password to access these material

For period 2006-2016, countries

For period 2006-2016, institutes

For period 2011-2016, countries

For period 2011-2016, institutes

And before you middle easterners of low IQ irrespective if you are Iranian Turkish Arabian or Jewish, none of you are in the lead, and do not cry about your small population. Singapour has a very small population about the same as Kuwait or Arab Emirates yet it outperforms the entire world, per capita, and ranks top 4 for period 2011 to 2016, and top 5 for period 2006-2016, against all countries with multiple times bigger populations.

High IQ helps.

Iran is ahead of many European countries in nanotechnology, that doesn't mean many Europeans are low IQ...

 

[Nilgiri]

Before that racist guy cherry picking sources (who's post got deleted) opens his mouth again, it is wise to check these out:

http://statnano.com/news/48147

http://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?category=2509&year=2015

 

[pts_m_h_2016]

Iran is ahead of many European countries in nanotechnology, that doesn't mean many Europeans are low IQ...

I expect this form of false argumentation from low IQ people. You are not a European descendant person, probably another Iranian or some Middle Easterner.

For low IQ people, everything needs to be explained in simplest terms and then also they fail to grasp the notion.

Iran is ahead of not a single Western European country, maybe you consider poor backward illiterate regions like Turquie as European but EU membership will never be granted to Turks, rest assured of that.

First. More than number of papers, what counts is citations.

But then, some people try to cheat their way through to the top by citing their own works too frequently. That is why we should discount self citations only to include nonself citations. If some author other than yourself cites your work, then it may be worth something. Another general rule, within same period and same discipline, the more nonself citations, the higher quality your work is generally considered to be.

Many people count citations per paper. But this too is problematic, because of self citations as mentioned before, but also because some very large but regressive countries can publish just one or two or handful of papers with very high citations. Their citations per paper ratio would be stupendous.

Better measure is to count nonself citations, that means we exclude ALL self citations for all papers from all years, for all disciplines, and divide it by the population, in millions. Nonself citations per million.

Let's say, Switzerland gets 83000 nonself citations in a year and India gets 125000 nonself citations in a year, but Swiss population remains at only 8,3 million and yet India's population is more than 1,2 billion!

Now, go to scimagojr.com, take the results of "Materials Science", for each of the years from 2010 to 2015, all 6 years, and include the populations of each countries in a spreadsheet column. You get the following results, from 2010 to 2015.


Not a surprise at all seeing European and Oriental countries always at the top. It's just Nature's law at work. No low IQ African, Middle Eastern, Hindou societies here. Probably world's most advanced and developed Hindou country is Mauritius
it's because of the Franco mauritians.

2010

2011

2012

2013

2014

2015

You can complete same task for other disciplines, Engineering, Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics, Informatics and Computing, Materials Sciences of which one subdiscipline is Nanotechnology. Do not count Biosciences in the same bracket, they always lead to much higher citations and much higher international collaboration. Most biosciences studies are mere statistical trickery at work.

Before that racist guy cherry picking sources (who's post got deleted) opens his mouth again, it is wise to check these out:

http://statnano.com/news/48147

http://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?category=2509&year=2015

As explained already.

This is always, always the case with low IQ populations. Everything needs to be dumbed down and even then you peoples will fail to understand.

No Middle Easterners arabs or jews, turks or Iranians or whoever, Hindous or Africans or Pygmies or Bantous, or whoever, leads the world except in fake stats and invented or dubious category.

In every aspect of intellectually rigorous objective transparent achievement, Europeans and Orientals lead the world, always, consistently, across the board.

As I keep saying, high IQ helps.

 

[Nilgiri]

@waz @WAJsal @Oscar @Slav Defence

Can we deal with this guy calling people low IQ?

 

[SOHEIL]

I expect this form of false argumentation from low IQ people. You are not a European descendant person, probably another Iranian or some Middle Easterner.

For low IQ people, everything needs to be explained in simplest terms and then also they fail to grasp the notion.

Iran is ahead of not a single Western European country, maybe you consider poor backward illiterate regions like Turquie as European but EU membership will never be granted to Turks, rest assured of that.

First. More than number of papers, what counts is citations.

But then, some people try to cheat their way through to the top by citing their own works too frequently. That is why we should discount self citations only to include nonself citations. If some author other than yourself cites your work, then it may be worth something. Another general rule, within same period and same discipline, the more nonself citations, the higher quality your work is generally considered to be.

Many people count citations per paper. But this too is problematic, because of self citations as mentioned before, but also because some very large but regressive countries can publish just one or two or handful of papers with very high citations. Their citations per paper ratio would be stupendous.

