Iran execution record -Shamefull

[gambit]

And there we have the rudimentary roots of all law. A countries legal code is an imperfect reflects of that countries moral values and a sense of what is right is often what keeps a country together as an entity.

But we do know that the list of 'capital' offenses, meaning of 'sins' that turned out to be 'crimes' that so offend us that the sense of justice overrode the deterrence desire, is not consistent. In the old days, the 'sin' of adultery was such a moral outrage. Now, even though some countries still has adultery as a 'crime', its prosecution is neglected and that contribute to the tolerance of adultery in those countries, at least as a distaste, anyway. But there are at least three 'sins' that became morally outrageous 'crimes' for all societies: murder, rape, and treason, no matter how tolerant they may became for other 'sins'.

 

[EjazR]

Actually the link from nationmaster is outadated. The lastest 2010 data is as follows

China-1000+
Iran-388
Iraq-120
Saudi Arabia-69
United States-52
Yemen-50


By the way the high number of executions in Arab countries and Iran are mainly political exections and would have no sanction in Islam as such. There is a reason why the most populous muslim countries in the world like Indonesia, Bangladesh, Turkey, are not even in the top 10 list.


The common factor seems to be that the more repressive politically a country is the more likely it is to be on the top10 list of executions. Particularly when it comes to political executions

Death penalty statistics from the US and around the world | News | guardian.co.uk

 

[gambit]

Actually the link from nationmaster is outadated. The lastest 2010 data is as follows

China-1000+
Iran-388
Iraq-120
Saudi Arabia-69
United States-52
Yemen-50


By the way the high number of executions in Arab countries and Iran are mainly political exections and would have no sanction in Islam as such. There is a reason why the most populous muslim countries in the world like Indonesia, Bangladesh, Turkey, are not even in the top 10 list.


The common factor seems to be that the more repressive politically a country is the more likely it is to be on the top10 list of executions. Particularly when it comes to political executions

Death penalty statistics from the US and around the world | News | guardian.co.uk

Then the provided link is misleading because the US does not have capital punishments for politically motivated reasons. Murder or rape are 'social' crimes, not politically motivated ones.

 

[Hussein]

for Iran most crimes is for something else:
criticizing the leader, uprising , drug trafic
about drug trafic for exemple in Iran it is nothing to do with Islamic rule. a non islamic rule could have the same execution rate. it depends if dictatorship or not. Iran is dictatorship.
most people hanged for drug deals didn't have any legal procedure: no advocate , and a court who condemns many people in veryfast way
i can give you the famous exemple of the dutch Iranian woman who was executed: she was in the streets against government they arrested her there and they say then she had some small quantity of drug (she never was addicted from all family point of view so seems to be fake)
normally we don't execute people for small quantity of drug but they did it!???? totally illegal procedure
but they want all of us be scared

 

[EjazR]

Then the provided link is misleading because the US does not have capital punishments for politically motivated reasons. Murder or rape are 'social' crimes, not politically motivated ones.

The provided links contains list of executions in total. So it is not misleading. Its a listing of total executions by the state.

 

[gambit]

The provided links contains list of executions in total. So it is not misleading. Its a listing of total executions by the state.

Of course it is misleading. It does NOT provide the CONTEXT from which those capital punishment sentences were carried out by the US. Context matters. The US does not prescribe capital punishment for being a homosexual, insulting the President, adultery, politics, blasphemy, possession of illegal hallucinogenics and a host of other crimes.

 

[Hussein]

Of course it is misleading. It does NOT provide the CONTEXT from which those capital punishment sentences were carried out by the US. Context matters. The US does not prescribe capital punishment for being a homosexual, insulting the President, adultery, politics, blasphemy, possession of illegal hallucinogenics and a host of other crimes.

you need to click for each country dear Gambit
by clicking i find out your country is the second country for murders
NationMaster - American Crime statistics
i expected you were the first after watching booling for colombine
but strangely when i check "muder with firearms" that they say first
i found out you are only 5th and south africa is much more terrible

 

[waraich66]

actually he's right, and you know it but you're trying to play the whole "polite guest" towards your hosts.

