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Iran clarifies Khamenei never linked Kashmir with his call to fight opression & Tyrany in his sermon

It is not something that is of late, it is something that has been showcased as such since inception itself.

The only difference has been the approach is fructifying over the years. India of 1990s was an economically insecure and diplomatically weak nation, present years give out a different picture for apparent reasons.



There has been no 'jumping' on bandwagon overnight. Systematic undermining of the pre-eminent organisation of the day is a time tested strategy, that is in vogue as always. Hence the rise and fall of different organisations.

LeT had established itself as the pre-eminent group, now, HM out of the blue, is reasserting itself. These two organisations have their own inherent differences. The situation is more complicated with advent of wahabi fundings into valley. This has enabled mosques sprouting at every nook and corner, which, admittedly are preaching an anti-India agenda, but are also preaching the rabid interpretations that are more identified with places like Afghanistan and mid-East. These are inherent contradictions within a viable armed struggle.

The fatigue is within the common man on ground. The common man on street is caught in a grinder, a corrupt political setup in the state and separatists (whose near and dear ones are comfortable and who control major businesses in Kashmir, including contractors for the armed forces) and militant groups on other side. It is this man who is the daily wage earner, who is being pushed deeper into despair and penury as strikes leave no business unaffected.

There is no fatigue in IA. The fatigue only exists in this forum. Ground realities are quite different. But IA is not the solution here.

The Leftists are actually killing themselves. They are a minuscule population who gets the bytes but has no bite, so hardly an issue.





Uncle Sam is not invited, that is a sure thing. That is why even the present power set up, is stressing on Shimla Accord only. Even Chinese are not exactly a great idea into this dispute over Kashmir.



I doubt many will find a way into Kashmir save from coming in through LC from your side. And any who do come, will meet their fate here. As for homegrown ones, short life span. The present military strategy of restrained targeting will provide the necessary controls, but then, again, it remains only a stop gap measure.



The ultimate game remains to isolate China into South China Sea in order to establish a status quo there. CPEC allows China an alternate and simply disallows that. Hence, Kashmir is very stupid place for US to bother in. I would always point to Baluchistan area.

My logic, for past 9 months now, remains on Iran as being a target for US. US moves to destabilise Iran, logically go towards Baluchistan-Sistan province of Iran.

Now reading it with Modi's statements over Baluchistan over the last year (rhetoric notwithstanding), one can imagine a convergence of interests here between US and India if Iran follows a policy of supporting Kashmiri movement. That is what my original contention remained.

This combination of US-Indian interest in Baluchistan (including Baluchistan-Sistan region) allows addressing two major interests of US - Iran and CPEC. Two of India also are addressed - CPEC and destabilised Pakistan (I say destabilised as anything more than destabilised aka like Syria will be dangerous for US and Indian interests, so even if India wanted, US will not allow that; so perhaps a level of violence enough to make CPEC unviable/risk prone option yet not enough to allow destruction of host country itself)



I remain a strong proponent of that. Never allow hungry wolves into your pen. :)



I will laugh at this one as I know exactly what level of support Pakistan provides. Been there done that situation for me ;)

I don't hold it against Pakistan, they have to do everything to secure their interests. But then, it is a game two can play :)

I think we can leave this bit to our understandings on this aspect :)





Actually, it makes our job easier ;)


I still believe that it must remain a bilateral issue. The only issue here is both Pakistan and India are being cornered to become proxies which is not very productive.

Uncle Sam need the encirclement of China and south China sea is just one prong of this two pronged effort to force China into submission.

As far as CPEC is concerned it is China's only secure oil supply line which should leave no one in any doubt about China's seriousness.

Iran is tricky. Its isolated facing multiple issues and apart from the rhetoric they really can't back their claims up.

Kashmiris are strong enough with enough representation in every key country and specially Britain who invited them there to somehow delay the issue.

But i would definitely reiterate that currently India has not used her diplomatic potential fully and at a time everyone is being so curiously sensitive in choosing sides, India has chosen going balls deep with America and that is not ideal to say the least.

Regarding the Islamic terrorists well its not going away that easy given the amount of economics behind it and as long as fanatics have hold of key strategic locations namely Iran and Saudis.

Russia's economy needed you the most at this moment in time so I don't know how they will see this.

So you are saying the blacks won American civil war and then they got equal right?

And I am scared coz I don't have some bigot mullahs from Taliban sitting on the buttons of my nuclear arsenal. And not some tom dick and Harry blowing up naval bases to get access to nukes!!

The chain of command ensures that use of nuclear arsenal is a collective effort and not individual.

So you can calm down.

But I can only say although i am not sure if i should say this here.
After 1999 episode it is now certain Pakistan will not go first use on nuclear.

And you can thank Saudi king that he beat some sense into musharaf in 1999. Otherwise it was kaboom.
 
should grill bharoti media
1. It's not BHAROTI but Bharati. Though the right word is Hindustani.
2. Should I consider this intentional provocation?
3. Every time you distort the word Bharat, remember someone out there will be distorting Pakistan's name too.

Here is the correct break up of the population in the Indian controlled areas

Jammu region:

Hindus - 66% (Pro-India)
Muslims - 30% (20% Shias, 10% Sunnis. Both are Pro-India)
Others - 4% (Pro-India)

Ladakh region:

Buddhists - 52 % (Pro-India)
Shias - 45% (Pro-India)
Others - 3 % (Pro-India)

Kashmir region:

Sunni Muslims - 60% (33% Autonomy under India, 18% Pro-India, 6% Pro-Independence, 3% Pro-Pakistan)
Tribes - 20% (Staunchly pro-India tribes likes Gujjars, Bakkarwals, Paharis, Baltis and Shins.)
Hindus/Sikhs - 15% (Pro-India)
Shias - 5% (Pro-India. Declared only. Many Shias declare themselves as Sunnis due to fear)




@Nilgiri @Levina


Bang on!!!

Let ppl know the demography of J&K, this might help silence a few blabberers.


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Khanmenei is a 77year old man, we should cut him a lil slack. This blunder is a clear indication that he needs to be replaced. But are iranians listening?
 
India purchased Iranian oil despite sanctions imposed by US and even when US raised objections. The statement made is for consumption for other countries.

Iran has more economic ties with India than Pakistan. So, forget what he said. They won't leave India as their economic partner who is also developing Ports and Roads in Iran.

So much to get riled up and ecstatic due to this statement. Its for domestic consumption for Pakistan.
 
Uncle Sam need the encirclement of China and south China sea is just one prong of this two pronged effort to force China into submission.
Trump administration cancelled it.
 
Bro,

Trump administration thinks differently than its predecessor in Obama administration. Trump administration doesn't sees a point in containing China through economic measures because trade-offs are not worth it.

Pakistan needs to flex its foreign policy muscle and leverage Trump administration. I hope Nawaz Sharif wakes-up and smells the coffee.
 
Here is the funny bit. Almost no one in Indian Muslim community gives two hoot about opinions of an Iranian ermm..... scholar. The Muslim community mostly gives no support for Kashmiri separatism and independence. Infact, Pakistani folks also do not want Kashmiri to be independent but to join Pakistan. In midst of all of this, no one gives two hoots about Kashmiri independence. These poor souls should either accept Indian rule over Kashmir and move out of Kashmir and live in more peaceful areas of India OR they should leave India all together. They are not going to get any separate Kashmir any time soon. It will be either Indian Kashmir or -- less likely -- Pakistani Occupied Kashmir.

Bro,

Trump administration thinks differently than its predecessor in Obama administration. Trump administration doesn't sees a point in containing China through economic measures because trade-offs are not worth it.

Pakistan needs to flex its foreign policy muscle and leverage Trump administration. I hope Nawaz Sharif wakes-up and smells the coffee.
Errrmm... What leverage does Pakistan have over Trump administration?
 
Bro,

Trump administration thinks differently than its predecessor in Obama administration. Trump administration doesn't sees a point in containing China because trade-off in job opportunities is not worth it.

Pakistan needs to flex its foreign policy muscle and leverage Trump administration. I hope Nawaz Sharif wakes-up and smells the coffee.

We prefer Sattu.

But don't get your hopes up for the administration. Foreign policy is dictated by the state department.

No country gives up long term goals because of an administration change.
 

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