Better measure is to count nonself citations, that means we exclude ALL self citations for all papers from all years, for all disciplines, and divide it by the population, in millions. Nonself citations per million.

Let's say, Switzerland gets 83000 nonself citations in a year and India gets 125000 nonself citations in a year, but Swiss population remains at only 8,3 million and yet India's population is more than 1,2 billion!

Now, go to scimagojr.com, take the results of "Materials Science", for each of the years from 2010 to 2015, all 6 years, and include the populations of each countries in a spreadsheet column. You get the following results, from 2010 to 2015.


Not a surprise at all seeing European and Oriental countries always at the top. It's just Nature's law at work. No low IQ African, Middle Eastern, Hindou societies here. Probably world's most advanced and developed Hindou country is Mauritius
it's because of the Franco mauritians.

2010

2011

2012

2013

2014

2015

You can complete same task for other disciplines, Engineering, Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics, Informatics and Computing, Materials Sciences of which one subdiscipline is Nanotechnology. Do not count Biosciences in the same bracket, they always lead to much higher citations and much higher international collaboration. Most biosciences studies are mere statistical trickery at work.




As explained already.

This is always, always the case with low IQ populations. Everything needs to be dumbed down and even then you peoples will fail to understand.

No Middle Easterners arabs or jews, turks or Iranians or whoever, Hindous or Africans or Pygmies or Bantous, or whoever, leads the world except in fake stats and invented or dubious category.

In every aspect of intellectually rigorous objective transparent achievement, Europeans and Orientals lead the world, always, consistently, across the board.

As I keep saying, high IQ helps.

 

[haviZsultan]

Good work Iran. Iran research and development spending is also one of the highest in the muslim world.

 

[Arminkh]

Before that racist guy cherry picking sources (who's post got deleted) opens his mouth again, it is wise to check these out:

http://statnano.com/news/48147

http://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?category=2509&year=2015

You see, you need to give it to him. It's tough to see your country is declining in world rankings. France used to be the third richest country in the world back in 1960 then it has kept falling surpassed by China, Japan and Germany to 6th in 2014. These are all without considering the PPP :

http://en.classora.com/reports/t243...richest-countries-by-gdp?edition=2014&fields=

If you consider the PPP which is the correct way of comparing economies, It is the 10th economy behind India, Russia and even Indonesia.

French used to be the international language just before WWI now, it is replaced by English, soon to be replaced by Mandarin.

They started from the era of Louie the 14th, when they were the undisputed power in Europe, controlling all the known colonized area in North America (Current Canada and US combined) to losing all of that to being defeated during Napoleon era in less than a century. They were the big loser of WWII allowing Germans to occupy their country only to be helped back to their feet by US.

Now it is at a point that it needs the backing of EU to actually remain relevant in the world.

Let him call us low IQ or whatever he likes, the historical trend says a different story.

 

[Nilgiri]

You see, you need to give it to him. It's tough to see your country is declining in world rankings. France used to be the third richest country in the world back in 1960 then it has kept falling surpassed by China, Japan and Germany to 6th in 2014. These are all without considering the PPP :

http://en.classora.com/reports/t243...richest-countries-by-gdp?edition=2014&fields=

If you consider the PPP which is the correct way of comparing economies, It is the 10th economy behind India, Russia and even Indonesia.

French used to be the international language just before WWI now, it is replaced by English, soon to be replaced by Mandarin.

They started from the era of Louie the 14th, when they were the undisputed power in Europe, controlling all the known colonized area in North America (Current Canada and US combined) to losing all of that to being defeated during Napoleon era in less than a century. They were the big loser of WWII allowing Germans to occupy their country only to be helped back to their feet by US.

Now it is at a point that it needs the backing of EU to actually remain relevant in the world.

Let him call us low IQ or whatever he likes, the historical trend says a different story.

I dont equate that guy with France. There are good, very respectable French members in this forum, I get along with most French people in real life (my gf is half french), I speak French a lot. I enjoy its literature and its culture mightily.

France even if it declines in the world rankings of aggregates (given its population total) is a well developed country with high standard of living. Thats why I am always a proponent of cooperation of India with France. I just hope for France that it puts fiscal prudence over sheer welfare state sooner than later (strike a better balance).

So this fellow is just a silly racist guy, I don't want to try to understand his thought process, its a waste of time. Yes I have come across bad apples like him in real life....but that is worldwide phenomenon, not just limited to France.

@Vergennes @Taygibay

 

[Arminkh]

I dont equate that guy with France. There are good, very respectable French members in this forum, I get along with most French people in real life (my gf is half french), I speak French a lot. I enjoy its literature and its culture mightily.

France even if it declines in the world rankings of aggregates (given its population total) is a well developed country with high standard of living. Thats why I am always a proponent of cooperation of India with France. I just hope for France that it puts fiscal prudence over sheer welfare state sooner than later (strike a better balance).

So this fellow is just a silly racist guy, I don't want to try to understand his thought process, its a waste of time. Yes I have come across bad apples like him in real life....but that is worldwide phenomenon, not just limited to France.

@Vergennes @Taygibay

I'd like to avoid stereotyping as well but unfortunately he represents a big chunk of French population (why do you think ISIS is so successful in hiring people there?) Discrimination against other races living in France is at best paramount.

That's why sometimes they should be reminded about the facts. For example some of the bases of today's science and technology like Chemistry, Algebra, Algorithms, base 10 computation and .... were founded and named by my low IQ ancestors. One may wonder what would they do if they were not so low IQ!!

And I, by no means, mean French Canadians.

 

[Vergennes]

I dont equate that guy with France. There are good, very respectable French members in this forum, I get along with most French people in real life (my gf is half french), I speak French a lot. I enjoy its literature and its culture mightily.

France even if it declines in the world rankings of aggregates (given its population total) is a well developed country with high standard of living. Thats why I am always a proponent of cooperation of India with France. I just hope for France that it puts fiscal prudence over sheer welfare state sooner than later (strike a better balance).

So this fellow is just a silly racist guy, I don't want to try to understand his thought process, its a waste of time. Yes I have come across bad apples like him in real life....but that is worldwide phenomenon, not just limited to France.

@Vergennes @Taygibay

I respect this member,followed many of his posts,and learned things,maybe he should refrain yes from using some terms like "low IQ" to keep the debate cordial.

You see, you need to give it to him. It's tough to see your country is declining in world rankings. France used to be the third richest country in the world back in 1960 then it has kept falling surpassed by China, Japan and Germany to 6th in 2014. These are all without considering the PPP :

http://en.classora.com/reports/t243...richest-countries-by-gdp?edition=2014&fields=

If you consider the PPP which is the correct way of comparing economies, It is the 10th economy behind India, Russia and even Indonesia.

French used to be the international language just before WWI now, it is replaced by English, soon to be replaced by Mandarin.

They started from the era of Louie the 14th, when they were the undisputed power in Europe, controlling all the known colonized area in North America (Current Canada and US combined) to losing all of that to being defeated during Napoleon era in less than a century. They were the big loser of WWII allowing Germans to occupy their country only to be helped back to their feet by US.

Now it is at a point that it needs the backing of EU to actually remain relevant in the world.

Let him call us low IQ or whatever he likes, the historical trend says a different story.

Every countries/empires in this world had their time of glory and decline.
Of course France will decline as other powers will emerge but will still have its place in the world.
Despite unfavorable economic policies during this term,France still remains the 6th economic power. (Or 5th,'thanks' to Brexit)

That is laughable to say we are relevant because of the EU....

We are a P5 member,have the biggest EEZ in this world,the second biggest diplomatic network in the world,a cultural power,one of the most visited nation in the world,we possess nuclear weapons,an independent military industry.... one of the strongest army in this world,having capabilities some countries can only dream of....among the leaders in innovation.....

France is admirated through the world because of its history,its architecture,its gastronomy,it's culture,its intellect,its diversity,its science,technology,its industry,its welfare system,its public services,its health services,its quality of life,way of life and I could continue....

A country of 66 million souls...

@mike2000 is back

 

[Nilgiri]

Now, go to scimagojr.com, take the results of "Materials Science", for each of the years from 2010 to 2015, all 6 years, and include the populations of each countries in a spreadsheet column. You get the following results, from 2010 to 2015.

Here are the results for just 2015 (for material sciences):

http://scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?year=2015&category=2501

You seriously are going to compare per capita when developing countries like India and Iran are in transition from where they were before to where they are going to?

Are you going to call China low IQ too because they had bad rankings in 1996 as well?

http://scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?category=2501&year=1996

They were producing a total less than that of France in 1996 with population how many times more, they are low IQ? Suddenly got high IQ in just a cpl decades? India, Iran and other are not going through the same change and transition now?

Why dont you look at where Iran was ranked in material sciences in 1996? They were just barely over Bangladesh and Pakistan, and a country like Latvia. Now they are between Spain and Canada. They have a bit more than double the population of Canada for your notion of "per capita" argument.

It is not where you are in a moment of time, it is where you have come from and where you are clearly going. Don't be so butthurt about it.