What's new

Iran blames US, UK, Pakistan

yeah and UN is run by Indian stooges. Indians said it and they banned it just like that. India says and the world does it... Right? The proofs already given to Pakistan on which the organizations were banned by the international community. Complete denial mode is something that Pakistan is accustomed with giving protection to Hafeez Saeed on the name of House arrest.

:rofl::rofl:
When i said that, this shows how Obsessed u r, yes we banned them we put him under house arrest, What u ppl expect u say & we do it, We need proof to convict him , provide us with that & stick to one stance, Decide who is the master Mind & say ur PM to decide what he wants to do(HINT:Sharm Al Sheikh)
what 'Denial mode'? U are going to define our destiny & the way we handle our country, Keep ur Ideas to urself...


Who stopped to protect them but that does not mean to bomb the Indian embassy based in Afghanistan as done previously in which the role of ISI is suspected. And the latest bombings though there are no statements for the involvement of Pakistan.

SUSPECTED ROLE, I don't need to say more
 
.
:rofl::rofl:
When i said that, this shows how Obsessed u r, yes we banned them we put him under house arrest, What u ppl expect u say & we do it, We need proof to convict him ,

The same proofs were enough for the international community but Pakistan is something which needs something out of box.
provide us with that & stick to one stance, Decide who is the master Mind & say ur PM to decide what he wants to do(HINT:Sharm Al Sheikh)
what 'Denial mode'? U are going to define our destiny & the way we handle our country, Keep ur Ideas to urself...

Well it was your media which was shouting at the top of voice that proof of Indian involvement is given to India but later Rehman Malik comes on TV and says no such dossier was given to India.

There is always a coarse of investigation where you have your findings. It is not like in a single day an angel comes to you and says that this particular person is involved. There was investigation in the matter and it was found who was the actual culprit.

SUSPECTED ROLE, I don't need to say more
[/quote]

During the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, which was backed by Pakistan, [61] India had supported the opposition Northern Alliance.[62] After the fall of the Taliban in 2001, India opened four consulates in Herat, Mazari Sharif, Kandahar and Jalalabad and backed Hamid Karzai's government. India is Afghanistan's fifth-largest bilateral donor[63] and its growing presence in post-war Afghanistan has caused much concern in Pakistan as it views Indian measures as a threat to its influence in the region.[64][65][66] The President of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, accused Afghan President Hamid Karzai of favoring India.[67] Islamabad has also reportedly accused Indian consulates in Kandahar and Jalalabad of providing arms and money to insurgents in Pakistan's troubled Balochistan region,[68] a claim repeated by Urdu newspapers in Pakistan. Some analysts thus claim that Pakistan had a strong motive to target Indian nationals and their economic projects in Afghanistan.[69]

The statement by Afghan President Hamid Karzai noted that "enemies of Afghan-India ties were behind attack" without clearly specifying which enemies.[70] On 7 July 2008, Afghanistan's Interior Ministry claimed that the attack was carried in collaboration with a "a regional intelligence service"[71] and added that the bombers received training in Pakistan.[72] Afghanistan has in the past blamed Pakistan for various terror incidents on its soil[73] and there have been reports of Afghan officials blaming Pakistan for the attack on the Indian embassy.[74][75] According to the Times of India, Indian intelligence officials suspect that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had a role to play in this attack.[76] Indian security analyst Ajai Sahni of the Institute of Conflict Management alleged that, "the ISI-backed Taliban will not allow any Indian consolidation in Afghanistan, nor will they allow any stability in Kabul."[77]

Denying its involvement in the attacks, a Taliban spokesman said in a statement, "they (India) send secret military experts to Afghanistan and they train [the] Afghan army. Had we carried out the attack, we would have claimed responsibility for it with pride since we have good reasons for it." The Taliban further stated that the attack had its roots in the regional Indo-Pakistan rivalry.[78] On 8 July, Afghanistan stated that it had no doubts that the attack was carried out in collaboration with "foreign intelligence agencies", an implicit reference to Pakistan's ISI.[79] However, Prime minister of Pakistan Yousaf Raza Gillani denied any involvement of ISI in the attack and also remarked that his country had no interest in destabilizing Afghanistan.[80] US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stated, "I haven't seen any evidence or proof that foreign agents were involved" and added that the United States was offering help to Afghan and Indian governments to investigate further.[81]

On 13 July India stated their suspicions about the ISI's involvement in the attack. India’s National Security Advisor M.K. Narayanan said, "We have no doubt that the ISI is behind this." [82]

