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Iran drafts bill to block Hormuz for Persian Gulf oil tankers

hmm.. i think this is either smart.. or very stupid

i think they perhaps will generate a few concessions from the usa etc if they do try to block it..

no country really wants to be seen as starting a war because another country wont let them through its territory

but then again, it will affect the whole world.. so might be a catalyst for war
 
guys just don't feed the troll ....
and we don't need to enter a war , we need to seprates thousands of mines in the sea and then noone dare to enter in the area ...
 
hmm.. i think this is either smart.. or very stupid

i think they perhaps will generate a few concessions from the usa etc if they do try to block it..

no country really wants to be seen as starting a war because another country wont let them through its territory

but then again, it will affect the whole world.. so might be a catalyst for war
It's not about crossing Iran's territory.They are preventing us to sell our oil,the major source of income for the country.
Haven't they actually declared war us?
Imagine of U.S prevented Australia from exporting and importing vital stuff for your economy.What would you do?Would you let their ships to cross your territotial waters,going to US and help them improve their economy while Australia is suffering from sanctions?
I hope my example was clear enough.
 
According to this official source:

EIA's Energy in Brief: How dependent are we on foreign oil?

As of the end of 2011, the USA is importing only 45% of its consumption of crude oil and petroleum products. Of this 45%, 22% comes from the Persian Gulf. So, only 10% of total USA consumption comes from the Persian Gulf. If necessary, this could be easily replaced by other sources, including increased production in Canada and the USA itself. Disruption of Persian Gulf oil shipping is not a real problem for the USA per se. It is only an issue due to the harm to the world economy and our allies. The USA will obliterate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard before it accepts IRG control over Persian Gulf shipping.
 
This would be the worst move Iran can make. Giving a legitimate reason to countries that are looking to attack you to go ahead and do just that.
 
not required move , make them trade with you even more so that dependencies get diverse ,money comes in, u can grow as a nation and be militarily strong, enough to handle a short duration attack at the least.

closing this, even though for us and europe will leave a bad impression and gives more reasons for them to bash you at every possible stage.
 
It's not about crossing Iran's territory.They are preventing us to sell our oil,the major source of income for the country?
Haven't they actually declared war us.
Imagine of U.S prevented Australia from exporting and importing vital stuff for your economy.What would you do?Would you let their ships cross their ships to cross your territotial waters,going to US and help them improve their economy while Australia is suffering from sanctions?
I hope my example was clear enough.

you dont need to tell me about it.. i know all about it and the sanctions that have been placed on iran...

iran could not block the straight if it was not in its territory!... the reason for this legislation that allows them to block any country who has sanctions on it, is not so much tit for tat... and the straight being in its territory plays a big part... this is leverage.. attempted leverage.. the usa will crack a big stink about it.. so will many other countries... iran does not want war from this... they will do this (maybe) for the sole purpose of making a compromised situation, where some sanctions are watered down etc or they could even ask for money to transport it..... but who knows what will happen, it could be catalyst for war.. or it could work in their favor..
 
This would be the worst move Iran can make. Giving a legitimate reason to countries that are looking to attack you to go ahead and do just that.
What else can we do?let them deny us to export even one drop of oil?We don't want this,we don't want to close the strait unless thry make us do that.You know better that your country's sanctions on Iran are illegal and criminal.
 
Iran wont do it for now, its just psychological warfare with West.

However, if all oil exports from Iran is blocked, THEN Iran closes Strait, thats obvious. Remember how US said it was "well worth it" to starve over 500.000 Iraq's kids to death? Iran wont allow that to happen. And if war is coming anyway, its better to happen on Iran's terms, than to wait and get weaker every year, till US with allies attacks weakened country later anyway, like they did with Iraq.
 
Iraq’s Oil Revenues Drop by 17.6% in June

By NASSER KARIMI and RYAN LUCAS, ASSOCIATED PRESS | July 2, 2012 |

(BAGHDAD & TEHRAN, Iran) — Iraq says the country’s oil revenues have dropped by 17.6 percent from May to June due to plummeting oil prices and the diversion of some production to meet domestic needs.

Oil Ministry spokesman Assem Jihad said Monday that Iraq earned $6.453 billion in June compared to $7.831 billion in May.