Don't get me wrong, I am 100 percent for executions, but only for certain crimes. Islam however says that Adulterers etc... have to be executed as well and that is what these mullahs are doing. Islam is not exactly a religion that forgives and forgets. That's why Muslim countries have such high execution rates.

I think there should be no execution untill true Democratic Islamic system implemented (Shariah law) .

 

[PlanetWarrior]

With respect to all of its supporters here and to the countries which still implement it, the death penalty is barbaric, outdated and serves no detterent value . It is prone to and has been abused as a political tool by nations which implement it. I notice the irony of support for the death penalty by people who place countries which carry out the death penalty as their country of origin and reside in countries which have abolished the death penalty. Strange comfort for those whom they have left behind in their homeland that they support a repressive system thousands of miles away.

Most of the civilised world have moved onto the much more acceptable system of incarceration for rehabilitative purposes or life imprisonment for those who cannot be rehabilitated. In 2008 the total number of people executed in China was 1718. In Iran it was 346 for the same year. Who is to prove that all of those who were killed by state execution in both countries were guilty beyond any doubt? Who is to prove that none of the crimes were politically motivated?

PS . I used the examples of China and Iran here without intent to single out. India is also implements the death penalty but shamefully there exists no official statistics on the number of people sentenced to death or executed in India in 2008.

 

[Abii]

^^^
there is absolutely nothing wrong with the death penalty. Yeah Iran has a fucked up justice system but death penalty itself is the best punishment for certain crimes. If you're a meance to society, there is no reason for you to continue existing. I don't even care about justice for the family etc...
The punishment for drug smuggling and murder should be death, no exceptions.

 

[CardSharp]

With respect to all of its supporters here and to the countries which still implement it, the death penalty is barbaric, outdated and serves no detterent value . It is prone to and has been abused as a political tool by nations which implement it. I notice the irony of support for the death penalty by people who place countries which carry out the death penalty as their country of origin and reside in countries which have abolished the death penalty. Strange comfort for those whom they have left behind in their homeland that they support a repressive system thousands of miles away.

Most of the civilised world have moved onto the much more acceptable system of incarceration for rehabilitative purposes or life imprisonment for those who cannot be rehabilitated. In 2008 the total number of people executed in China was 1718. In Iran it was 346 for the same year. Who is to prove that all of those who were killed by state execution in both countries were guilty beyond any doubt? Who is to prove that none of the crimes were politically motivated?

PS . I used the examples of China and Iran here without intent to single out. India is also implements the death penalty but shamefully there exists no official statistics on the number of people sentenced to death or executed in India in 2008.

I suppose you are willing to let these men live after what they've done.


AFP: India sentences 11 to death for Godhra train fire

Mumbai gunman to appeal conviction in Supreme Court - CNN.com

 

[BATMAN]

Iran's Islamic regime is a foreign product.
It was engineered to force arabs to buy weapons and security.

 

[justanobserver]

Iran's Islamic regime is a foreign product.
It was engineered to force arabs to buy weapons and security.

What about the Un-Islamic regime of the Shah ?

 

[desioptimist]

I think there should be no execution untill true Democratic Islamic system implemented (Shariah law) .

And then I will start manufacturing special execution stones and get rich. Till then it is my american flag making unit that is going to make money.

 

[below_freezing]

With respect to all of its supporters here and to the countries which still implement it, the death penalty is barbaric, outdated and serves no detterent value . It is prone to and has been abused as a political tool by nations which implement it. I notice the irony of support for the death penalty by people who place countries which carry out the death penalty as their country of origin and reside in countries which have abolished the death penalty. Strange comfort for those whom they have left behind in their homeland that they support a repressive system thousands of miles away.

Most of the civilised world have moved onto the much more acceptable system of incarceration for rehabilitative purposes or life imprisonment for those who cannot be rehabilitated. In 2008 the total number of people executed in China was 1718. In Iran it was 346 for the same year. Who is to prove that all of those who were killed by state execution in both countries were guilty beyond any doubt? Who is to prove that none of the crimes were politically motivated?

PS . I used the examples of China and Iran here without intent to single out. India is also implements the death penalty but shamefully there exists no official statistics on the number of people sentenced to death or executed in India in 2008.

The death penalty may serve no deterrant value for first time offenders but it definitely deters repeat offenders.