On 1 August 2008, The New York Times reported that unnamed officials in the United States had confirmed Pakistani involvement in the anti-Indian attack.[83] The newspaper reported allegations that the involvement was based on intercepted communications between Pakistani intelligence officers and the perpetrators before the attack, which, however, were not detailed enough to warn of any specific attack. They want to say that the deputy director of the C.I.A., Stephen R. Kappes, had been ordered to Islamabad before the attack took place. US officials noted that Pakistani involvement in the attack calls into question the reliability of Pakistan as an ally in the American war on terror.[83]. Pakistani foreign ministry spokesman, Mohammed Sadiq, described the report as "total rubbish" and said there was no evidence of ISI involvement. "The foreign newspapers keep writing such things against ISI, and we reject these allegations."[9] An alleged intercepted telephone conversation apparently revealed that ISI agents masterminded the operation. The United States also claimed to have arrested an ISI officer inside Afghanistan. United States President George W. Bush confronted Pakistani prime minister Yusuf Raza Gillani in Washington D.C. with evidence of ISI's involvement in the Kabul attack and warned that in the case of another attack he would have to take "serious action".[84]

On 15 October, both India and Pakistan agreed to continue their dialogue to address all bilateral issues, including cross-border terrorism and ceasefire violations. At the meeting, however, Islamabad denied any role of the ISI in the 7 July bombings of the Indian embassy in Kabul. Pakistan's National Security Advisor Mahmud Ali Durrani said "No No No Incorrect" when asked to comment on reports alleging that ISI masterminded the Kabul blasts. It was also clarified that the Kabul bombings will be discussed in detail at the meeting of the joint anti-terror mechanism later the same month.[85]

On 23 October, it was reported that India had shared sensitive information with Pakistan that pointed towards the ISI's alleged complicity in the embassy bombing as both countries ended a special meeting of their joint-terror mechanism on a "positive" note.
 
.
The same proofs were enough for the international community but Pakistan is something which needs something out of box.

Don't cry ok, i talked about Proof against Hafiz Saeed


Well it was your media which was shouting at the top of voice that proof of Indian involvement is given to India but later Rehman Malik comes on TV and says no such dossier was given to India.

There is always a coarse of investigation where you have your findings. It is not like in a single day an angel comes to you and says that this particular person is involved. There was investigation in the matter and it was found who was the actual culprit.

Media eh?? Indians will tell us about Media...

Course of Investigation?? are u serious, In first Dossier they mentioned that Kasab used a 9mm pistol but the picture of the pistol used by Kasab was not a 9mm it was a Russian TT :rofl:
this is course of investigation?
Once master mind is Lakhvi & now its Hafiz Saeed ,u ppl believe in coursae of investigation then why the hell u people within hours blame everything on Pak
Suppose u found the actual culprit then, where is the proof, there is not enough proof to convict him...


During the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, which was backed by Pakistan, [61] India had supported the opposition Northern Alliance.[62] After the fall of the Taliban in 2001, India opened four consulates in Herat, Mazari Sharif, Kandahar and Jalalabad and backed Hamid Karzai's government. India is Afghanistan's fifth-largest bilateral donor[63] and its growing presence in post-war Afghanistan has caused much concern in Pakistan as it views Indian measures as a threat to its influence in the region.[64][65][66] The President of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, accused Afghan President Hamid Karzai of favoring India.[67] Islamabad has also reportedly accused Indian consulates in Kandahar and Jalalabad of providing arms and money to insurgents in Pakistan's troubled Balochistan region,[68] a claim repeated by Urdu newspapers in Pakistan. Some analysts thus claim that Pakistan had a strong motive to target Indian nationals and their economic projects in Afghanistan.[69]

The statement by Afghan President Hamid Karzai noted that "enemies of Afghan-India ties were behind attack" without clearly specifying which enemies.[70] On 7 July 2008, Afghanistan's Interior Ministry claimed that the attack was carried in collaboration with a "a regional intelligence service"[71] and added that the bombers received training in Pakistan.[72] Afghanistan has in the past blamed Pakistan for various terror incidents on its soil[73] and there have been reports of Afghan officials blaming Pakistan for the attack on the Indian embassy.[74][75] According to the Times of India, Indian intelligence officials suspect that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had a role to play in this attack.[76] Indian security analyst Ajai Sahni of the Institute of Conflict Management alleged that, "the ISI-backed Taliban will not allow any Indian consolidation in Afghanistan, nor will they allow any stability in Kabul."[77]

Denying its involvement in the attacks, a Taliban spokesman said in a statement, "they (India) send secret military experts to Afghanistan and they train [the] Afghan army. Had we carried out the attack, we would have claimed responsibility for it with pride since we have good reasons for it." The Taliban further stated that the attack had its roots in the regional Indo-Pakistan rivalry.[78] On 8 July, Afghanistan stated that it had no doubts that the attack was carried out in collaboration with "foreign intelligence agencies", an implicit reference to Pakistan's ISI.[79] However, Prime minister of Pakistan Yousaf Raza Gillani denied any involvement of ISI in the attack and also remarked that his country had no interest in destabilizing Afghanistan.[80] US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stated, "I haven't seen any evidence or proof that foreign agents were involved" and added that the United States was offering help to Afghan and Indian governments to investigate further.[81]

On 13 July India stated their suspicions about the ISI's involvement in the attack. India’s National Security Advisor M.K. Narayanan said, "We have no doubt that the ISI is behind this." [82]