He said June’s exports averaged 2.403 million barrels a day, down from an average of 2.452 million barrels in May. Domestic demand in Iraq usually increases during the hot summer months, mainly for running private generators.

Iraq holds the world’s fourth largest oil reserves, 143.1 billion barrels. Oil income makes up nearly 95 percent of its budget.

As new European Union sanctions targeting Iran’s vital oil industry took effect Sunday, Tehran acknowledged the measures aimed at reining in its disputed nuclear program were taking a toll. The vice president said authorities had stockpiled imported goods and hard currency to help cushion the blow to the economy.

The ban by the 27-member EU on the purchase of Iranian oil dealt the Islamic Republic its second economic setback in days, following fresh U.S. sanctions that prohibit the world’s banks from completing oil transactions with Iranian banks. Combined, the measures significantly ratchet up the pressure on an Iranian economy already squeezed by previous rounds of sanctions.

“Today, we are facing the heaviest of sanctions, and we ask people to help officials in this battle,” Vice President Mohammad Reza Rahimi was quoted as saying on state television’s website.

He said the “dastardly sanctions” might cause “occasional confusion” in the domestic market. Iran reacted furiously when the U.S. and EU sanctions were announced, threatening to block the strategic Strait of Hormuz, a vital waterway used to ship about one-fifth of the world’s oil. On Sunday Iranian officials appeared to be backing away from that threat, which roiled international oil markets at the time...

Last week, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Iranian crude exports have dropped to 1.5 million barrels a day from 2.5 million barrels last year, which comes out to almost $32 billion in revenue lost over a year.

The Iranian rial has slumped against international currencies, with the unofficial rate spiking at around 21,000 to the dollar this week, up from around 19,000. That’s down from a high of around 23,000 in January, but still far above the rate of around 11,000 about 18 months ago.

The price of staples has skyrocketed as well. Since the EU first announced its embargo in January, Iranian government figures show the prices of bread, milk and meat have risen around 20 percent, while the price of chicken has jumped some 80 percent.

Read more: Iraq’s Oil Revenues Drop by 17.6% in June | World | TIME.com
 
They have been threatening of closing it for like 5 years. They are not brave enough to fulfill their words. Closing this strait will bring this regime down to his doom.
 
They have been threatening of closing it for like 5 years. They are not brave enough to fulfill their words. Closing this strait will bring this regime down to his doom.

actually for 25 years , once we shot every ship in the strait and then it worked , now iran is much stronger ....
 
It's not about crossing Iran's territory.They are preventing us to sell our oil,the major source of income for the country.
Haven't they actually declared war us?
Imagine of U.S prevented Australia from exporting and importing vital stuff for your economy.What would you do?Would you let their ships to cross your territotial waters,going to US and help them improve their economy while Australia is suffering from sanctions?
I hope my example was clear enough.

And Hormoz strait is now within Iran territorial water?!

actually for 25 years , once we shot every ship in the strait and then it worked , now iran is much stronger ....

After two days of sinking few tankers, your navy were wiped out. Afterthen tankers traffic returned to normal.
 
parliament is acting crazy!they hava to gain more experience to get the competency for talking on this kind of issues.

anyway i think it was just a plan to high up oil price.the military drill has the same goal too.
 
This would be the worst move Iran can make. Giving a legitimate reason to countries that are looking to attack you to go ahead and do just that.
can you tell me what's the base of such legitimacy if we say you can't import from our territory and you must find another route .
by the way is there a contract between you and us that say you are allowed to pass through our land .

According to this official source:

EIA's Energy in Brief: How dependent are we on foreign oil?

As of the end of 2011, the USA is importing only 45% of its consumption of crude oil and petroleum products. Of this 45%, 22% comes from the Persian Gulf. So, only 10% of total USA consumption comes from the Persian Gulf. If necessary, this could be easily replaced by other sources, including increased production in Canada and the USA itself. Disruption of Persian Gulf oil shipping is not a real problem for the USA per se. It is only an issue due to the harm to the world economy and our allies. The USA will obliterate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard before it accepts IRG control over Persian Gulf shipping.
that's not the point loss of 10% of import increase the price also EU import more oil from these region and they also must find another sources , south Korea also joined these sanctions and they import nearly all their oil from here. Persian gulf provide 40% of world oil if you loose that the impact would be disastrous for the today's shaking and weak Global economy
 
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