On 1 August 2008, The New York Times reported that unnamed officials in the United States had confirmed Pakistani involvement in the anti-Indian attack.[83] The newspaper reported allegations that the involvement was based on intercepted communications between Pakistani intelligence officers and the perpetrators before the attack, which, however, were not detailed enough to warn of any specific attack. They want to say that the deputy director of the C.I.A., Stephen R. Kappes, had been ordered to Islamabad before the attack took place. US officials noted that Pakistani involvement in the attack calls into question the reliability of Pakistan as an ally in the American war on terror.[83]. Pakistani foreign ministry spokesman, Mohammed Sadiq, described the report as "total rubbish" and said there was no evidence of ISI involvement. "The foreign newspapers keep writing such things against ISI, and we reject these allegations."[9] An alleged intercepted telephone conversation apparently revealed that ISI agents masterminded the operation. The United States also claimed to have arrested an ISI officer inside Afghanistan. United States President George W. Bush confronted Pakistani prime minister Yusuf Raza Gillani in Washington D.C. with evidence of ISI's involvement in the Kabul attack and warned that in the case of another attack he would have to take "serious action".[84]

On 15 October, both India and Pakistan agreed to continue their dialogue to address all bilateral issues, including cross-border terrorism and ceasefire violations. At the meeting, however, Islamabad denied any role of the ISI in the 7 July bombings of the Indian embassy in Kabul. Pakistan's National Security Advisor Mahmud Ali Durrani said "No No No Incorrect" when asked to comment on reports alleging that ISI masterminded the Kabul blasts. It was also clarified that the Kabul bombings will be discussed in detail at the meeting of the joint anti-terror mechanism later the same month.[85]

On 23 October, it was reported that India had shared sensitive information with Pakistan that pointed towards the ISI's alleged complicity in the embassy bombing as both countries ended a special meeting of their joint-terror mechanism on a "positive" note.

1)Who cares about the Idiot Karzai, he will do what others say him to do, no one gives a **** to karzai...
2)have u people noted that all these consulates are along Pak Afghan border
3)which analysts? those analysts which say that Karachi will become Baghdad or those Indian analysts who write in Indian Defence Review
4)yeah Indians have absolutely no doubt that ur Cat was Killed by ISI
5) F*** the 'unnamed sources' of New York Times, U remember that Harpoon Missile controversy...
6)Do Americans have any other Choice except Pak in WoT? Americans can question our reliability in WoT
7) God knows who are intelligence people who talk on local phones :azn:
8)It ended on 'positive note' :rofl:
9) "In case of another attack there will be a serious action"
BTW didnt u with ur Afghan Stooges blamed recent attacks on ISI
 
Last edited:
.
Don't cry ok, i talked about Proof against Hafiz Saeed

The proofs are given but Pakistan does not accept it when the actual conversation itself is given to Pakistan. No doubt why Pakistan is considered as the safe heaven for terrorists by the world and has newly acquired title of Somalia of Asia. Though it is high time we need to learn from Israels reaction to Munich Incident.


Media eh?? Indians will tell us about Media...

Course of Investigation?? are u serious, In first Dossier they mentioned that Kasab used a 9mm pistol but the picture of the pistol used by Kasab was not a 9mm it was a Russian TT :rofl:
this is course of investigation?
Once master mind is Lakhvi & now its Hafiz Saeed ,u ppl believe in coursae of investigation then why the hell u people within hours blame everything on Pak
Suppose u found the actual culprit then, where is the proof, there is not enough proof to convict him...

If the dossier was so perfect at the first place there was question of providing with the other dossiers. There is always a chance of human mistakes. SO the other dossiers were given to pakistan.

It was media which blamed Pakistan not GOI. Same as your media starting ranting India after attack on cricket team of Sri Lanka.



1)Who cares about the Idiot Karzai, he will do what others say him to do, no one gives a **** to karzai...
2)have u people noted that all these consulates are along Pak Afghan border
3)which analysts? those analysts which say that Karachi will become Baghdad or those Indian analysts who write in Indian Defence Review
4)yeah Indians have absolutely no doubt that ur Cat was Killed by ISI
5) F*** the 'unnamed sources' of New York Times, U remember that Harpoon Missile controversy...
6)Do Americans have any other Choice except Pak in WoT? Americans can question our reliability in WoT
7) God knows who are intelligence people who talk on local phones :azn:
8)It ended on 'positive note' :rofl:

Well it is upto you that you give Fcuk to the head of nation no one can help you with that. Oh you can go ahead and give a fcuk to obama blah blah... who cares for you when you are singled out. :no:

What do you consider is the correct source of information Zaid Hamid. According to you Indian media is biased, western media is biased. Poor Pakistan whole world media is after resource rich Pakistan. :rofl:

Indian cats when they die of ISI at least they have proofs. When Pakistani mice die they just say that RAW killed them nothing more than that.

Americans have actually hired you for WOT. You also dont have any other choice to make. If you dont help them out you yourself are out diplomatically. Do you think there is anyone who is going to support you after that except for China which has more interest in Biz with you rather then help.
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom